*** Official Literature Thread ***

<p>I have a couple of questions:</p>

<p>Copy men (what does that mean?)</p>

<p>Is disillusionment right, for the boredom poem?</p>

<p>Boredom poem again: ending four words is wry? or does it indicate his realization that he is alone in his views?</p>

<p>Train/city passage:
-Waiter laced (was the word compulsory in the right answer?)
-the answer choice with homecooked meal in it is right?</p>

<p>Any more wrong in my post? Can you pick them out please?</p>

<p>I don't know but I put home-cooked meal too.</p>

<p>"-Waiter laced (was the word compulsory in the right answer?)"</p>

<p>That's what I put. The question was how is the waiter's smiled "lace with diginity"? My answer had the words extraneous and compulsory. I was thinking that the black waiter sympathized with his people and didn't really like working for the snooty white people.</p>

<p>The copy men one had something to do with mannerisms. I dont think wry is right either for those final four words, i think i put something about being alone too I just forget the other choices. The answer with compulsory is right and I forget the homecooked meal answer. hope that helps.</p>

<p>i think i put the answer choice with the word "wry" as well. I agree with the compulsory answer. I put disillusionment, and for the geese one i put he was beginning his journey. But idk the questions were so ambiguous that if it was a real class setting I think we could support multiple answers for the same question.</p>

<p>i tried searching online but i still can't find approximations of raw score conversions... what would a 40ish out of 60 equate to out of 800? thanks!</p>

<p>Bleak House
1. first paragraphs create tangible atmosphere
2. soot, fog, etc represent I) emblematic of urban conditions and III) corrupt judicial system?
4. reference to "heaven and earth" in last line does not contribute to thematic structure because the passage describes very earthly conditions
5. the layers of soot compounding "link commerce with physical environment"
6. I said that the primary purpose was a "rejection of British culture and society, especially decaying London."</p>

<p>Women writers passage
5. I put that "copy" means that women can make characters men in a play. The line after that one said "if drawn to the Life of it", so I thought that copy refers to the lifelike reproduction of men in fiction.
7. I said symbolism, but I think that it could have been antithesis.
9. "Men"</p>

<p>Tennyson Poem
1. Spirit. If he wants to remain in his spirit, how can he simultaneously say "adieu" to it? Contradictory. For another question, I said that "his dream" was one of "permanence and stability". </p>

<p>Bored of everything poem
2. Tranquil hills and gin represent "things that bore the narrator". This line "And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag" says so directly.
3. "Wry" was the answer to the question "What's the narrator's tone?" "He is comically aware that he is left alone" is the answer to the question "What does the syntax and punctuation of the last line express?"</p>

<p>Riding trains/city passage
1. "homey it up" was a "limited but substantive sign of sympathy", an apology for the discriminatory green curtain.
2. The "waiter laced" means that "ornament to his sophistication"
3. city portrayed as a "compatible and affectionate partner"
4. the first sentence "establishes social time and era" - it said date and mentioned the segregation
5. either "unrealistic expectations of quality of table setting" or "homecooked meal"
6. the two travelers' relationship was defined by their "reaction to the city"
7. Their "dancing" in the last paragraph expressed "optimism and joy"</p>

<p>Passionless grief
1. half-taught is "people who have not felt the full intensity of grief"
2. compares "true grief and a desert"
3. "instruct"
4. advises reader to grieve "with the dignity of a statue"
5 grief will at some point cease to exist
7. People who protest against God expressing "pain and anger"
8. Those same people are not hopeless because their anger signifies "they do not feel that loss is inalterable"</p>

<p>Man whose got laid off/journey/inspired by geese
1. purpose is to illustrate "decision"
2. the geese told him how to begin his journey?
3. the geese also assure him of the "appropriateness of his decision"
5. "the idea" is his conviction embark on a journey
6. the explosion was a comparison between the "destructive forces of nature and related to himself". </p>

<p>Whoa, this post is overly long. Sorry.</p>

<p>thanks a lot guys. this is really helpful. :)
hopefully, we all did well.</p>

<p>Was there a question with "wrongheaded" as an answer, or am I getting confused?</p>

<p>And for tranquil and gin, was "things that bore the narrator" a choice? What was the choice with "solace" in it?</p>

<p>Yes, there was. Something about these two things give people solace. </p>

<p>See. this what I hate about the Lit test. You ask yourself, do I just follow what is directly stated or go through rigorous analyzation?</p>

<p>what about the nature poem? anyone remember any more questions?</p>

<p>I thought the answer to the gin one was "things that normally brought people solace (but didn't bring the narrator solace)." I don't remember "things that bore the narrator" being a choice. Huh.</p>

<p>And the homecooked meal question: there were lines about people wrapping biscuits and putting them under their seats. It's slipping from my mind now but, how many people remember putting homecooked meal?</p>

<p>Copy men: I kept thinking that for sure it was to make men characters in their plays, but that doesn't seem quite right.</p>

<p>Disillusionment + Wry in the boredom poem: There were two questions. One of them I put disillusionment (for his tone, I think?), the other I put that he came to the realization that all his attitudes made him alone in the world.</p>

<p>Geese: Hmm...Explosion, I said that more bad things were to come. How is it anything else?
-I put that the geese told him HOW to begin his journey, but that now doesn't seem right.</p>

<p>I think I've got a master list of 46 questions. PM if you want it or want to talk.</p>

<p>longislander and thykingdomcome - I am amazed at your memory. </p>

<p>In response to them: (I mostly had the same answers)</p>

<p>Some of you put "heroic couplet" down for the women bashing men passage.. but I put down blank verse:</p>

<p>Definition of Heroic couplet: Couplets written in iambic pentameter.
Couplet: two grouped lines that rhyme.</p>

<p>But the poem/passage didn't rhyme in couplets. It was in iambic pentameter, yes, but most of the time, there was no end rhyme.. </p>

<p>Blank verse: written in iambic pentameter but with no specific rhyme pattern.</p>

<p>Literary device used in women bashing men passage: "antithesis" definitely.
There was a parallelism in the sentence structure.</p>

<p>Bored of everything poem:</p>

<ul>
<li>tranquil hill and gin - (I didn't put down "common things of solace".. but I don't remember what I did!)</li>
</ul>

<p>Riding trains/city passage
- black waiter sympathetic... didn't feel the need to smile because he was serving black people, so it was necessary (but not in a mean way!)
- the first sentence (something about “colored section of the train) highlights racial separations in the specific historic time period. </p>

<p>Man whose got laid off/journey/inspired by geese
he said he wondered if he would have "sleep or an explosion" and I put that he understood that there was a parallel between natural occurances and his life..
yup yup =)</p>

<p>i put heroic couplets.. don't think it was blank verse</p>

<p>not many took lit this month i guess</p>

<p>it wasnt iambic pentameter i believe. i counted up the syllables</p>

<p>i have the entire thing in front of me. it's heroic couplet. ALL OF THE LINES RHYME w/ iambic pentameter!</p>

<p>does anyone know what score a 40 out of 60 on the literature equates to? thanks!</p>

<p>it was a couplet...it rhymed after every set composed of 2.</p>

<p>yourdirtysockszx:</p>

<p>although most of the lines rhyme, not all of them do.</p>

<p>I capitalized the ones that don't from the first part:</p>

<p>I here, and there, o'erheard a coxcomb CRY
Ah, rot it - 'tis a woman's COMEDY
One, who because she lately chanced to please us,
With her damned stuff will never cease to tease us,
What has poor woman done that she must be,
Debarred from sense and sacred poetry?
Why in this age has Heaven allowed you more,
And women less of wit than heretofore?
We once were famed in story, and could write
Equal to men; could govern, nay could fight.
We still have passive valour, and can SHOW
Would custom give us leave the active too,
Since we no provocations want from you</p>

<p>therefore, there's no specific pattern to the rhyme. blank verse can include couplets that rhyme, but heroic couplets is restricted in the fact that all lines must rhyme in couplets.. which isn't true.</p>

<p>agentbauer: you're right, it's not all in iambic pentameter. The other choices were tetrameter and hexameter.. which the passage isn't in completely either.. which is why I put blank verse because it seemed like the least restrictive option :/</p>

<p>I think it's close enough for being a couplet.</p>