Off topic discussion on Carlson

<p>(the censored word is d-o-u-c-h-e)
Today I ran into these definitions when surfing the Internet. On Urbandictionary, one of them defines "<strong><em>bag" as:
"A student or instructor at the Carlson School of Management at the University of Minnesota Twin Cities."
and gives this example as well:
"Only a *</em></strong><strong>bag would consider accounting a tough class."
(<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term="&gt;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong>
*bag)</p>

<p>Also, on the term "Carlson School of Management", they also have this definition:
"A second-tier business school at the University of Minnesota where second-tier <strong><em>bags acts as if a 28 score on their ACTs and a B+ in their joke of a Marketing class makes them special. Graduates work in second-tier positions in second-tier companies and uses *</em></strong>* words, such as "leverage" or "collateral", to hide the fact that they're not as smart as they think they are."
(<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Carlson+School+of+Management%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Carlson+School+of+Management&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p>

<p>Let me put this straightly, as a prospective freshman at Carlson, I was deeply infuriated when I came across these. As they specifically attack Carlson and Carlson people, I wonder what Carlson has done to deserve such criticism. As far as I know, big research university, beautiful campus, hard-working students and highly-ranked management school. I am proud that I got accepted into Carlson, but these words ruined my mood. If these are inside jokes, then I don't get any of them. I like Carlson, but not so much the fact that I may be called a "******bag" if I go there. No, just no.</p>

<p>So please, Carlson residents, let me know what is wrong with this school and its people, because I don't want to believe a bit of what I've come to know, and I plan to go there this fall. I'd really love to.</p>

<p>I have a few friends in CSE/CBS and they’ve had nothing nice to say about CSOM students, either. I’ve been told it’s because they like to complain a lot, but it’s probably just moreso in the culture.</p>

<p>¯_(ツ)_/¯</p>

<p>Thank you for your response. So your friends said the reason why people hate on Carlson is that Carlson students complain a lot? That would be confusing to me.
What do they complain about? And what does that have to do with other schools’ students?
I truly wonder who the starters of those definitions are. May they be Carlson students, those from other schools of UMN or those from other universities?
In my opinion, they imply that Carlson people are superficial and mediocre. To what extent could this stereotype be accurate? I myself have some friends there, and they’re very nice and hard-working. They actually get high SAT scores and high GPA at school, so I am pretty sure they are as smart as, if not far smarter than, those posters.
Yeah and I really appreciate some words from Minnesotans, who will become my friends in the next four years.</p>

<p>Don’t take it personally, if you have a Facebook page join the “University of Minnesota Memes” page. Kids from different colleges are always makingfun of each other, and it’s probably just some friendly rivalry. CLA kids make fun of CBS kids for always bragging about becoming a doctor, and the Carlson kids make fun of CLA saying they will never get a job, etc. etc. It’s all in good fun I think. The entire university makes fun of Madison though haha, so don’t worry about it too much :D</p>

<p>I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Other people’s perception of the school does not affect the quality of the school.</p>

<p>Given the comment “Only a ******bag would consider accounting a tough class,” I think I know where some of the hate towards Carlson is coming from. I feel it’s fair to say that students pursuing a hard science, engineering, or math are going to be better at math than a business major. This obviously isn’t all inclusive and I don’t have any numbers to back it up, but it seems to make sense. If CSOM students complain about some class or field that their peers would find easy, perhaps one like accounting, it would seem like they “complain a lot.”</p>

<p>I imagine the same thing would happen if I, someone who is really bad at English (and will be attending the CSE), complained about an English class to some English major from the CLA.</p>

<p>Then again, this is all just conjecture that really doesn’t matter.</p>

<p>If alerted, I would hope Urban Dictionary would edit that definition. Who ever wrote that has maturity issues.</p>

<p>Just as an FYI - there are many people who consider consider any type of business major to be a waste of time, a major filled with losers and less challenging than english, philosophy or even art/theater. Ignore all of them and follow your own path. </p>

<p>Carlson has a great program with tremendous access to industry leaders.</p>

<p>And after graduation we call those English and philosophy majors barista and tip them well from our nice jobs with “second tier” companies. Better that than $9.00/hr plus tips and no benefits. In MBA school many eng undergrads had problems with the classes that required more thinking and strategy than math/eng problems that have one right answer. They did not rule in MBA school.</p>

<p>My bro graduated from Carlson and makes bank, so forget those idiots’ (pathetic) talking trash.</p>

<p>I get your opinions. So I think you guys mean those are just comments from other schools within the U, not from other universities? Could you provide me with any information about Carlson’s impression on other people, such as employers or local people? I’m just curious about this because those remarks seem hateful. I would also appreciate it if you could let me know about Carlson’s international reputation, because I come from an Asian country.</p>

<p>First of all, why on earth would you listen to anything urbandictionary says? I doubt they have one definition that isn’t offensive. Ignore any hateful and stop worrying about what other people think. You can google the answers to the rest of your questions.</p>

<p>Yeah I realize my worries have come redundant here on CC. I just wanted to have a better picture of the U when I started this thread because I’ve never got a chance to visit the campus. Just curious, is any of you guys going to Carlson this fall?</p>

<p>The definition of the other colleges hates on Carlson too.</p>

<p>CBS definition:
A college within the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities. Aside from what Carlson School of Management students may think, CBS is the most competitive college at the U of MN. We cure diseases and transfer genes each and every day. Enough said!
The smartest students attend the College of Biological Sciences (CBS).</p>

<p>CSE definition:
A college of the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities which is the only university branch worth attending. Contrasted with the Carlson School of Management and the College of Liberal Arts, the College of Science and Engineering (CSE) is populated by people who don’t deserve to be kicked in the balls (Carlson students do; CLA students have none to be kicked). Most CSE students could kick your ass in any academic endeavor, and they’d be willing to prove it.
Carlson student: “I see by your intact testicles that you attend the College of Science and Engineering!”</p>

<p>CSE student: “Why thank you, Carlson student! Now stand still with your feet four feet apart.”</p>

<p>CLA Definition:
A college at the University of Minnesota who in the hierarchy of the individual colleges is just above the Carlson School of Management, putting them as the second worst college in the nation.
A student in CLA could state, “I am slightly less of a ******bag then a Carlson student, only slightly”</p>

<p>I don’t see the point in these egotistical definitions, just makes the U look worse.</p>

<p>personally I think the definitions are hilarious. They’re just inter-college rivalries, which exist almost everywhere. Nothing to worry about.</p>

<p>What about opinions from other universities on Carlson?</p>

<p>I’m currently in my first year at the U of MN, and everyone hates Carlson because a lot of the students are spoiled brats that like to pretend they work hard. Like half the class go and rant about how much money they’re going to make and how impressive their 30 on the ACT was, paid for by their mommies and daddies who are major players in various companies. Then they only go to class like twice and week and make sure everyone knows that they think Carlson is the most exclusive college and that their work is actually difficult compared to the CBS and CSE.</p>

<p>Never tell anyone you’re going to Carlson.</p>

<p>@CSEStudent, I suppose almost everything in your post is right. You’re already a student of the U and you have every right to state your opinions about anything within it. However, in my humble opinion, your last line sounds unnecessarily judgmental.</p>

<p>“Never tell anyone you’re going to Carlson.”</p>

<p>I see how I’ve already been and will be stereotyped. Fortunately, I can do without stereotypes and opinions from those who believe in them. I know slightly better than that.</p>

<p>There’s a joke that goes around campus:</p>

<p>“How do you know if someone is in CSOM?” - They told you.</p>

<p>They tend to embellish their CSOM status and they make it known. CSOM is the only college besides CSE that makes apparel specific to their college, and I see it a lot.</p>

<p>I find that most of the CSOM kids I meet have a pretty evident sense of entitlement and a massive delusion of grandeur. Now that I think of it, I don’t think I’ve actually liked anyone I met from there. Then again, it’s a small school and if you’re not a business major you won’t be running into many people associated with it.</p>

<p>Nonetheless it’s a great program with great resources, opportunities, and professors. Don’t let a dumb definition from urbandictionary hold you back from attending.</p>

<p>Thank you, RadicalCar. That was objective.</p>

<p>On a separate not, can someone explain the “Carlson Curve”?</p>