Official AP Euro '11 Thread

Hey guys I got a couple questions</p>

What books should I use to review for the AP Test ? People recommend me the Barron’s or Princeton’s.</p>

And what is the score range to get a 5 or a 4 on the MC ?</p>

Thanks !</p>

^^For Euro, you need to group the docs and analyze POV. For USH, you bring in outside into. Euro has a rigid rubrik, while APUSH does not.</p>

HERE IS HOW TO MASTER THE EURO DBQ</p>

It is VERY simple, once you know what to do and take a practice run or two. The maximum points that you can get is 9. You need to know absolutely no outside information, just how to manipulate what they give you. The scoring system is a bit weird: The first six points that you can get are based off of six pre-reqs *which I will explain in a little bit. If you get ALL of those six points ticked off, then the “gate” opens and you can get the last three remaining “bonus” points. </p>

Here is how to get the first six points: They are 1) Thesis, 2) Use the majority of the documents, 3) Answer the question, 4) Understand the documents and the question, 5) POV’s, 6) Grouping. These six are all very simple to get.</p>

  1. Thesis: same as any other thesis that you should write. Make sure you answer all parts of the question, and section it off into different overarching ideas and body topics that you address in detail with facts in the body paragraphs.
  2. Majority: All that you have to use is a simple majority to gain this point.
  3. Question: Literally address the question and ANSWER it. This answer should be seen in the thesis. Not a hard point to gain at all. Your answer doesn’t even have to be RIGHT, you just have to answer and back it up.
  4. Understanding: Very, very simple. When you talk about the documents you just have to sound like you’re actually looking at the same document–I’ve never NOT gotten this point. It seems very common sense to me.
  5. POVs: Also very easy once you know what you’re doing. You have to have AT LEAST THREE POVs in your essay to gain this point. A POV basically points out the author or source of the document, and EXPLICITLY tells how that could bias the document. For example: a peasant reporting about how the peasant revolt was a positive development. The POV could be something like “This document is questionable, though, because the report came from a peasant who would be influenced to support the revolt that he had just taken part in. A better source could have been an impartial bystander.”
  6. Grouping: You need at least THREE groups of TWO documents. Be careful; if you misunderstand a document and place it in a group that it clearly doesn’t belong in, then it won’t count. And if that group only had one other document, then it won’t count as a legitimate group with just one true document that fits in the group. And if you only had two other groups, then you won’t have the necessary three groups to gain the point. I hope that was clear. Just comment if I’m not :slight_smile: You can do more than three groups and DEFINITELY more than two documents per group.</p>

Once you get all six of those points (which you should be able to do with just a bit of practice, don’t fret) then you can open the gate and get to bonus points!!! Yay, this is the fun part.</p>

The last three points are given pretty much at the discretion of the grader, as far as I’m aware. The way to get more points are to:</p>

  1. Use more and more of the documents. Every time I skip one or two that I don’t understand or am not too sure about, and use the rest. This will win you points.
  2. Do more than 3 POVs. ALWAYS do more than three. If you only do three and you mess up on one of them, then you won’t get the original POV point in the first place. But if you can fit in there 5 or 6 POVs then it’s a beautiful essay, as far as they’re concerned haha.
  3. Bring in RELEVANT outside information to throw in there at some points.
  4. Some style, make it a nice essay with good organization, etc. :slight_smile: </p>

It isn’t hard at all to get an 8, and hopefully with some trashy essays you might be able to squeak out a 9! If you have any questions of course comment or PM me or whatever you’d like. I hope this helps you guys ^__^</p>

Excellent, thanks SO much! Probably the most helpful thing I’ve seen today. Haha. Do you have one of these “guidelines” for APUSH? :)</p>

Unfortunately I know absolutely nothing about APUSH. I was going to ask if somebody could do the same for that subject haha. I’m thinking that it’s the same as any other essay, just incorporate the documents in there. I’m hoping that’s it, at least. </p>

And no problem. I’m a quick typer and it all rolled out without a hitch so it’s no big deal :)</p>

Can’t write out the whole system like bethechange did (awesome btw, thanks!), but for APUSH remember that outside information is VITAL to getting anything above a 4. Whereas in APEURO the central point of the essay is to analyze the documents and back it up with historical information, in APUSH the central point of the essay is to craft an essay using historical information and supplement it with a few documents. Major difference, just keep it in mind.
AP Central is an excellent resource to familiarize yourself with the essay process. It’s got past essay responses, the readers feedback, rubric, grading guidelines, etc.
[AP</a> Central - Exam Information](<a href=“Supporting Students from Day One to Exam Day – AP Central | College Board”>Supporting Students from Day One to Exam Day – AP Central | College Board)</p>

bethechange- I take it you took AP Euro in a past year? Thanks for that information! </p>

For those of you who didn’t take APUSH yet, like if you’re taking it this year- outside info is important. My teacher stressed that a lot last year in our DBQ practice stuff in class, and we were also encouraged to group the documents for APUSH as you do on the Euro exam.</p>

The REA Crash Course really is a godsend! It is absolutely beautiful. I’ve read through it twice, and want to read through it once a day from Monday to Thursday next week. I feel really confident knowing that I’ll have read it more than enough next week.</p>

I seriously need some help with groupings, I’m not sure if I’m doing them right or not and I keep getting confused when people say to use PERSIA. What does it mean to use PERSIA, I know what it stands for but I don’t understand how to use it. They way I have been grouping is by basically just making different paragraphs to support the idea, and then putting in the documents that support it, is this right. Like in my last DBQ one of my groupings was about “Why Industrial Revolution was bad for middle class”, the question was something like “talk about how the Industrial revolution affected the Lower and Middle classes”</p>

Lol, forget the PERSIA crap, the whole thing is really lame and useless, to me, anyhow.</p>

“Talk about how the Industrial revolution affected the Lower and Middle classes.”</p>

Yes, a group CAN be about “the indst. rev. being bad for middle classes.” Then your other group can be “it was very demanding for the working class, blah blah blah.” </p>

Grouping is not a big deal, all you do is TAKE NOTES after reading each document, write a couple of words worth of summary, take analysis, write background info, etc…</p>

Once you go and finish, you should notice, if you took enough notes, that your documents will have overlapping factors. Those factors will be your groups.</p>

This is what I write for documents when I analyze them: I underline person speaking, underline any key “tone” words, discuss a bit of background (for OSI), write why the person wrote it (POV), and move on…</p>

If it’s a table/map: Analyze it, notice some points that relate to topic, and move on…</p>

Art: You have to be careful by the title, if you know the artist, it will help significantly, and of course just be careful if it’s satire, as it could throw you off. Analyze shadow contrast, light sources, etc…</p>

I’m self-studying this exam. I’ve taken a bunch of practice tests, and score between 70-75 on the MC section. However, I’m not too sure how the FRQs work. The DBQ explanation above is super-helpful, is there something like that for the essays? I took AP World last year, and the essays were completely formulaic, and I also took APUSH which was the complete opposite. Where does AP Euro fit?</p>

So how ready are you guys for the AP test? I’m not :(</p>

I’d say I can get a 4 easily, hoping for that 5.</p>

Is this really the scale for 2011?</p>

1: 0-59
2: 60-70
3: 71-99
4: 100-118
5: 119-180</p>

Lakersince95, where did you get that scale from? Do you have that for any of the other APs for 2011 (specifically AP Psych, Spanish Lang, Calc AB, & English Lit)?</p>

The scale is not (and will not be) released for 2011.</p>

That is an ‘adjusted’ 2009 scale. It will likely be very close, however. The adjustment was from changing it to fit the change in multiple-choice score calculation. (Not sure how they did that, I’d assume they just kept the same score distributions)</p>

Released scoring guidelines:
<a href=“Supporting Students from Day One to Exam Day – AP Central | College Board”>Supporting Students from Day One to Exam Day – AP Central | College Board;

Yeah, I didn’t think they would actually release them BEFORE the exam, unless someone got hold of it sort of illegally…or something like that…but it’s good to have an approx. scale.</p>

Since this is the first year with the new scale, CB may decide to be nice and give us a lenient curve.</p>

Or not.</p>

^ Let’s not bet on it, just to be safe.</p>

I doubt they’ll give us a lenient curve…you know they’ll have to make the curve harsher since they’re taking away the guessing penalty, but they know EVERYONE’s gonna guess on everything no matter what (unless you run out of time to finish), so I’m afraid of them coming up with a really harsh curve. </p>

I took a Euro practice test today. I haven’t studied that much yet. I did the MC in 45 minutes (out of the 55 we get) and got 52/80, and based on the approximate curves I’ve seen, if I added a DBQ score of 5+ and 5+ on each FRQ, that would be a 4, so hopefully that works out for me. I’ll study more yet and hopefully increase that MC score- is that score good you think, anyone know an average MC score? It’s not outstanding, but not horrible, right?(assuming that I have decent essays, at 5+, which I think I can manage.)</p>