<p>WAIT! WHAT THE !!!!! OMG!!!!SL FKJSKLFJ WOF)( U)W<em>QIOWJF(USIO:FJL:SFJKL: SDNVKL: SEJF)UQW)_(#URKL: SDF JKLSETIO WU</em>() ETUO) GF. Time to email them...</p>
<p>Errr, the application says: "If you took the SAT I or ACT more than once, list the test on which you received the highest combined/composite score or the highest math score." So that means u only put on there the highest score from one sitting? Or else why would they separate math...</p>
<p>wat? i didnt know you can combine. </p>
<p>i thought you put your highest combined score on one sitting.</p>
<p>I take that back.
The app actually DOES say
[quote]
If you took the SAT I or ACT more than once, list the test on which you received the highest combined/composite score or the highest math score
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Hm. Really? I swore composite was okay. My best scores just happened to be from one testing, but I thought you could. Ben?</p>
<p>i called mit and asked them when i was applying and they said u can combine from best sittings.....oh yeah im also deferred i think, oh well just got into upenn :)</p>
<p>No, Ben has clarified that we should report the highest composite score from a single sitting. Also, note the single field for date. If you could combine (like on Stanford's app for example) they would have multiple fields.</p>
<p>My son applied last year, but had he been in your spot (those of you predicting deferrals and rejections, that is)...this is what I would have said to him: </p>
<h1>1- All the tubes have not yet been delivered</h1>
<h1>2- The circumstances of your notification are less than ideal</h1>
<h1>3- If indeed you have been deferred, and you are thinking you are going to pursue MIT RD, you might want to think about how to present yourself in a positive light. Resilience. Remember, you are known on this thread and this thread is perused by MIT admissions officers. Everyone feels disappointed, not everyone whines and blames.</h1>
<h1>4- MIT is a meritocracy. My son has 5 legacy affiliations (including 2 women!) and had scores, etc in the average range for MIT and was WL last year. Why? He simply wasn't the best candidate in a very competitive pool. He got over it and is doing great at another great school; if this is your destiny, you will too.</h1>
<h1>5- What's done is done. You can't control it. What you can control is your mental health, your grades, your attitude, your letter in which you tell MIT you still want to go there, etc.</h1>
<h1>6- Give yourself another 12 hours to deal with this, and then get on with it. Get your other applications done, do a great job with them, have fun with your friends. Don't dwell.</h1>
<h1>7- Really, everything will be fine. You are still the same great kids you were 6 days ago. Remember how you felt when you felt confident enough to apply to MIT in the first place- and let that be what shines through now...</h1>
<p>I wouldn't e-mail them just about your SAT scores. If anything, I almost think that will give them the wrong impression (too grade-mongering, etc.). They get your official report, and they'll know how to read it. After all, they are much more familiar with their formula that we are (if such a rigid formula exists at all). I just don't think SATs really matter for MIT. You certainly can't get in without them. But making or breaking anything? Nah.</p>
<p>If it's too late now (read: you've already e-mailed), I wouldn't worry about it either.</p>
<p>*Decision: Deferred *</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I: 2200 Composite (710 CR, 770 M, 720 W)
[</em>] SAT IIs: 780 Math 2, 750 US History, 680 Physics
[<em>] GPA: 3.96 UW, 4.18 W (Exhausted all AP's at school)
[</em>] Rank: 5/87
[li] Other stats: 4's on US History, Euro History, Art History; 3 on English Language[/li][/ul]</p>
<p>Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Good, short answers were a bit off, especially for the "Why MIT? and which department?"
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Great from one teacher, probably good from the other (didn't get in until faced on November 30)
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Probably good, she knows me pretty well
[</em>] Hook (if any): MITES summer program
[/ul]</p>
<p>Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: San Diego, CA
[</em>] School Type: Charter (competitive and well-recognized); School to support first generation, low-income students
[<em>] Ethnicity: Vietnamese
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Strengths/Weaknesses: MITES evaluations were good. I showed commitment to 2-3 EC's. My SAT scores were off. Not enough EC's?
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: 1 word, suspension. Happened in 10th grade, and that pretty much summarizes, otherwise I thought I was a very strong candidate because of my performance with MITES.<br>
[/ul]Other Factors:
*General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I don't what to feel. *</p>
<p>** I assumed deferral earlier but called this morning and got accepted. Strange, I live in Lexington, MA where three people already got decisions, so I thought it was hopeless. Guess I'll agree with Pr0digy, dreams do come true.</p>
<p>Decision: ACCEPTED</p>
<p>Stats:
SAT: 800M, 780V, 790W
SAT IIs: 800 MathIIC, 790 Chem, 780 Bio, 770 US Hist, 750 Physics, 730 World History, 720 Writing
APs: BC Calc, Macro/Micro Economics, English Lang/Lit, Physics C Mech/E+M, Physcis B, Statistics, Chemistry, US History, World History, Biology , Environmental Science
GPA: 3.55 (3.63 after 1st quarter)
Rank: Somewhere down there
Other stats:
Subjective:
Essays: Very thoroughly thought out. Supported low GPA.
Teacher Recs: 5 - two amazing, other three haven't read
Counselor Rec: who knows
Hook (if any): nationally ranked pianist, math team captain, ap national scholar as a sophomore
Location/Person:
State or Country: MA
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: Male
Other Factors:[list][<em>] Extracurriculars: work >20hrs a week at a grocery store, community service, piano[</em>] Why I think I was accepted/deferred: god knows. maybe other things canceled out my horrid history/english grades[*] Other thoughts: sigh.</p>
<p>Decision:deferred(called)</p>
<p>Stats:</p>
<pre><code>* SAT:M760 V770
* SAT IIs:Math 2c 800, physics 790, chem 780
* GPA:3.7(3.3,3.9,3.9)
* Rank:doesn't rank
* Other stats:i participated in USNCO, AIME
</code></pre>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<pre><code>* Essays:my teacher loved it but i now see a missing component
* Teacher Recs:never read them
* Counselor Rec:my counselor said my former counselor's rec was great
* Hook (if any): came from korea last year?
</code></pre>
<p>Location/Person:</p>
<pre><code>* State or Country:VA
* School Type:Public
* Ethnicity:Korean
* Gender:M
</code></pre>
<p>Other Factors:
* Extracurriculars:Newspaper, MUN
* Why I think I was accepted/deferred:My ECs sucked
* Other thoughts:gonna send additional info</p>
<p>Decision: DEFFERED</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: Math 800, CR 740, WR 690
[</em>] SAT IIs: Math IIc 780, Bio M 730, Literature 750
[<em>] GPA: 4.01 UW
[</em>] Rank: 1 of 160
[<em>] Other stats: 5s on Calc AB, Bio, Psych....4 on Eng Lang.
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Essays: Ehh...could have been better.
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Very good. (One from a teach who I have known since I was 3. He has coached me for many years as well. The other from a teacher I have had for 3 classes, did summe research with, and is my assistant coach.)
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Very good. Said I am the best applicant she has ever had.
[<em>] Hook (if any): Have played basketball year-round all my life and am the Varisty captain. Have run my own business for 2 years during the summer.
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country: Vermont
[<em>] School Type: Semi-Private
[</em>] Ethnicity: White
[<em>] Gender: Male
[/ul]Other Factors:[list]
[</em>] Extracurriculars: NHS, Varsity Basketball Captain, AAU Basketball Captain, Senior Leader(big at my school), Golf team, Run my own business
[<em>] Why I think I was accepted/deferred: My essays weren't great and I don't have a long list of national awards. I spend my free time doing things outside such as basketball and I don't think this got as much value as I thought it should.
[</em>] Other thoughts: Worst way of finding out. Not MITs fault I know but still frustrating. Now I have to try to fix it all up for round #2. I hope they value someone with talents outside of school :-/</p>
<p>Decision: Deferred</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 800/800/760 Math/Reading/Writing
[</em>] SAT IIs: 800/780/770 US History/Math IIc/Chemistry
[<em>] GPA: 4.0 unweighted.<br>
[</em>] Rank: No idea.<br>
[<em>] Other stats: 5s on AP Chem and AP US History.<br>
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Essays: Very good
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Very good
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Very good
[<em>] Hook (if any): I've spent most of HS in a wheelchair :/
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country: Florida
[<em>] School Type: Public
[</em>] Ethnicity: White
[<em>] Gender: Male
[/ul]Other Factors:[list]
[</em>] Extracurriculars: Quiz Bowl (captain), Model UN (officer), teenage republicans, NHS tutoring (over 30 hrs this semester)
[<em>] Why I think I was accepted/deferred: So-so extra curriculars. Also my school is very limited in AP Courses. I am taking six this year but could only take two last year.
[</em>] Other thoughts: I was hoping I'd get in early so I wouldn't have to finish all of my other apps. Oh well.</p>
<p>(Wow, I almost finished typing it all up, when I accidentally closed the window. Here goes again, then).</p>
<p>[size=+1]Decision: Deferred<a href="Called">/size</a></p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 2080, 760M, 670V, 650W, (Though, I've heard they don't consider the writing section)
[</em>] SAT IIs: 760 MIc, 760 MIIc, 730 Physics
[<em>] ACT: 33, 34 English, 33 Math, 32 Reading, 32 Science.
[</em>] GPA: 3.9ish, 4 B's in high school, Comp Lit 1, Comp Lit 2, Brit Lit 1, and Adv. Am. Hist 2.
[<em>] Rank: School doesn't rank.
[</em>] Other stats: (these couldn't have helped) 3 BC Cal, 3 AB subscore, 3 Phys C Mech, 2 Phys C E&M</p>
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Fair. I didn't talk about my personal history/community/whatever so much as I talked about project work/etc. I'll be fixing this for RD. :)
[</em>] Teacher Recs: One awesome, one I have no idea.
[<em>] Counselor Rec: I assume very good.
[</em>] Hook (if any): Massive EC's and etc. (see below)</p>
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Alabama
[</em>] School Type: Math and Science, Boarding (school starts 10 or 11 to 12, I came in 10)
[<em>] Ethnicity: Caucasian
[</em>] Gender: Male</p>
<p>[/ul]Other Factors:[ul]
[li] Curriculars, Extracurriculars, and Research:</p>[/li]
<p>[li] Curriculars: (These are classes I've gone beyond the requirement to take, because of my enjoyment of the fields): (Junior)AP BC calculus (It's actually split into seperate classes, of which I took Diff Cal(10), Integral, BC) Physics C, Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, Complex Analysis, Problem Solving Seminar, Intro to Electrical Engineering, Digital Electronics, Robotics, Introduction to Electrodynamics (directed study), (Senior)Lasers and Holography, AP Chem, Multivariable Calc, Number Theory, Problem Solving Seminar, Quantum and Relativity, Math research (for credit, explained below), (will take) Astrophyics, Statistics.</p>[/li]
<p>[li] Extracurriculars:[/li]-Soccer since age 5, Varsity since 10th grade.</p>
<p>-I built my own audio amplifier and speakers (11th)</p>
<p>-Chess club since 10th grade.</p>
<p>-Science Olympiad (11, 12).</p>
<p>-Vice President of RC/Engineering club (forgot to mention this one).</p>
<p>-Volunteer Camp Counseler at United Cerebral Palsy's CAMP SMILE, a camp for mentally (or otherwise) disabled children. (Summer after 11)</p>
<p>-Swim teacher for two summers (before I moved), teaching kids age 4 - 15.</p>
<p>-I'm a community level designer for Unreal Tournament 2004. I work with a team of talented mappers from (literally) all over the world. We've released two mappacks (Ultimate Community Map Pack (1 and 2), or UCMP(2)). The first release, we were completely unknown, and still received over 40,000 downloads of the pack in a short period of time (a couple weeks). This mappack was published in PCZone of the UK, (and permission was asked of us for it to be published in a French magazine, though we never received confirmation that it happened). The second mappack I co-authored a map for with an online aquaintance. We've been asked permission to publish in an Italian magazine, no confirmation that it has happened though. <a href="http://www.ucmappack.org%5B/url%5D">www.ucmappack.org</a> for the mappack's site, and go here for images of my map for the first pack, DM-UCMP-Contrast: <a href="http://www.ucmappack.org/ucmp1scrs/dmcont.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.ucmappack.org/ucmp1scrs/dmcont.htm</a>, and here for images of the map for the second pack, BR/CTF-UCMP2-Sublimity: <a href="http://www.ucmappack.org/ucmp2scrs/ctfsub.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.ucmappack.org/ucmp2scrs/ctfsub.htm</a>.</p>
<p>[li] Research:[/li]-I was invited to an internship at the University of Alabama's EMSyL (ElectroMechanical Systems Laboratory)</p>
<p>-Based off experience from this internship, me and a friend built a robotic system that can map out the interior of a room in 3Dimensions into a VRML file. (Unfortunately, none of the data looks too hot, due to the fact that we couldn't afford good hardware ;))</p>
<p>-For this robotics project, our physics teacher took us to the National Consortium of Specialized Secondary Schools of Math, Science, and Technology (NCSSSMST) at Villanova University to present our work.</p>
<p>-We expanded this project into a computer program that uses neural networks to learn to recognize 3D objects. We learned of the Siemens competition a month before the deadline, so we worked hard to get it into submittable form. We submitted it, but didn't make semi-finalist.
-We're expanding this project further so that it will be able to recognize 3d objects in a clustered environment of 3d objects. (Post EA app submission), I've managed to derive new math in order to describe these 3D objects, thus making it much easier.</p>
<p>-Our physics professor intends to take us to the next NCSSSMST at Renssalear to present this project.</p>
<p>-My school is one of 18 in the nation to recieve the MIT-Lemelson Inventeams $10,000 grant. I'm one of the team leaders on this project, and unless circumstances change Drastically, I'll be one of the presenters at MIT in June. Our project is to make a (mostly) autonomous robotic system that can detect and destroy metallic AND non-metallic land mines. We're planning on implementing a form of the object recognition program in this project as well.</p>
<p>-Since I've taken (/am taking the last of the) math classes at my school, my math teacher invited me to do research with her husband, a math Ph.D. at a local university. I'm researching Rational Approximation with him.
[/ul]</p>
<p>---I know there's more stuff, but because I haven't written a resume (will being doing this for RD as well), I can't ever remember all of it at any time. I'll edit if I remember anything soon.</p>
<p>[ul]
[<em>] Why I think I was deferred: AP scores? Not enough space in the 30% accepted? My physics teacher told me MIT hadn't accepted many students from our school after they accepted 5-ish one year, and none of them chose to go?
[</em>] Other thoughts: Blah :(
[/ul]</p>
<p>I'm a little disappointed- I found out today I was deferred. I will post up my stats later. But congratulations to all who got in early!! And to my fellow deferralees, let's kick some butt during RD!</p>
<p>Prodigy, How in the Hell could anyone get into MIT with scores like that?</p>
<p>he's black</p>
<p>guys... way to be subtle and considerate. just think two things: 1) how would you feel if you were him and people immediately started attacking you over something you couldn't control. and 2) what good is it doing you to say **** like that. does it make you feel better? does it help you get in? maybe the first one, but definitely not the second one.</p>
<p>^ hmmmm, a black asian....</p>
<p>Decision: Deferred</p>
<p>Stats:
Sat1: 800m 720v 740w
Sat2: 800m2c, 800physics, 800bio
GPA: 3.87
Rank: (no rank, but top 10%, cum laude)
School: competitive private school (meaning.....not a hook)</p>
<p>AP's: 5 AB calc, 4 US Hist, 4 English Lit (have other AP classes w/o tests yet)
Essays: i went through several drafts over a period of 2 months, were very good, i wrote about my passion for building, designing
Teacher recs: 4 of them, all good
antiHook: white male, private school
Hook: my dad went to MIT undergrad</p>
<p>I have been passionate about engineering for my whole life. I am captain of school's robotics team, and love robotics. I build lots of potato cannons, including an original design for pneumatic piston-action cannon. I have placed 2nd in two regional/state engineering competitions. Natl Merit Semi. Attended summer gov school and JHU-CTY. Community service in honduras.</p>
<p>WHy?
I dont really know.
Must be a really competitive pool.</p>
<p>Prodigy, i apologize for my irrational assumptions. There is obviously more to your story. I wish i could delete that other post.</p>
<p>yayo deferred</p>