OFFICIAL saturday PSAT discussion

<p>heard at our school that psat scores will be out in one week - note today's date is 11/09 - WOW - that is early!!!</p>

<p>Did anyone else get a letter from Long Island University that said.."Because of your outstanding score, you have been considered for the National Merit Scholarhip program and have many colleges and universities interested you..." Any comments on the validity of this?</p>

<p>what? they've graded our psat tests already? no way</p>

<p>what would my score be
Best scenerio
CR: Missed 5 Omit 2
Math missed 1
Writing missed 5</p>

<p>Worst scenerio
CR:Missed 10 Omit 2
Math missed 3
Writing missed 9</p>

<p>Best
M 78
CR 69
W 73
Index 220</p>

<p>Worst
M 71
CR 62
W 66
Index 199</p>

<p>just my guess</p>

<p>Even though I don't remember the exact questions, here are my two cents on the writing questions:</p>

<p>Poker one: E
Jackson Administration One: D (Loans of the surplus doesn't sound right)
One with "To a Degree" and "Indeed": C. To suppose it changeable sounds awkward. I thought it should be "To suppose that it is changeable." Could be E, no error, though.</p>

<p>There also should have been about 3-4 no errors on the Sentence Errors Section</p>

<p>Fish one on Critical Reading: I don't think any of the answer choices were that the fish was rare, but I could be wrong. I remember an answer choice about the fish needing to be preserved, but I'm not sure.</p>

<p>R.I.P. Ol Dirty Bastard</p>

<p>Mel, did your score report come in yet? (It's been a week!)</p>

<p>obviously not.</p>

<p>For the Jackson Administration question, I believe it was E, no error. Loans of the surplus seems a little awkward, but a quick google search for "loans of the surplus" revealed the following phrase in a 1994 Social Security Report:</p>

<p>Yet as far as the Social Security trust
fund itself is concerned, it has just as legal a claim on the U.S.
Treasury for the interest and repayment of the "loans of the surplus" as
any individual who holds U.S. bonds in this country.</p>

<p><a href="http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:jzSSMxhj8CYJ:www.ssa.gov/history/reports/94finalhouse.html+%22Loans+of+the+surplus%22&hl=en%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:jzSSMxhj8CYJ:www.ssa.gov/history/reports/94finalhouse.html+%22Loans+of+the+surplus%22&hl=en&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I did think that saying "to suppose it changeable" was awkward and chose it... though I've been trying to hash out a real explanation as to why it would be considered incorrect... I have difficulty finding the use of "to suppose it" in google followed by an adjective without some use to be.... but I did find "to make it changeable"....if "to suppose it changeable" was correct, then I would expect the answer to have been E.</p>

<p>Then again.... suppose as used in the sentence is an intransitive verb, whereas make as I used it is transitive.....</p>

<p>Our principal says it should be around the 2nd week of December when the school receives them.</p>

<p>NikeSwooshGuy, Your link checks out. However, did you notice the context of funds of surplus in the article? A Southern senator is using it. No offense to Southern senators or anybody from the South, but peoples' grammar in a heated senate debate is not likely to be very good. Americans are known to have some of the worst grammer in the world. Besides, this is the only search result that checks out. I think "surplus funds" would sound a whole lot better. I could be wrong, though.
The last question still confuses me. I think it is "C", like what you put, but I'm not sure. It might be "E". Who knows?</p>

<p>I've been talking with several very bright individuals who say it is, to my dismay, E. I just submitted it to a site as a grammar question, we'll see how that goes. If anyone here does get their answer sheet back, would they be so kind as to resolve this?</p>

<p>Ok....I've emailed a prof about the "to suppose it" question and he replied:
"The original sentence is grammatical, and your rephrasing would be as well. The original uses a construction that now seems rather dated, but it isn’t fully “dead” yet. Your rephrasing renders it more modern. I hope this helps! – Bill Spruiell"</p>

<p>Well, that resolves that question. That was hard and most people who took that test got it wrong. This must mean there were 4 No Errors for the Identifying Sentence Errors Part in the Writing Section. The other three were the poker question and two other questions that were obviously No Errors. The Jackson Administration question was NOT, that's right, NOT a NO ERROR. It had to be D. Googling "loans of the surplus" does not turn up any documents that have that phrase. It should have been surplus loans.</p>

<p>man, i made this thread ages ago. i can't belive you guys are still talking about the friggin psat. move on dudes! i can't even remember more than a few questions now. but there's no point to try to remember them anyways.</p>

<p>Do all school get results back at mid-december? I heard someone say in a week and I also heard from people I know that they'd get them back during January.</p>

<p>I disagree with saying "surplus loans". Saying "surplus loans" implies that the loans were "surplus" (additional or unnecessary), whereas "loans of the surplus" correctly describes that the loans were composed of the surplus.</p>

<p>Actually, you are right. However, the sentence may be wrong for a different reason. You can authorize loans of money from the surplus, you can't authorize loans of the surplus. Besides, the phrase loans of the surplus does not turn up anywhere on Google except for that one spot you mentioned. This is my final post and I've decided not to post anymore because there is nothing more to be said about this test. What's done is done and we'll get our answers back in mid-December.</p>

<p>TemporaryUser- I think all schools get them back at the same time, but they don't all send them out right then. So you might get them in early-mid December, or your school might wait and then you won't get them until January.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/psatextra%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.collegeboard.com/psatextra&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Will list all the answers to the PSAT soon...</p>