NYU (Stern) and University of Michigan - Chances?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>My Stats:</p>

<p>School: Upstate New York Public (One of the top arts/music programs in the nation)
Ethnicity: Asian American
GPA: 3.65 Weighted
Class Rank: Top 25%
4 APs (Not the Most demanding, but a strong core curriculum)</p>

<p>SAT I: 1510 (Math - 710, Verbal - 800)
SAT II: Math IC - 720, Writing - 710, Biology - 690</p>

<p>Teacher Recommendations: Very Good
Essays: Very Good</p>

<p>Extracurricular Activities:
Hochstein Youth Symphony Orchestra - Third Stand
Rochester Korean United Methodist Church Orchestra - Concertmaster
All-State/All-County Orchestra - Second Stand
Varsity/JV Tennis
Rochester All-Nations Church Praise Band - Leader/Guitar
Penfield/Harris FIRST Robotics Club - Team Leader
Model United Nations
PC Repair Technician</p>

<p>Work Experience:
Cashier at Beauty Supply Warehouse - Summer 2002-2004 - 40 hours/week</p>

<p>If possible, I would like to know stats of people that got into any of these schools this year.</p>

<p>How much will sending these scores in late affect my chances?</p>

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<p>Your GPA is on the low side, but your SAT is good. You have a good chance at both Michigan and Stern.</p>

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<p>You shouldn't have a problem getting into Michigan or NYU. But you'll be in for sure at Michigan.</p>

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<p>you have a good chance at stern.....your rank will hurt a little tho</p>

<p>my stats are almost the same as yours...same sat, gpa, but i was top 5%</p>

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<p>Why didn't you try for Wharton.</p>

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<p>Wharton is the same as Stern but just an older school. No difference in academics. Stern has NYC.</p>

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<p>very true, even if i got into both, i would pic stern over wharton just because nyc.</p>

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<p>Wharton is better than Stern in terms of prestige and academics; would you like me to bring up the rankings?</p>

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<p>Yes, USNEWS is a great benchmark for a school's quality since it bases rankings on purely academic factors (in case you can't tell I am being sarcastic). If you take a look, the average gpa and SAT is almost the same at both schools. I doubt the quality of profs and academics is different either. But you can act like a prestige whore and show me the USNEWs rankings, the same people who put WUSTL in the top 10. And as an actual graduate, I can attest to my belief that any difference between the 2 schools is minimal. In addittion, my friends who did well got the jobs they wanted, so feel free to pull out all the rankings you want.</p>

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<p>Wow. And you're not biased?</p>

<p>If you want to pull facts to refute USNEWS at least don't spout lies. I believe that WUSTL is not in the top ten. No way. </p>

<p>Even if the rankings aren't completely accurate, the top five schools are in order:</p>

<p>Wharton, Sloan, then Haas and Michigan Ann-Arbor. NYU rounds out the top five.</p>

<p>I admit Sloan is a decent business school and has strategic importance due to its location, but Wharton is clearly recognized throughout America as the superior undergrad school.</p>

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<p>As a graduate I think I am in a good position to describe the schools. None of my friends had trouble getting jobs, and Stern and Wharton are recognized as having two of the best finance programs in the world, which is the one field in business that really matters. Employers also tend to put Stern at #2, right behind Wharton and almost no one mentions Haas. Last, like I said, quality of student body is virtually the same, so I don't see what your point is.</p>

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<p>I have no beef with you, but simply with the fact that you implied that Stern is on the same level as Wharton.</p>

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Employers also tend to put Stern at #2, right behind Wharton

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<p>Nuff said.</p>

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<p>im glad you guys are giving me a vote of confidence, but will my weak EC's and sending admissions late affect anything?</p>

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<p>In the case of Michigan, what may hurt you is your GPA and your class rank. Close to 100% of Michigan's out-of-state LSA students graduate with GPAs over 3.6 (unweighed, Michigan does not look at weighed GPAs) and a top 10% class rank. But your SAT is good, so I think you will make up for it. Michigan is more selective than NYU, but Stern is more selective than Michigan LSA. So it is hard to tell how your GPA will affect your chances at Stern. </p>

<p>As for your ECs, they may be weak to other schools but Michigan loves music ECs. So you are actually in good shape.</p>

<p>A word of caution, you will have to maintain a 3.4+ GPA at Michigan to have a chance at Michigan's Business school...and a 3.4 at Michigan is difficult to maintain. If you want a good chance of getting into the program, you will ned at least a 3.7 GPA at Michigan...and that is really very difficult to maintain. </p>

<p>I agree with DUSKSTAMPER, Wharton is the best undergraduate Business program in the nation. NYU is good but not great. The only reason why NYU scratches the top 5 in the USNWR undergraduate Business rankings is because many top Business schools (Harvard, Northwestern, Stanford, Chicago, Columbia, Dartmouth and Duke to name a few) do not offer undergraduate Business programs. For this reason, in the Business World, NYU is not considered in the same plain of existance as Wharton. However, if you are interested in Finance and wish to work on Wall Street, Wharton is only slightly better than Stern.</p>

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<p>Sorry to break it to you but Stern is regarded as one of the best schools in the nation regardless of what you say.</p>

<p>"NYU is good but not great."</p>

<p>Wow. It has arguably the best finance program in the world, and this is what matters to me.</p>

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<p>Nyusternman, Alexandre and I did not say that Stern is not "one of the best schools in the nation". We simply said that schools like Ross, Sloan, and Wharton are better than Stern. </p>

<p>However, Stern's strength is Finance. It has the second best finance program in the nation (doubtlessly, due to its proximity to Wall Street). I and I believe that almost everyone in the world will agree.</p>

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<p>Nobody here questions that NYU is a good Business school (on par with the UNCs, UCLAs, Carnegie Mellons etc...) or that Stern has one of the best finance departments in the World. But if you think that Stern and Wharton are perched on the same plateau, you are mistaken.</p>

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<p>on par with the UNCs, UCLAs, Carnegie Mellons etc...) </p>

<p>HAHAHAHA. It is on par with the elite schools, not UCLA,etc. I just checked FT online and Stern is 7 in the world according to them. Stern is viewed the same as Ross and Sloan, etc. Grads certainly have very little trouble landing jobs. From what I recall, the only thing holding Stern back from consistently being ranked highest is alumni connections and student reviews, and not actual academics and quality of student body.</p>

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<p>oh my god you guys have been fighting in my thread for SOOO LONG!</p>

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<p>Here is the breakdown guys:</p>

<p>My friend got into Stern... he was class rank 44/340. GPA: 3.6 SAT: 1380, almost no extracurriculars, minimal APs... etc.</p>

<p>My other friend got REJECTED from Wharton: 2/340, 4.23, 1590, AMAZING EXTRACURRICULARS (seriously...he did A LOT), 15+ APS </p>

<p>He then got a full scholarship to Stern.</p>

<p>Stern is nowhere near as good as Wharton. Wharton = Mt. Everest. Stern = Mt. McKinley. Both mountains, BIG DIFFERNCE.</p>