NYU Law and the LSAT

<p>"Indeed, look at how much NYU relies on the LSAT. The information below represents the LSAT scores for those applicants to NYU recently who had a 3.5 GPA or better. In other words, these are the most promising applicants in terms of their academic performance in college." (Source: Advice</a> for Getting Into Law School - NYU - A must read.) </p>

<p>LSAT Score Percent Admitted
168-180 100%
164-167 99%
160-163 71%
156-159 15%
148-155 12%</p>

<h2> 120-147 4%</h2>

<p>Is this true?! Will a 3.5 and 168 mean automatic acceptance?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>i wouldnt say automatic, but you would have a REALLY GOOD SHOT</p>

<p>SERIOUSLY?! That’s a pretty low standard, imo. I mean their admitted applicant GPA is 3.78 and median LSAT is a 172. So, it just doesn’t add up.</p>

<p>No way that is true since in says 164-167 is 99% and its likely not a single person 164-166 would get accepted even with a 4.0 and not many 167 people get admitted to NYU</p>

<p>Edit: take a quick glance at LSN, there are people with 170+ who got rejected and the only people I saw accepted below 168 3.8 were URM’s.</p>

<p>Goodness gracious no, that’s not remotely true.</p>

<p>Here:
<a href=“http://www.bcgsearch.com/pdf/BCG_Law_School_Guide_2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bcgsearch.com/pdf/BCG_Law_School_Guide_2009.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>25th to 75th Percentile: 169 to 173, 3.54-3.86
Median: 171, 3.7</p>

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<p>I mean, the site’s core argument is right. There’s a threshold above which you have a 95%+ chance of getting into NYU based on numbers alone. But that threshold is FAR above 3.5/168.</p>

<p><a href=“Recently Updated J.D. Profiles | Law School Numbers”>Recently Updated J.D. Profiles | Law School Numbers;

<p>Probably about a 3.6/175.</p>

<p>bluedevilmike is correct.</p>

<p>Whoever wrote that was either completely making things up, or has confused NYU with NYLS. Though for NYLS, some of those acceptance rates are actually too low; last year they admitted 98% of applicants with a 3.5+ and 160-164 LSAT and 96% with a 3.5+ and a 155-159.</p>

<p>My guess is that the data is very very (15+ years?) old.</p>

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<p>Hah first thing I did when I read the post was look at the date to see if this had been some thread bumped up from like 1990’s (I don’t know how old this site it but I doubt it goes back that far).</p>

<p>Ah man, I found that a few months ago and was really excited (my LSAT has potential, but my GPA leaves things to be desired). </p>

<p>Is there any LSAT score that would pretty much guarantee acceptance to a T5 (say a 178+), provided you have a decent GPA?</p>

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<p>It’s going to depend on how bad your GPA is. If its too bad a 180 might not save you. But if its 3.0+ there is a LSAT score out there that will get you into a t14, t5, if you rnot a URM or significant work experience you probably need at least a 3.3 or 3.4. with again an amazing LSAT score.</p>

<p>according to the data, a 3.6 is an absolute requirement to even be seriously considered by a T14… LSAT shouldn’t be lower than a 169.
if you have a 3.6 and can attain a 175+ you’d an EXCELLENT shot at T10-T14 (Lawschoolnumbers.com)</p>

<p>That seems a little pessimistic. A 3.0/172 usually has a very good chance at GULC. Presumably it doesn’t require a 3.6/175 to get into a T14 school generally.</p>

<p>3.0/172?</p>

<p>i suddenly feel very happy with what i’ve achieved so far haha</p>

<p>You’re the one who suggested LSN. Take a look:
[LSN</a> :: Georgetown University - Admissions Graph](<a href=“Recently Updated J.D. Profiles | Law School Numbers”>Stats | Law School Numbers)</p>

<p>Past years have shown for Cornell Law that a 3.7/167 seems to give an applicant a decent chance. </p>

<p>I wouldn’t bet on a 3.0/172 non-URM getting GULC, but it’s certainly not a surprise.</p>

<p>this year at cornell, the 3.7/167 applicant is more likely to be waitlisted. We’ll know in a month or two if these kids are getting off the waitlist or ultimately rejected.</p>

<p>Those were pretty much my kids stats. She did get an acceptance to Cornell, but I think the main thing going for her was that she was a Cornell UG, and I think Cornell likes to give their own UG’s a bit of a boost in admissions. </p>

<p>IMO the 168 /3.5 (as the OP gave as an example) could easily get shut out of a T-14 school this year. GPA’s seem to be climbing up. The 167/168 LSAT applicant seemed most successful for a T-14 admittance with a GPA closer to the 3.8 range. And from what I am observing on LSN, most 167’s/3.8 were waitlisted or shutout of the T-14 schools. And the 168/3.6 are not faring any better. This is what I am observing on LSN this year, following kids who have stats similar to my own d’s.</p>

<p>There may still be alot of waitlist movement, so stats may go down a bit, but from what I am reading on TLS, there doesn’t seem to be too much hope or movement on waitlists. And at best, only a handful of spots may become available.<br>
For the T-6 school, I’d venture to say that you would need to get 170+ on the LSAT (and more likely a 172 with at least 3.6 or higher to feel confident about getting into a T-6 school like NYU). A 169/3.6+ should probably get a nod from a T-14 school or two. But it looks to me that stats needed for a T-14 acceptance this year are pushing upward. The LSN graph for Georgetown indicates that even the 3.5/170 applicant is more likely to get waitlisted at Georgetown than get accepted. I am also taking note that GPA seems to be playing a more important role this year than in past cycles. My hunch is that there really may be more applicants this year, and schools are looking to enroll kids who have shown that they worked hard as UG’s and were able to obtain solid gpa’s. We’ll know more at the end of this cycle, but the upward gpa trend is definitely noticeable. </p>

<p>I don’t know where the OP got those stats re: NYU, but my hunch is that the info is quite outdated.</p>

<p>The website seems uber sketchy. From what I understood it’s supposed to be another means of applying to law school aside from the LSAC by having school “pre-screen” you. Um…odd.</p>

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