<p>Decision: Rejected</p>
<p>Accepted to Harvard, Yale, Brown PLME, Dartmouth, All UC’s</p>
<p>Decision: Rejected</p>
<p>Accepted to Harvard, Yale, Brown PLME, Dartmouth, All UC’s</p>
<p>ACCEPTED</p>
<p>Objective:</p>
<pre><code>* SAT I (breakdown):did not report
<p>Subjective:</p>
<pre><code>* Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):Student Government (Student Body Pres, Class Reporter), Mu Alpha Theta Math Honor Society (Pres, VP, Competition Team Captain), Teenage Republicans (Pres for two years, Representative), Jackson Symphony League Youth Volunteer Org (VP), Academic Quiz Bowl Team (Captain), Beta Club, National Honor Society, Singing competitions across the South–placed first at MS State Fair Talent competition(arguably most competitive talent competition in MS) and placed second at National Assoc. Teachers of Singing state conv in both classical and musical theatre, School musical (lead), Rankin County’s Junior Miss
<p>Other</p>
<pre><code>* State (if domestic applicant):Mississippi
<p>Reflection</p>
<pre><code>* Strengths:Well rounded, leadership, academics
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>]Major: Physics/Mathematics
[li] SAT I (breakdown): 800/800/800[/li][li] **SAT II: **800 (Math Level 2), 790 (Physics), 750 (Chemistry)[/li][li] **Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): **3.98/4.0[/li][li] **Weighted GPA: **4.7 (highest attainable)[/li][li] **Rank: **Top 1% [/li][</em>] AP (place score in parentheses): 5 APs, 11 APs this year, 16 total.
[<em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP Calculus BC, AP Biology, AP Macroeconomics, AP Microeconomics, AP Comparative Government & Politics, AP US Government & Politics, AP Environmental Science, AP Spanish Language, AP English Literature & Composition, AP Physics C: Mechanics, AP Physics C: Electricity and Magnetism
[</em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): None. [/ul]</p>
<p>Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parentheses): Cross Country (JV Captain, Varsity Runner), Track & Field (JV Captain, Varsity Runner), Boy Scouts of America (Eagle Scout, Senior Patrol Leader, 9 years), Music (9 years playing Piano, Flute, Guitar, and Recorder), Martial Arts (Assistant Taekwondo Instructor, Black Belt, Referee), Self-studying Math (finished Multivariable, Linear Algebra, Topology, Differential Equations)
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: None.
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: More than 300 hours.
[</em>] Summer Activities: Klein Bottle project, Eagle Scout project, Self-studying Mathematics courses.[/ul]</p>
<p>Writing (Rate Quality on 1-10 Scale; 10 as Best):[ul]
[<em>] Essays (Include Subjects): 9[list]
[li] Common App Main: 8; Experience in Vietnam, etc.[/li][</em>] EC Short Answer: 8. If I can recall, it was on my Eagle Scout project.
[<em>] Other(s): 9. Sent in a supplement regarding a Klein Bottle that I made using foam board and 172 slices of washers. Took a little over 4 months to make using toplogy and parametric integration with vectors. [/ul]
[li] Teacher Recommendations: 9. Phenomenal.[/li][</em>] Counselor Rec: 7. Normal to excellent.
[li] Interview: 7. Great interviews for HYP. Nothing that stands out though.[/list]</p>[/li]
<p>Other[ul]
[<em>] Date Submitted App: 12/27
[</em>] State (if domestic applicant): CA
[<em>] School Type: Public
[</em>] Ethnicity: Vietnamese
[<em>] Gender: Male
[</em>] Income Bracket: Lower Middle Class
[li] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None.[/ul]</p>[/li]
<p>Reflection[ul]
[<em>] **Strengths: **SAT score, GPA, Rank, Course Load, decent ECs.
[li] Weaknesses: No major hooks. Typical Asian science-influenced applicant.[/li][</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: Above.
[li] What would you have done differently?: I would have used score choice to hide my first score although it would make a negligible difference. I think I should have focused more on the mathematical and musical aspects of my life and intermeshed those two together because I believe I shine really well especially in those two areas of concentration. I shouldn’t have focused on my Boy Scouts as much.[/ul]</p>[/li]
<p>**General Comments: ** Accepted in Johns Hopkins, UC Berkeley (Regents), UCLA, UCSD, UCI, Princeton, UPenn. Rejected in MIT, Harvard.</p>
<p>Decision: ACCEPTED</p>
<p>Objective:</p>
<ul>
<li>SAT I (breakdown): 2010 (650 CR 640 M 720 W)</li>
<li>ACT: 28</li>
<li>SAT II:570 Literature; 620 US History; 590 Spanish w/Listening</li>
<li>Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.6/4.5</li>
<li>Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):21/577</li>
<li>AP (place score in parenthesis):full IB</li>
<li>Senior Year Course Load: Spanish HL, World History HL, Math SL + Calc 1st year, French SL, English HL</li>
<li>Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):Nat’l Achievement Commended, Pageant award, Nat’l French Exam, Voice of Democracy Certificate of Merit, among others</li>
</ul>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<ul>
<li>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Delta GEMS (Pres.), Wasserstein Project, Peer Mediation, Model, Magazine writer, tennis, national honor society</li>
<li>Job/Work Experience: —</li>
<li>Volunteer/Community service: Math/English/History Tutor, Babysitter, Church cleaner, Children’s ministry assistant</li>
<li>Summer Activities: LEDA Scholars Program (junior year) @ Princeton, Achievers Summer Program @ Indiana Uni., Pathfinders Summer Camp @ Indiana Uni., visiting family and friends back home in Indiana</li>
<li>Essays:Amazing</li>
<li>Teacher Recommendations: Both amazing (English teacher and my Spanish teacher)</li>
<li>Counselor Rec: Really good</li>
<li>Additional Rec: I’m sure it was amazing.</li>
<li>Interview: I thought it was alright/good.</li>
</ul>
<p>Other</p>
<ul>
<li>State (if domestic applicant):AZ</li>
<li>School Type:Public</li>
<li>Ethnicity: AA</li>
<li>Gender:Female</li>
<li>Income Bracket: <35K</li>
<li>Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM, lots of good activities that related to helping community, first generation college student, LEDA Scholar</li>
</ul>
<p>Reflection</p>
<ul>
<li>Strengths: LEDA Scholar, Essays, Recs</li>
<li>Weaknesses: I don’t wanna say SAT scores and GPA. I worked hard. But to others, it may not be the best, but I’m me.</li>
<li>Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected:See strengths</li>
<li>Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Northwestern, USC, NYU, Boston Uni., Syracuse, DePauw, ASU; rej’d only at Stanford and UCLA</li>
</ul>
<p>Decision: Rejected</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 2350 (780cr / 770m / 800w / 12e)
[</em>] SAT II: 800 mathII, 790 bio-e
[<em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.83
[</em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): no rank
[<em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): 5, 5, 5, 4, 4
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: most rigorous, as always.
[<em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): see below.
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): art (10x int’l/nat’l awards, 3x int’l/nat’l publications, 5x int’l/nat’l/local galleries, years of independent study, lessons, classes, workshops, city-wide activities, volunteering), varsity swimming (captain), culture club (president), service club (president), multicultural club (leader), social outreach program (president), school summer program (director), school board (elected official), yearbook (executive editor), research, and miscellaneous volunteering.
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: a little bit, but nothing major
[</em>] Volunteer/Community service: worked as a TA and teacher, but nothing crazy amazing.
[<em>] Summer Activities: art, internships, research, work, volunteering, travel, and relaxing.
[</em>] Essays: my commonapp was a narrative rooted in a studio experience in which i reflected on self-hate and beauty defined in the asian community, and how living against those notions influences and drives me in my artistry and life. my summer essay was well written and engaging, and my princeton essay was a re-use of my risky and probably too-risky brown essay.
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: presumably excellent, but i doubt they were anything jaw-dropping.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: i’m sure this was fabulous: specific, long, lively, and stuffed with anecdotes.
[<em>] Additional Rec: didn’t submit it to princeton.
[</em>] Interview: my interviewer was a really interesting multi-dichotomy–wealthy and unemployed, youthfully spirited and in his 70s. we got along great, and it was one of my better ones. i got all dressed up for this one too, lol.
[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Country (if international applicant): midwest, usa
[</em>] School Type: small, secular, competitive, suburban private.
[<em>] Ethnicity: east asian
[</em>] Gender: male
[<em>] Income Bracket: didn’t apply for FA
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[<em>] Strengths: ECs, leadership, awards, scores, senior year grades, essays, and a very strong art portfolio.
[</em>] Weaknesses: gpa. i had 8 semester B’s, and only one was in freshman year, so with the princeton drop-the-frosh-grades, my gpa plummeted into princeton purgatory. any amount of CPR couldn’t resurrect that 3.6 or whatever it was.
[<em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: gpa and possibly a too-risky princeton essay that didn’t fit the prompt too well.
[</em>] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
accepted at yale, harvard, columbia, cornell, uchicago, wustl, pomona, swarthmore, wesleyan, nyu, carnegie mellon, uiuc.
rejected at stanford, brown, penn, princeton.
waitlisted nowhere.
[/ul]General Comments: princeton used to be my dream school when a toddler, so it’s kind of sad, but i’ve been accepted to my top two schools so i can not complain at all. congratulations and good luck to everyone! it’s been a helluva ride, and i know that if we enter college in the right attitude, we’re bound for success and happiness.</p>
<p>what did u guys do to get in during high school? please reply?</p>
<p>Decision: Rejected</p>
<p>**Objective: **
SAT I (breakdown): 2370 : 770CR 800M 800W
SAT II: 800Math2 800French 800BioE 780USH
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.90
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):no rank
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): none
Can speak six languages fluently
</p>
<p>[See</a> detailed stats on the Harvard thread](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064508342-post85.html]See”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064508342-post85.html)</p>
<p>Mifune, are you TokenAdult’s son? That would make a lot of sense.</p>
<p>Decision: Waitlisted</p>
<p>Stats
SAT I (breakdown): 2300 (800 Math, 780 CR, 720 Writing)
SAT II: 800 Math II, 800 Physics, 790 Chemistry
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): 5x AIME, 3xUSAMO, 1xUSChO, 1xUSPhO (Physics not Philosophy)</p>
<p>Subjective
Essays: My commonapp essay used a UChicago prompt about games as a starting point for a “stream-of-conciousness” reflection on my time in high school. The headmaster welled up when he read it but I think one would need a better background knowledge of my life for it to have a full effect. The Princeton Supplemental essay was good by my standards but for the general pool it was probably quite weak (I’m not a good writer)</p>
<p>Teacher Rec (Sciences): I don’t know, we had a fairly substantial argument (about the best way to solve a particular linear algebra problem) the day after I asked him to write it.
Teacher Rec (Non-Sciences): I don’t know
Comp Rec: Quite Effusive
Additional Rec (Music): Amazing</p>
<p>** Ethnicity **</p>
<p>Race: White (Italian)
School Type: Large Private school, sends about 12 to HYPSC each year on top of 65 to Oxbridge.
Location: UK</p>
<p>** Awards and Positions **
ASCAP Mourton Gould Award (National music award), now x2 although I got the second one on April 1st so it had no effect
5x Hall Cup for Composition Winner
Awarded the Gowers prize for top Mathematician in the school
House Captain
House Music Captain
House Academic Captain</p>
<p>Results
Accepted: Caltech, Trinity College Cambridge (Maths), Brown, Juilliard, Reed.
Waitlisted: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, UChicago.
Rejected: None</p>
<p>** Reflections **
If it’s not in the cards, it’s not in the cards. I never did anything specifically for my application anyway. On a less downer note, I think I did really well and I’ll be attending Caltech next fall!</p>
<p>Choose One:
Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 1900, composite. LOW.
[</em>] ACT: -
[<em>] SAT II: 720, 750, and I can’t remember the 3rd
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): top 5th
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: 4 AP Classes, In-School Internship, + Auto Tech</p>
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Multicultural Club (President), NHS, SNHS (officer), Key Club
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: KMart, 6 months.
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: too much to list.
[</em>] Summer Activities: Work?
[<em>] Essays: One was the “person who has influenced you the most” and it was about my older brother who was a Marine and passed away and another was about the first time I drove a car.
[</em>] Teacher Recommendation: One was beyond wonderful, the other was really good.
[<em>] Counselor Rec: I didn’t see it.
[</em>] Interview: It went well but not amazing. I mean, he was friendly and I think he liked me.
[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): NJ
[</em>] School Type: Magnet
[<em>] Ethnicity: Chilean and German
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Income Bracket: less than 50k
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): first generation
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[<em>] Strengths: My essay and my transcript
[</em>] Weaknesses: SAT scores, MAJORLY
[<em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I have no clue. I think they were just feeling generous.
[</em>] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Fordham, TCNJ
[/ul]General Comments: Shock.</p>
<p>DECISION: ACCEPTED</p>
<p>Objective:</p>
<ul>
<li>SAT I (breakdown): 2330 (790 CR, 800 M, 740 W)</li>
<li>ACT: 35 (Don’t remember individuals, 10/12 on writing supplement)</li>
<li>SAT II: 700 Chem, 760 M2, 750 on the Critical Reading one (was it called English Comp?)</li>
<li>Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0 (cannot exceed 4 at my school)</li>
<li>Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Valedictorian</li>
<li>AP (place score in parenthesis): Calc AB and BC 5’s</li>
<li>IB (place score in parenthesis):</li>
<li>Senior Year Course Load: Took every AP class at my small, rural school. AP’s are Calc AB, Calc BC, AP Stats, AP English, AP Chemistry, also a French Class at local Community College</li>
<li>Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Merit Finalist (Semi-finalist at the time), U. S. Senate Page School Highest Honors, Academic All-Conference, Youth Rotarian, Various other local awards for little things.</li>
</ul>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<ul>
<li>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Big one for me is United States Senate Page (promoted to Floor Page) in Spring of '09. Also, Young Democrats (3-year Prez and Founder), Teen Court (3-year Prez), Member of two Jazz Bands for Alto Saxophone (1st Chair), Member of Show Choir, Varsity Football (Senior Squad Lifting Captain), Varsity Wrestling, Math Team, NHS and Key Club, Church Group.</li>
<li>Job/Work Experience: I put U. S. Senate Page here as well, as it was a salaried job. Also was a “Young Ambassador” for my City’s Chamber of Commerce.</li>
<li>Volunteer/Community service: Various things, organizing for Political Campaigns, working in Nursing Homes, Tutoring, “Volunteen” at a Hospital, no real focal point to this section.</li>
<li>Summer Activities: Training for Athletics 3 days a week from 6-10 AM M-W-F. Hosting an exchange student from France, working as a Young Ambassador, seeing the world (I put it a different way when it was asked).</li>
<li>Essays: Wrote a great one about working back from crippling leg surgery in Middle School to start for my Football team as a Senior, and an average one about how important a role donuts play in recruitment to our Young Dems group</li>
<li>Teacher Recommendation: From Math Teacher at Senate Page School (they don’t let their students see their Recs, but they’re supposed to be fantastic), From French Teacher I had in a College Course I took.</li>
<li>Counselor Rec: Great</li>
<li>Additional Rec: From my Senator</li>
<li>Interview: Late in the process, over the phone, went well. Obviously a little awkward though, since it was over the phone.</li>
</ul>
<p>Other</p>
<ul>
<li>State (if domestic applicant): Wisconsin</li>
<li>Country (if international applicant):</li>
<li>School Type: Small, rural public</li>
<li>Ethnicity: White</li>
<li>Gender: Male</li>
<li>Income Bracket: No need-based Financial Aid</li>
<li>Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): What is URM? Only hook is that I’m from a small town, I guess.</li>
</ul>
<p>Reflection</p>
<ul>
<li>Strengths: U. S. Senate Page (there are only 60 each year who work and attend school there), leadership, reasonably good scores on tests. Also, well-rounded.</li>
<li>Weaknesses: I don’t have a good school I’m coming from, My 2nd essay could have been better. Volunteering could have been better, but my schedule was pretty full.</li>
<li>Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
I thought I was very Well-Rounded (with Athletics and ECs) and also had good leadership roles.</li>
</ul>
<p>*General Comments:
I applied to HYPSC, was accepted to Yale ED, Princeton, and Columbia (Legacy), and was waitlisted at Harvard and Stanford.</p>
<p>Accepted</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>]SAT: 2400
[</em>]SAT II: Math II - 800, Chem - 800, USH - 800, Bio - 770
[<em>]GPA: 4.6
[</em>]Rank: 1
[<em>]Other Tests (AMC, AP, IB): Chem, Micro, Macro, USH, Calc BC, Bio, Eng Lang: 5
[/ul]Subjective[ul]
[</em>]Essays: Very good, but not amazing.
[<em>]Recs: Same as essays
[</em>]Interview: Pretty good, one or two awkward breaks, but prob one of the top 3 of mine
[<em>]Supplementary Material: Research Paper
[</em>]Summer Activities: 2 years of Sci Research, Boys State, Research internship camp, CTY
[<em>]Hook(recruited athlete, legacy, Nobel Prize): Research and US Trail Orienteering team
[/ul]Personal[ul]
[</em>]Location: NJ
[<em>]High School Type: Public
[</em>]Ethnicity: See username
[<em>]Gender: M
[/ul]Other[ul]
[</em>]Extracurriculars: Orienteering, Tennis, MUN, Mathletes, Academic Team, etc
[<em>]Awards: Siemens Finalist, NMS Finalist, Coca-Cola Scholarship Semifinalist, Samsung American Legion Finalist, some other state/national stuff
[</em>]Accepted: Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Dartmouth, UPenn, Cornell, MIT
[<em>]Waitlisted: Brown
[</em>]Rejected: Yale (deferred early), Stanford
[*]Advice? Commiserations? Feel like bragging?: Summer research def helps. Gratz to everyone who got in and good luck to waitlisters! =] Tough choice between Harvard and Princeton, but prob leaning towards Harvard. [/ul]</p>
<p>Out of seven 2400s here, looks like I’m one of just two to get rejected.</p>
<p>112358, quick question:</p>
<p>Why didn’t you apply to a few more Ivy league schools?</p>
<p>You probably would have gotten an acceptance by several of them by now, including H/Y.</p>
<p>So will you attend WashStl now?</p>
<p>Rejected…but at least I’m not the only deserving person:
[YouTube</a> - Hitler gets rejected from college](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w3YJjdXZBM]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w3YJjdXZBM)</p>
<p>I don’t know Princeton’s stats, but when my cousin applied to Columbia (last year) they bragged they only accept 1/3 of their 2400’s. So don’t feel so down about it.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>No, I am not. I moved to Minnesota only eight months previously. I have read that conjecture before, but it is merely lighthearted guesswork.</p>
<p>**Decision: Accepted **</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown):M 790, W 750, CR 740 (Superscore)
[</em>] ACT: 34
[<em>] SAT II (if submitted): Math II 800, Chemistry 780, U.S. History 780
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 1/600
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): US History (5), Biology (5), Chemistry (4), European History (5), Language (5), Statistics (5), Senior Year Micro/Macroeconomics, Government
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: Very, very hard full senior schedule with a couple of independent studying for AP tests and junior/senior level college courses at state university
[li] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Merit Finalist, NCTE Writing Award, a lot of awards in national debate and national business organizations (DECA, BPA)</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): President of NHS, State President of Business Organizations, Science Olympiad, Varsity Tennis, Debate, Band, 5 year graduate of prestigious undergraduate math program
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: 3 major internships in strategic marketing and sales, radiology, healthcare management, run own tutoring business (15 students), worked as media promotion specialist for websites and startup company
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: over 500 hours at local organizations, religious organizations
[</em>] Essays: I thought they were each tailored to match the schools personality. Nicely polished.
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: Didnt read them but I expect that they were substantially well written based on my close connection to the teachers who wrote them for me.
[</em>] Additional Rec: I sent in three additional recommendations from my NHS advisor, my college math professor, and my college chemistry professor.
[li] Interview: I think the person thought I was quirky and funny.</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
[</em>] Intended Major: Economics
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): Midwest
[</em>] Country (if international applicant):
[<em>] School Type: Public Large
[</em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[<em>] Gender: Female
[</em>] Income Bracket: Upper Middle Class
[li] Hooks (URM, first generation college, research, etc): Unique combination of business with hardcore math and science? I dont know
</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[<em>] Strengths: I sent in a video of a local news station profiling me which revealed my ability to communicate effectively
I think this helped me become remembered by Admissions.
[</em>] Weaknesses: Sending application in after the priority deadline.
[<em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Im just really glad I was accepted!
[</em>] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Accepted: Harvard, MIT, Princeton, Vagelos LSM Program at University of Pennsylvania, Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins BME Program, Washington University in St. Louis, University of Minnesota, Rice; Waitlisted: None; Rejected: Stanford</p>
<p>[/ul]General Comments: Congrats to everyone else!!!</p>
<p>Well, it wasn’t really lighthearted. Perhaps I made the guess with a sense of hope that I might have found an explanation, or at least an additional data set, for a perplexing phenomenon. But not lighthearted. </p>
<p>Common definition for lighthearted would be carefree, happy, blithe. Carrying a related image of dancing through something like a meadow, chasing something like a butterfly.</p>
<p>Rejected.</p>
<p>Oh well, it’s all over with.</p>