<p>sorry typing error... im a horrible typer... i actually didnt even mention it in my app... i listed the places where ive lived and my essay maybe brosed over it slightly... but otherwise, i chose to leave it out... i mean don't any of you feel bad using the most intimate expiriences, talents, gender or ethnicities just to gain admissions to a uni? Its prostituting who you are really... i could never use something so close to my heart just to get the approval of a committee of people i dont know... its being ruthless with your self</p>
<p>Well, I'm pretty sure sharing my pesonal innermost self just sealed my rejection letter. Hey, what's the opposite of prostitution? I did that. But I didn't feel bad about it; it was actually a release. Like Arthur in The Scarlet Letter :D</p>
<p>opposite of prostitution... zealous abstinence? infirm abstinence.... i dont know... heehee but its ok... remeber there is a school for each of us. I see it as a dating scenario... in flirting with all of them but there is only once for me... the only problem is that they have to like me back... one of them will for sure cuz im hot! (heehee) but seriously.... they know what they are looking for... its for your own good if you get rejected... and if things still arent working... you can go on a desert island, write a bestseller about survivial... and its all good!</p>
<p>"I don't think coming from a certain state helps at all." It does if you live in a place like South Dakota or Wyoming. However, 99% of applicants don't have such an advantage, so it's rarely discussed.</p>
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On my essays I said how am I a COMMUNIST.</p>
<p>There are too many communists in Cambridge already... they're always handing out crappy newspapers around the science center.</p>
<p>Yes, as mentioned earlier, that isn't quite a hook...lol</p>
<p>I still don't know what "hooks" really mean. Nevertheless, here I go:</p>
<p>-URM
-Deaf (is that a hook?)
-Only a high school student to research in university lab (hook?)
-Karate & won an award (hook?)</p>
<p>But I didn't apply to Harvard. I just like hanging out here in Harvard forum. :-)</p>
<p>This is my first year learning in a english-based high school(junior)</p>
<p>If i get 5s or 4s on ten APs this year(including two physics C, chemistry, two economics, two government, statistics, calculus BC, us history), will that be a hook?</p>
<p>So, i'm wondering whether to spend my time on studying the SAT reasoning test or on the APs.</p>
<p>thanks for any respond!</p>
<p>The SAT is probably more important but if you can manage ten 5s, then that is pretty damn good.</p>
<p>better even if you manage to get incredible SATs and ten 5s.</p>
<p>but i guess that's nearly impossible.</p>
<p>utoy--Did you apply to Harvard already? Because if so, they don't see your AP scores from this year until long after they've accepted/rejected you.</p>
<p>I'm a junior now, so , that's why i want to do that much APs~ ha~~</p>
<p>another question,
do we need to send AP scores to ivies through collegeboard like SATs?</p>
<pre><code> and do we need to supply the proofs for ECs like what clubs we attanded?
thanks for any reply~~
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<p>Nope. No need to verify AP scores until you matriculate, and that's only if you want to use them for placement credit, and no need to verify ECs (unless, of course, they're major national competitions like USAMO, etc., where the college can very easily check to see if you're lying). So yes, you can lie through your nose but no, that's not a good idea ;)</p>
<p>You're welcome.</p>
<p>I don't think that Harvard believes in hooks. I know I don't. However, what I think makes me sligtly different than others is that...</p>
<ol>
<li>I have won a few national math awards (overseas) </li>
<li>I have been out of school for awhile</li>
<li>I immigrated to the US alone</li>
<li>After I went back to school (US) I ranked #1/250-350 in all math/sci classes (college) despite my losing touch with academia for years</li>
<li>I have had 19 jobs (I might be forgetting some)</li>
<li>Did not for one second think of what the board would want to see in my application. Just one example: I would in no way try to make a martyr of myself and try to prove that I overcame adversity. [I've had] no Great war and no Great depression, and neither has any of you. Yeah I did go through hell but I did not make that the center of my application. I just threw it in there. Barely. Discretely. </li>
<li>I mentioned no community service. </li>
<li>I mentioned no leadership, trusting that a board of people of infinite perspicacity and clairvoyance could tell if I have any leadership potential without me pushing them to believe so or having to talk about VPing a trivial club. </li>
<li>I left a lot of things in the air.</li>
<li>I called the adcoms "Dear Judges and Jurors"
----All rights reserved----</li>
</ol>
<p>martinblue I don;t believe in hooks either. I think its just something people use to justify decisions that they don't like to imagine can't be explained away with a simple explanation.</p>
<p>btw, in essays, if the whole rise-after-fall theme doesn't work, what essay topics will do? i think if you don't have an adequate hook, the essays may be a good replacement.</p>
<p>was that comment directed towards me?</p>
<p>martinibluex - I totally agree with you. As a matter of fact, I'm using a similar mode of procedure.</p>