NYU vs Dartmouth for Economics Major?

<p>Which school do you think has a better economics program? Small class sizes and professor student interaction is important to me but NYU Stern is supposedly one of the best undergraduate business programs in the nation, and sadly prestige is also important to me.</p>

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<p>Not to say that Dartmouth isn't prestigious of course. Just that I'm not sure that it has a particularly exceptional economics program. </p>

<p>I like both the natural beauty of Hanover and the vibrant city life of New York, so location isn't an issue for me.</p>

<p>1) Stop being a prestige whore. (sorry, didn’t really mean to offend you; I was just trying to get a point across)</p>

<p>2) I would venture to say that D has a better econ program.</p>

<p>3) Better job prospects (D)</p>

<p>4) Highest median salary out of all US schools. (D)</p>

<p>Eh NYU vs. Dartmouth in prestige?</p>

<p>You should be able to answer that one yourself. Where do the big four recruit out of most? Ivy League institutions.</p>

<p>^Again, I urge you guys to stop talking about prestige. Come on, Jersey13, you’re smarter than that. </p>

<p>You can just say this instead… Wall streeters and the like prefer D.</p>

<p>NYU Stern is ranked as the #5 undergraduate program in the nation (the overall university is #50 something), while Dartmouth is #11 overall, so I’m not sure about Dartmouth having a more prestigious economics program.</p>

<p>Who cares about the rankings when Dartmouth clearly has an edge (Salaries, recruiting, etc.)?</p>

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<p>Are the statistics for Dartmouth’s “edge” program specific? Because otherwise it may not reflect upon the strength of a specific program/department.</p>

<p>Don’t be a smartass. And yes, Dartmouth grads are the highest paid in the US (statistics for you). You seem like you already prefer NYU… just go there. You will, by all means, get an excellent education, still. </p>

<p>You asked for answers and got them. And then you chose to dispute them.</p>

<p>I’m not trying to be a smartass. </p>

<p>I asked for opinions, and I’m grateful for all that I’ve received, but by no means does that mean I will take every opinion given to me as fact. Sorry if you were offended. </p>

<p>And I also don’t prefer NYU, I really am torn between the two, although I have to say the feedback from this thread is making me lean towards Dartmouth.</p>

<p>You need to realise, though, that these are two completely different schools. At Dartmouth you would probably get a better “college experience” so to speak. NYU doesn’t have a campus. Also, the social scene at Dartmouth is known to be amazing… Besides, if you do end up at D, chances are you will become a New Yorker after you graduate anyway; assuming you take the Ibankers route.</p>

<p>I see, do you know about how large on average the class sizes are at Dartmouth, or anything about internship opportunities (I know this is getting off-topic). Any internships I take would probably not be in Hanover right?</p>

<p>I am not a Dartmouth student (yet?), but I am, however, under the impression that most interns at Ibanks are there at the end of their Sophomore and/or Junior years. With acceptable GPAs, of course (maybe 3.3-4.0)</p>

<p>Dartmouth easily has some of the best recruiting in the country, probably top 5-7 among all schools regardless of program or major. Its a little complex. For the liberal arts schools (Harvard, Princeton, Dartmouth, Columbia, Stanford) banks and consulting firms don’t care about individual program rankings (like econ dept rank), they are looking for overall institutional prestige. Its only at the business school level that they care, and in my experience, after the first 3-5 business schools they don’t even care that much for BBAs in general (would prefer and econ degree from an Ivy type school). Here’s some info on Dartmouth banking.</p>

<p>[Ivy</a> Leaguers’ Big Edge: Starting Pay - WSJ.com](<a href=“Ivy Leaguers' Big Edge: Starting Pay - WSJ”>Ivy Leaguers' Big Edge: Starting Pay - WSJ)</p>

<p>[Dartmouth:</a> A Good Week for the Unsung Ivy of Financial Connections - Deal Journal - WSJ](<a href=“Dartmouth: A Good Week for the Unsung Ivy of Financial Connections - WSJ”>Dartmouth: A Good Week for the Unsung Ivy of Financial Connections - WSJ)</p>

<p>[2007</a> list of BB Summer Associate class by colleges | WallStreetOasis.com](<a href=“http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/2007-list-of-bb-summer-associate-class-by-colleges]2007”>2007 list of BB Summer Associate class by colleges | Wall Street Oasis)</p>

<p>[Private Equity Firms & Universities: What’s the Relationship? | BankersBall. Where Investment Bankers Come to Party. Investment Banking Compensation & Salary](<a href=“Bankers Ball”>Bankers Ball)</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/235587-consulting-core-schools.html?highlight=consulting+core[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/235587-consulting-core-schools.html?highlight=consulting+core&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I commend you ^</p>

<p>…is this even a question?</p>

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<p>First of all you are mixing lists. NYU Stern is ranked # 5 for Best Undergraduate Business programs. Dartmouth does not have a business program at the undergrad level. If you are ranking on the National University list, Dartmouth is ranked # 11 and NYU is ranked # 32.</p>

<p>The schools are as different as night and day to one another (I know both schools; me 2 Grad degrees from NYU, D a Dartmouth grad) and you will have a different educational experience at each one.</p>

<p>To add on to Slipper’s post, Economics along with government are 2 of the most popular majors at Dartmouth. Yes you will be able to get some amazing internships through resume drop, for on campus recruiting. Almost every single one of my D’s econ friends are working in either IB or consulting (a couple went straight on to grad school). </p>

<p>They had internships under their belts, along with study abroad. One friend in a study abroad in Spain, a term at Oxford, internships and is now working for Bain. From her class, she has friends working for Bridgewater, Google, Goldman, McKinsey, and other top banks. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.dartmouth.edu/~csrc/pdfs/08stats.pdf[/url]”>http://www.dartmouth.edu/~csrc/pdfs/08stats.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If I had a complaint as a parent, it would be that most of internships are geared toward IB/consulting but students who are not interested in going down that career track still manage to get things done.</p>

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<p>Yes you are right about that.</p>

<p>“NYU Stern is supposedly one of the best undergraduate business programs in the nation”</p>

<p>Another factor to consider: </p>

<p>NYU does not guarantee 100% of financial need. Every March and April, there are many threads on CC about students accepted to NYU, who can’t afford to attend because of the horrendous FA package they received. On the other hand, Dartmouth guarantees one hundred percent of need. So, unless your family can afford to pay full-fare at NYU – as a future business student – you may want to consider looking beyond prestige.</p>

<p>^I get what you’re trying to say, but it still doesn’t make sense. Although I hate the very notion of “college prestige”, Dartmouth is considered by most to be the most prestigious of the two institutions.</p>

<p>Has OP even been accepted to both schools? This conversation could be a moot point if he is not accepted to Dartmouth. </p>

<p>I think right now everything is just speculative and OP should wait until he has actual offer letters/financial aid awards in hand.</p>

<p>Then OP should visit both schools, sit in on a class then if $$ is no object, see which school best suits his needs.</p>