Official Nov. Literature Test Thread

<p>heres what i put...iono if i am right or wrong...</p>

<p>I thought the reader and narrator found the woman amusing.</p>

<p>It was attacking vanity.</p>

<p>I also put all the following except self-something.</p>

<p>The major metaphore in paragraph 2 was the iron house.</p>

<p>I thought the 2nd paragraph was like deglorifying the 1st paragraph or something like that.</p>

<p>I put Choice E for Zora, that she was confident of herself, but felt there were somethings beyond her control.</p>

<p>I also put blank verse..</p>

<p>For Galatea, I put that narrator implied that Pygma suffered for his ego. I also put that Pygma something "ardent desire?". </p>

<p>For the Lily and Oak..I put something like the author wanted youth to enjoy life.</p>

<p>I put...</p>

<p>narrator and reader found her amusing
vanity
ardent passion
horse is the extended metaphor
2 train paragraphs use the same methods
Zora is proud of herself but feels there is a higher power.. or however that one is phrased
epic simile
no blank verse</p>

<p>"self-denial/self-____?"
was that the question that asked which words would have least accurately described the crazy lady? I don't think the word was self-denial, but I picked a different answer anyway. anyone remember the other choices?</p>

<p>"Non-conventional sonnet?"
I don't remember this question or the choices, but I remember thinking that was a convential sonnet, mainly because it had 14 lines (I don't know anything else about sonnets)</p>

<p>...so same for everything except those 2</p>

<p>...what was the effect of the rain? what was the effect of the drums? did the narrator absolve him from guilt (since he never talked about what he did wrong to his ladyfriend)? how would the effect of the music be described? (elemental force?)</p>

<p>Does anyone know what the name of the poem/author with the lilly and the oak was? I thought it was amazing. Same about the one with the gone lover. I loved both of those, so if anybody knew the names/author I'd appreciate it =)</p>

<p>"...what was the effect of the rain? what was the effect of the drums? did the narrator absolve him from guilt (since he never talked about what he did wrong to his ladyfriend)? how would the effect of the music be described? (elemental force?)"</p>

<p>I said rain makes boy think his despondency/sadness is outside of him
Drums--I think intensify force?
Narrator--I said the narrator makes reader sympathetic
What were the other options for the "elemental force" q?</p>

<p>It is Not Growing Like a Tree by Ben Jonson and Monna Innominata by Christina Rosetti</p>

<p>Thank you very much, how'd you know?</p>

<p>searched Google books</p>

<p>was one ebullient to introspective or something like that?</p>

<p>zdub:</p>

<p>"self-denial/self-____?"
was that the question that asked which words would have least accurately described the crazy lady? I don't think the word was self-denial, but I picked a different answer anyway. anyone remember the other choices?</p>

<p>"Non-conventional sonnet?"
I don't remember this question or the choices, but I remember thinking that was a convential sonnet, mainly because it had 14 lines (I don't know anything else about sonnets)</p>

<p>i chose irony because i thought self-deception didn't describe her.
i put non-conventional sonnet because the rest didn't really make much sense.
and for your last post i put ebullient to pensive as my answer.</p>

<p>I didn't pick irony or self-deception.. anyone remember the other choices?</p>

<p>It's ebulent to pensive.</p>

<p>The one about the husband not coming, what was it NOT. I couldn't find any allusion to mythical lovers, but it definitly did not follow sonnet rules the strictly. Not couplet at end, etc.</p>

<p>So I just put sonnet answer.</p>

<p>It was a sonnet - just because it is not a Shakespearean sonnet does not mean that it's not a sonnet - the sonnet form is actually called Petrarchan sonnet (an octet and a sextet). So the answer was no reference to mythological readers.</p>

<p>Also, I disagree with the vanity one....I think it was class difference that was being mocked: notice the use of pompous vocabulary that becomes a parody, the innuendos towards the hierarchy of the characters - just IMO.</p>

<p>i picked irony over self-deception becasue she talks about herself being young, etc. =/</p>

<p>and for the sonnet one, i thought that there are different types of sonnet, so i picked classical illusion, because i was sure there wasn't any.
idk, can't be sure for this test</p>

<p>All I know is that I bombed this test... argh. Well, at least I answered most of the questions, so here's hoping for a miracle. Good luck to you all.</p>

<p>As for the iron horse passage, I put in terms of relation of Passage one to two that the second one moves from the specific to the general - they are both somewhat critical of industry, but the second one takes it from the specific that is developed in the first paragraph (train) to the general (enterprise).
Also, Zora was accepting her individuality, but she was part of sth new - I'm positive about this one (that was also what the heap of jumble was alluding to - individuals being part of the Big Soul - or whatever it was called in the text)</p>

<p>BTW, how was it ebullient to pensive? I thought that she was a bit skeptical ending with a question. Eh, I dunno.</p>

<p>i thought the rubble is personal experience</p>

<p>That's what pensive means :) skeptical</p>

<p>jumble was definitely personal traits: it talked about God and how he creates each person - randomly. Each brown bag becomes symbolic of an individual, so the insides are each one's personality - assorted completely randomly, which adds to the original point about individuals being part of a whole (the heap) and about race, sex and religion being just "more glass marbles" that do not make a difference..</p>

<p>Iron Horse, I put that it used many of the same techniques, i.e metaphors and similes.</p>

<p>Damn, I pretty much flipped a coiin in my head abougt the sonnet/allusion 1.</p>