<p>I fail to see how posting a video of an IITian given a guest lecture at MIT somehow makes a point. There are people from India who went to much more mediocre universities who also gave lectures at MIT. I suppose someone from MIT would have to go to IIT and teach to somehow establish superiority of some sort.</p>
<p>Not trying to make any point. Was just showing a couple of cookies coming out of IIT. It doesn’t look like they fit the mould spazztastical cast. That’s all. :)</p>
<p>Chubby Cheeks, I do listen a lot music and have a large music collection but does that count for an EC?
I really do not understand the EC criteria!
And moreover, an essay can guarantee admission to stanford? Seriously?</p>
<p>kushal, did you join your school bomb squad? If not, you have blown your chances.</p>
<p>Hiya, two cents from me. I really can’t be bothered at this point to argue against the IITs, but the fact that IITs, whose entrance tests require you to be an absolute genius (by smart work, or sheer hard work) in Maths, Physics and Chemistry, don’t even offer you a Bachelors in these subjects is very disappointing. I’m from Delhi, and I was assuming there were courses available at IIT-D. But among the top IITs, only IIT-Kanpur (correct me if I’m wrong) offers BSc Physics. And as codeguy said, they count for Computer Science for which you don’t even need them. It’s been very very saddening for someone like me, who’s passionate towards Physics and Maths but can’t be arsed to pursue an engineering undergraduate degree, and therefore has to resort to DU as my second option if US fails (I don’t really want to live anywhere else in India but Delhi). Not saying DU is worse off than IIT, (St Stephens, Hindu, Hansraj College are probably better, with a better overall student quality.) but if you consider this fact, it’s a pretty serious paradox.</p>
<p>Hi eminemfan!
I hear what you are saying and it is sad that people who want to study pure math/sci don’t have good options.</p>
<p>PS:
eminemfan, I wish you all the best and I sincerely hope that you get in to a good school.</p>
<p>I fail to understand why ‘passion’ is deemed so necessary. I came across a post claiming something to the effect of “IITians do not have passion and only want money” with its rhetoric implying strong disdain for them. Why? What is so wrong with lack of passion or desire for monetary gain? </p>
<p>Not everyone here in the US is changing the world. We might attend prestigious colleges but we procrastinate on linear algebra problem sets just like everyone else. I have little or no passion for most things. I do enjoy some academic subjects, but working for them never ceases to be a chore. </p>
<p>I am not going to change the world. I might try my hand at entrepreneurship if I ever stumble across a good idea, but that seems improbable. Yes, The Social Network was a good watch, but it’s just as realistic for me as The Dark Knight is. I have no burning desire fueling my every action. The thing I most look forward to everyday is smoking up and listening to music, and that is it. </p>
<p>The type of people you’ll find in IIT Bombay is different from the type of people you’ll find in NUS and the type of people you’ll find in Cornell, different being the operative word. Each has their own unique culture and choosing between them is an inherently subjective decision. You will probably not find the ‘chalta hai, aish karo’ attitude anywhere except the IITs, and that might be a necessity for you to live well. </p>
<p>Or you might enjoy the ‘work hard, play hard’ culture of non-Indian universities more. But keep in mind that although the latter sounds very appealing, it can be quite draining at times. Sometimes you just miss the days of the old when you did not have to attend every class and homework was more infrequent, less mandatory. American culture is very individualistic and that does not work at all for some people. </p>
<p>Pick wisely. To each their own. There’s no absolute right or wrong answer.</p>
<p>^ I like this post a lot. :)</p>
<p>@eminemfan</p>
<p>IITs may not offer you B.Sc physics, but many offer Engg Physics (which at worst is simply an euphemism, or at best a good deal should you wish to branch out). Also, IIRC they offer you M.Sc. Chemistry (a B.Sc in chem/phy is not very popular). Finally some also offer M.Sc. math (and while I am at that, comp sci can sometimes double as a math subject 
Possibly IIT-BHU might also offer science degrees. The JEE exam is used as input to the IISERs or IISc </p>
<p>… but if you restrict your living to Delhi, then yes, you are restricted.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know about the M.Sc. but there’s no way I’m staying in India after my undergrad. Engg Physics is sort of a last resort if all else fails, and I’m pretty sure I will do well in both the JEEs.</p>
<p>Eminem it would be better to decide between colleges when you get an admission letter from them rather than starting this debate again and again which ultimately results in personal bashing.
Also, If you are pretty sure of doing good in JEE’s, and sealing a seat in your choice of branch then it’s no point to discuss this too.</p>
<p>Also I request people not to bump this thread again, as there is no point of debating/comparison unless you have offers from both.</p>
<p>No doubt, Nus is far better than any IIT. In terms of research, faculty and students, NUS is better than IIT. </p>