Observation

<p>I hope everyone is not freaking out like I am about ED (I did to the college) but I have just one comment about the threads on this board. </p>

<p>I really don’t understand why anybody here thinks that posting all of your stats and asking other people what they think your chances are at getting in to these schools is justifiable in the least. Think about it. You are asking other students (I don’t think there are any people from the admissions committee on this board) for their opinions about whether or not you could get in. Not to be condescending, but you might as well ask a 3 year old this same question and hear what they say. To a school like this anything is luck. I think it is a waste to start retaking all of your tests 1000 more times when the majority of you already have SAT IIs in the 700s and SAT Is above 2100. You all have more ECs than anybody should have. I think the one thing that these comments say about people on this board is that they are not confident enough with themselves. If you applied early, just be confident that you gave the application your best shot and if Penn defers or rejects you, you gave it your best effort and that it is Penn’s loss for not accepting you. If people on this board knew what stats and what “right” combination of SAT scores, ECs, and grades were then they would get those “right” combinations themselves and not need to be on this board in the first place.</p>

<p>So I guess what I am trying to say is if YOU think you could apply and have a good shot, APPLY. If someone on this board tells you that “O. you have a less than 5% chance because you need to raise your SATs from a 2300 to a 2350” or “your editor-in-chief position, 3 season varsity athelete, etc. is not good enough” that is ridiculous. You have as good a shot as anybody else. </p>

<p>Good luck to all EDers in the next 2 weeks.</p>

<p>Yeah, I agree that you shouldn't base your decision to apply to a college based on some comments from clueless adolescents who are all overachievers. If you really want to go to the school, you should apply because you really never know if you could get in...and that feeling of "what if" will tear you apart. </p>

<p>Some people who post their stats are confident that they will be accepted into the school and simply want affirmation of their godliness. Some people make up their stats. Some people want to narrow their college list down and want ANYONE to just give them advice (even if it's from clueless young people). Welcome to CC.</p>

<p>yeah if someone says your 3.7 is low.....who cares.....people would kill for that grade. some of my friends and people i know....just cannot get a 3.0, i dont call them dumb or not worthy of a college...they have an equal shot as some of you with your #1 rank, etc. and those who say their class rank is low because theyre 20/100.....who cares...thats good as hell in my opinion.</p>

<p>One of the biggest problem with "chances" threads is that ppl don't know what your high school profile is. All GPAs are not created equally. An uber competitive school may have a 3.5 unweighted GPA equal to top 5% in the class. If you go to a HS where one or two kids(# 1 or 2 in the class) on average are accepted each year versus one where ten or more are accepted every year, that makes a big difference too.</p>

<pre><code> Rather than relying on chances threads ppl should go into their HS guidance office and ask for the records for the past few years. These are supposed to be made available, even though many kids don't know they can ask for this. The list doesn't give names, but shows GPA and SAT scores for each candidate, and then whether accepted, deferred or denied. In that case, stats plus high school track record can give you more of an idea where you stand.
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<p>Not all schools keep these records. I know my daughter's school doesn't (I asked). My large public high school did and would distribute them to seniors every year. If your school does have one, it can be a very good resource.</p>

<p>my school has one on tcci....avg gpa accepted is a 3.6 with a 1320</p>