@Musktard I’m a student here, and I’m actually indifferent about this school (nor do I care if you come), so I’ll answer your questions pretty straightforwardly.
I haven't met any CEOs of big companies like JP Morgan or whatever, but I have had a class with a Nobel Prize in Economics Nominee (and a Nobel Prize Winner in Economics did come talk to our school, along with Elizabeth Chen, who someone mentioned worked in Goldman Sachs). And besides more "Stern" oriented stuff, I've met Lang Lang (a famous Chinese pianist), the US Ambassador to China, and Harold Koh (former Dean of Yale Law and former Legal Advisor of the Department of State) among other people. But you're right, we don't have as much financial services as Stern. To teach at NYU Shanghai you have to pass the "standard" to teach in New York, so technically we should have the same quality of education as Stern, but I'm not a business student so I wouldn't know.
From what I know about the sophomore class, most students who got into Shanghai also got into the New York campus. A lot of us have never heard back from Abu Dhabi (you can look into that if you want haha). I do understand what you mean about lower SAT scores from the US- while I have met people who had perfect SAT scores, I also met people with below 2000. Contribute that to diversity or I suppose whatever reason that better schools than NYU also take students with lower than 2000 SAT scores. Keep in mind that NYU also takes in other forms of tests besides SATs, so maybe NYU just doesn't care as much? My guess is as good as your's. A lot of people here heard that NYU Shanghai has a lower admissions rate than either campus, but that could be us giving us an ego boost because no official admission statistics has been released publicly.
I have also not applied to Duke or Dartmouth, but I know people who turned down MIT, UChicago, Columbia, Cornell, John Hopkins, UC Berkeley, and yes Duke. But again it's really a personal choice. There are people who chose those schools over NYU Shanghai as well.
As for grading curves, it's really up to the professors, but some classes I've had have curved up.
Comparing NYU Shanghai to Peking University is like comparing whatever school you end up going to with Harvard. Of course most people are going to say the latter. (Although some Chinese kids did turn down Peking for NYU Shanghai.) I can see where you're worried how the "China" factor is going to come into play, but from what I seem to be sensing, a lot of Chinese schools are becoming really interested in this school. Last year I'd have to explain this school on the plane to Shanghai (Chinese people like to ask why I'm going to Shanghai) and now a lot of people just know. I don't know much about China's economy, but if you really want to work in business then you should probably understand Chinese culture and Chinese if possible because China will be (is) an important superpower. Again, I have no bias here (I also do not particularly care for China) but the reality of it is that China is important.
As for internships, keep in mind none of us are upperclassmen, so I’m sorry to disappoint if we don’t have much “brandname” internships among us (not to mention a lot of people just want to go back to their respective countries after a year in China). My boss in Shanghai is really pushing for an internship for me at an investment group in Manhattan, but it’s not Goldman Sachs, so I don’t know if you’d be interested. In all honesty I’m not quite sure what everyone else is up to, you’ll probably have to ask every individual student to find out. You’ll probably get a clearer picture of internship opportunities from Stern students who studied abroad in Shanghai because taking an internship is a part of some of their courses.
Dear all, I am currently a student at NYU Shanghai. I just want to provide some more information. There is no need to argue which one is better, as nobody really knows what NYU Shanghai is now since it’s only almost two years old. And people may say that I come to a school to get good education, not to shape the school culture here, not to sacrifice themselves because the school has to balance students from different education backgrounds so that the curricular design may look not so satisfied for everybody, especially in the first few years. After all, perfectness doesn’t exist anywhere. I know this shouldn’t be used as an excuse. That’s why you will see students at NYU Shanghai pay more attention to their college life here. Take food as an example, the new cafeteria really didn’t know how to satisfy people with so many different tastes at the beginning of last semester. A lot of us gave countless suggestion to our school and now it has been improved a lot. Our school grows at an unbelievable rate everyday because our suggestion is heard. We are kind of both lucky and unlucky to be at a new school. Taking risk is inevitable now.
Also, I asked one of my professors that why did you choose to come here. She said, back in home, everything was stable and safe. She means that generally you have lower risks. But choosing to come here, nothing is set stone and you have to push yourself to shape and do something for this new born baby. I am not encouraging that everybody should take risks and use their 4-year college life to create a new world. I am just saying that the environment here would be more suitable for people who don’t want to only stay in a safety zone, something like good university, good diploma, good resume, good job, everything stable. It’s better for people who try to figure out the sense of their life and to push themselves to the extreme to find out how much potential they have. Of course you can do this anywhere in the world. It’s just NYU Shanghai’s DNA is more like that. I guess Abu Dhabi campus wants the same thing.
Last, I think it would be more objective to let students who have studied away in New York, Abu Dhabi and Shanghai to talk about these 3 campuses. They all have their own DNAs.
The only information I can provide now is what I heard from one of my professors who has taught in all these campuses. He thinks generally students at Shanghai campus work harder than Abu Dhabi. Besides, Shanghai has more resources outside of the campus. One example, you can go travelling around south east Asia, experience different cultures with your college friends.
Again, what I said was just providing some information. Good luck with your decision!
To be honest - I did apply to Dartmouth and I think that in April, I would have chosen Dartmouth if I had gotten in. That being said, I didn’t realize how much more this experience was. It’s a decision you have to make for yourself. I’m so glad I chose NYU Shanghai, most kids here are. Feel free to keep asking questions - our student body is more than happy to answer any questions, as you can tell my the number of kids that responded. Best of luck making your decision!
@alex2213 @88donothing @iappreciatelife Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences at NYU Shanghai with me. It certainly sounds like a unique place but I agree that it is not for everyone (myself included). NYU was one of the lower tier schools I was considering but the prospect of studying in Shanghai was alluring to me. However, @88donothing’s post about NYU Shanghai not being comparable to Peking University really made me think about my college decision. Originally, I had ruled out UPenn Wharton because I simply could not afford to attend (they offered me a negligible amount of financial aid) and I did not want to put myself into an unreasonably large amount of debt. Now, however, I understand that I sincerely do want to go to a school of the highest caliber. I do not want a name on my resume to hold back my career. Thank you so much for helping me figure out what it is I want out of my college experience. My worries about NYU Shanghai really had little to do with the school and more to do with my own idealized college experience.
I deeply appreciate everyone taking the time to reply to my posts and I wish you the best of luck at NYU Shanghai. I don’t know why people in the NY campus look down on your program (there were some comments on the FB page about it) but it seems like the majority of you have thoroughly enjoying your time in China. Ignore them.
I still think that guy was lying about rubbing Lloyd Blankfein’s shoulders though.
@Musktard Hey I’m glad you figured it out You got a ton of great choices, so regardless of whether you choose UPenn or whatever school, you’ll definitely have a school with a name for itself!
I have a few things to say on the matter that may be of import to you in your decision making process. I am currently transferring to NYU New York for multiple reasons, though those are not the ones I’ll get into here.
If you're picking your college experience, and education based solely off "how hard it was to get it" then you're very seriously overlooking a lot of factors that can combine to create a better experience at one university which may not be available to you at another. Each university is unique to the student and provides a different feel. When I first started thinking about college sophomore year, I fell in love with USC on paper. I visited it in April of my junior year and was so perturbed by everything that I left halfway through the tour with my mom. Some schools fit, and others don't. If you're truly curious, come to candidate weekend and see. This decision to affiliate with a school, and its values which it will impart on you no matter what you do, shouldn't just be based on rank.
When applying to NYUSH I was accepted to multiple top 20 institutions, all of which offered me scholarships and opportunities that this school did not. It was not that I was considering rank when I chose to attend NYU over any of those schools because if it were only about rank than I would have gone to Georgetown for instance. Someone commented that this school is very based in experiential learning and I believe that, that is 100% accurate. NYUSH is for a type of student that wants to get a different experience out of their collegiate education, namely that of moving to Shanghai and trying to immerse themselves in a different community. Diversity is truly its greatest asset, and I know I would not have achieved that dream attending NYU New York.
I don't think anybody, even yourself, can attest to the difficulty of admissions at NYU SH because so little data really is available, and if you ask me whether or not the data released is skewed I wouldn't be able to affirm or deny. That being said, I know many of the American students who came here turned down Ivy League institutions, I have never really been disappointed in my classmates' intellects. Certainly at this level of institution you'll be meeting the same students at NYU New York that you will be at Shanghai since most students were accepted to either location.
For business there is no better location than Stern in NYU, and I know many of my classmates do regret not going there instead. That being said, regret is a funny word, one can regret not taking a different opportunity, but had they not gone here they may have regretted it as well. As the first class of NYUSH many of us felt enamored with the opportunity to do something that nobody else had yet, and to be a part of something that hadn't been fleshed out. If these things don't appeal to you, then don't come. Every class is pioneering in their own way.
I'll be leaving for a multitude of reasons, but for me I found that I could not experiment with my academics, or with my interests as often, or as deeply here, and after two years with such a small class size, I found myself fitting in better with people who would come to study abroad here, than I did with my classmates. Which is not to say that I don't value and appreciate them as people, many of them are wonderful and well meaning, just that I had more in common over the last year with my friends who studied in New York, and with the people who visited our campus. Transferring into another NYU school wasn't difficult for me, but I also managed to keep my GPA up freshman year, which if you're taking STEM or are in Business classes can be much more difficult for students. I would advise you not to come if you think that transferring will be a backup route, especially since internal transfers to STERN and TISCH are very difficult in the first place.
I found the nature of your question to be very rude. It was as though you had already made the decision that NYU Shanghai was remedial NYU and are looking for affirmations from students and those around you that, because you're choosing between NYUSH and Stern you've got something over the students who've chosen differently. I think it would serve you well in the future to be less judgmental of different opportunities that may not appeal to you, and of the people who take them. One thing that NYUSH has taught me, which I am uniquely glad for, is that all life paths are different, and every person needs to follow the one that makes them feel most lively at the end of the day. It's easy to forget when applying to college in the same cookie-cutter way that everyone else is, that college needs to be an enriching and individual experience. This all being said, I think you should consider Stern because if you're going to come to a school with such a small class size, and think you're better than everyone there then you're not going to get anything out of it. Keep an open mind.
I’m not proof reading this so excuse my comma placement. I put them in whenever I pause as I write and often forget to remove them after.
Prestige is important to me and it's important to 99% of the users on this website. Unfortunately, we live in a world where college is a system of social meaning as opposed to a means to education. I mean, we are posting on a website dedicated to the college admissions process. College prestige is valuable to me simply because it is valuable to the culture I live in. However, prestige obviously is not the only factor I have considered. If it were, I would have immedietly selected UPenn, Duke, or Dartmouth over NYU in a heartbeat. I don't appreciate you making ridiculous assumptions about me and hastily exclaiming your judgments about these assumptions.
I shared a perception that is held by some of the people on the NYU facebook page as well as my observations from the CC accepted students threads. I never claimed NYU Shanghai is definitively less selective than NYU Stern. In fact, had you taken the time to read the thread before posting, I asked if this was the case. That's the point of asking a question. Sure, I came in with the preconceived notion that Shanghai was less selective than Stern. That doesn't mean I didn't keep an open mind. In fact, my opinion of the college has changed dramatically since talking your classmates. You don't know that because you didn't bother reading the thread. Apparently, you don't know what questions are either. Prejudice exists. Get over it.
I am looking to go into business and I have decided not to attend Stern (or NYU Shanghai for that matter). I already mentioned that my decision not to attend is merely a reflection of my own goals with college. Again, perhaps reading the thread would have done you some good.
I was asking a question. I did not come here to judge the people that are going to NYU and I would appreciate it if you stopped judging me. Believe it or not, but not everyone argues to be right. Some people argue to arrive at a better answer.
I asked a question and held a pre-concieved notion. It's certainly not an uncommon belief (the earliest posts in this thread will demonstrate that). I found the nature of your response to be very rude. It was as though you had replied solely to make remarks about my character. I asked a question about NYU in a forum dedicated to NYU. That does not mean I consider myself better than the people that are attending NYU. Your emphasis on that is extremely offensive to me. Yes, I am perpetuating our society's fetish with college brand names. So what? That's what this entire forum is about. People care about college. I care about college. I asked a question about college. Get over it. I'm not the kid posting in the NYU Class of 2019 Facebook page asking whether I should go to Harvard or NYU. I articulated very legitimate concerns and had a very reasonable discussion with your peers at NYU Shanghai.
@Musktard I left the school before being accepted somewhere else, because I truly hated the school and couldn’t stand another semester. However, I’ve been accepted to some schools for fall semester. I’ve been commenting because I felt that I was given a far too rosy view by current students when I enrolled. You are also correct about it having lower admissions standards(for certain majors, and it’s still certainly not easy to get in), thought that really shouldn’t matter. For the person who said only 4 transfers is negligible, yeah but like half of the science students switched majors.
Hi Musktard and all! I’m a CHINESE student (preparing for Gaokao now) who has been offered conditional admission to NYUSH and previously considered to persue my study in HKUST or FUDAN U in Shanghai. It seems that FEW of you guys here have ever talked about your ideas about your (potential ) Chinese classmates or give your comment about your fellows from CHN Mainland(For those who are studying in NYUSH Now),and I really wants to hear your opinions/questions about us. @Musktard What I can share is that from my points of view ,a large number of students from China in NYUSH(at least this year) is definitely doing well academically than those Chinese student you may come across in Stern or other Non-Ivy school regarding their Science Foundation or Quantitive skills. I myself is studying in the top High school in one of southern Province of China. My classmate who share similar exam scores with me in Senior 1 turned to applying for US University and has been admitted by U Mich, UCB and Brown. A student who always performed better than me was admitted by Oxford (Math major),and some of my friends who found difficulties in preparing Gaokao got admission from CMU or Rice.(I don’t mean to show any kind of prejudice but just to tell the truth).Also, one of my friend ranked about 10000th in our province last year’s Gaokao but successfully transferred to NYU NY. and you know that the average of us admitted by NYSH can rank about top 1000th or 500th in our province.In a word,I think Chinese students here perform better than those NYU NY Chinese students, and some of us even has better academic foundation than those Chinese undergraduate in Ivy lIke U Penn, Yale, Princeton. Just to share my information with you ,and I really looking forward to have your reply or your question/oponions about us the CHN mainland students.
@HQBaseus What’s more is you need to learn English or at least have someone fluent edit your post before submitting it. You are making NYUSH that much less attractive for American and international students when they realize half of their classmates will talk like you or worse.
Aha @SHcrusher thanks for your frank advice and I shall apologize for my terrible gramma. To be honest I just got its SECOND-grade admission,which means that I have to struggle for a ultimately high score in exam for OFFICIAL Enrollment in comparison with my talented fellows who only need to reach Tier1 score(maybe my poor writing should be to blame for it sigh ). Anyway another thing interests me is your natural-born scepticism towards this school (your screen name implys that).Are you a NYU NYC students ,a SH/AD students or just considering this school like me now ?Can you share me your thought about this school as an “international"student”?(its pullback, its advantages, etc.)You know in China most of our people think highly of it,considering it as a revolution in China’s education,hence SELDOM can I get negative comment towards it. I am really looking forward to your reply and maybe your opinion can help me seriously re-consider my offer from a more holistic perspective(as a lower-class tier 2 student, no compulsory enrollment is the only privilege I have haha). Nevertheless,I still crazily wanted to get a true admission up to now only in a worry of whether they would accept me or not.Maybe you (as well as others)can give me your frank and genuine thought.
For 2017 class, NYU Abu Dhabi SAT 25%-75% was 1477 while NYU SH was 1413. For comparison, NYU-regular was about 1200 while Princeton was 1506, Cornell 1420. I have been involved in admission process and been there twice. It is way more competitive than regular NYU and also, way more generous in awarding Financial Aid.
Hi,
I’m also a current NYU Shanghai student, and I’m trying to transfer to College of Arts and Science. I’m curious what kind of GPA level do I have to hit in order to be competitive for transferring? Do you think a 3.6 would be sufficient for CAS in New York? Thank you!
You got a ton of great choices, so regardless of whether you choose UPenn or whatever school, you’ll definitely have a school with a name for itself!
). Anyway another thing interests me is your natural-born scepticism towards this school (your screen name implys that).Are you a NYU NYC students ,a SH/AD students or just considering this school like me now ?Can you share me your thought about this school as an “international"student”?(its pullback, its advantages, etc.)You know in China most of our people think highly of it,considering it as a revolution in China’s education,hence SELDOM can I get negative comment towards it. I am really looking forward to your reply and maybe your opinion can help me seriously re-consider my offer from a more holistic perspective(as a lower-class tier 2 student, no compulsory enrollment is the only privilege I have haha). Nevertheless,I still crazily wanted to get a true admission up to now only in a worry of whether they would accept me or not.Maybe you (as well as others)can give me your frank and genuine thought.