<p>I totally agree with the saving money attitude. Sometimes students do not understand the future impact of college debt and how that will affect their daily living. My S did actually get a lot of money from Union but I would still encourage him to go to another school if it was as good and cheaper.
I am not sure if I am sold on going to an ivy for premed - they don’t give much merit aid if any, and where in the class curve would you fall in an ivy classroom? If you still want med, GPA is imp. and someone in every class in every school has to fall in the bottom half. Sorry…that’s a rant for other threads but something to consider for some of our students on this thread here to consider if and when they get accepted to multiple programs/schools.</p>
<p>Texaspg brings up a great point about finances and the nature of most BsMD programs as they mostly have undergraduate schools that most applicants are not considering primarily. These privates cost a lot even with the merit scholarships when compared to going to state school or elite private that gives great aid. That’s is my way of looking at it. If I were to hypothetically get into a BsMD at amc or other mid tier one with so so undergrad I would not go because it would paying a lot (35+) for a undergrad that is not what I want. Instead I would go to unc or a good state school or private If I get in and apply med regular route. That is why I only applied to rice and browns programs cause I. Love their undergrads Alot as well as the med school guarantee. I wanna be a doctor but spending a lot of money on most private combined programs is not feasible for me when compared to normal routes</p>
<p>That’s why applying to a larger number of public BSMD programs is wiser than applying to all of the privates because you will be paying a higher rate at both the undergrad and MD levels, even with a scholarship. Although GW may have been a better undergrad experience than Stony Brook, I sure am happy now knowing that both my undergrad and med schools will total 1/3 of the total cost of GW’s program.</p>
<p>Has anyone heard anything from the FAME Program?? I know 2 people that got an interview notification today. I didn’t get one, and I already wasn’t given an invitation to apply for the GAP Pittsburgh one. Things are not looking good :(</p>
<p>@TheBombingRange
That is an excellent piece of advice. Even though it mostly makes a difference if you live in that same state as the school, the 10-15k automatic drop in price for out-of-state students is still something, especially if one is planning on paying all that money for a BS/MD.</p>
<p>The way I would categorize the different BS/MDs by priority:
Elite BS/MDs:
-Rice/Baylor, Northwestern one, Brown PLME, WashU USPM</p>
<p>Other Private School BS/MDs that offer good money (either in automatic aid or scholarship) and come out to be affordable for low-middle classes w/o loans:
-Miami HPME, BU 8 year program</p>
<p>Public Schools (beneficial for mostly in-state but also for out-state):
SUNY, ECU?, Stony Brook, all the other public schools ones</p>
<p>Other Privates:
-AMC for Union and etc?</p>
<p>This is just my list as I am a middle class and it is primarily based on cost probabilities. Maybe people can copy the list and add more info that they know about and we can create a humongous running list of the programs we all as a group are applying to and categorize them?</p>
<p>^
BU SMED is typically a 7-year medical program…also I would not categorize it as a place that “offers good money” to those in the program. </p>
<p>@TheBombingRange applying to those public BS/MD programs seems great until you look at the out-of-state tuition prices in the medical school years lol. Your in-state schools/programs are the best bet. (That’s why I envy those from Texas…)</p>
<p>@matrixsurgeon: I generally agree, but going to a public school for much less money is more of a priority for some people than going to somewhere like Brown or Rice for much more. Thus, I don’t think it’s correct to make a <em>general</em> list by priority (you did say that the one above is your personal one, so no criticism there, I’m just making a suggestion), but we can just keep a running list of the different types of schools by category. I would add Case to the Elites. Also, BU (it’s a 7 year) is very expensive and their merit actually isn’t that great-- in my opinion it should belong under other privates. </p>
<p>For example:
Elites: Rice/Baylor, Northwestern, Brown, WashU, Case Western
Privates w/Good Scholarship: U Miami
Public Schools: Stony Brook, Rutgers, TCNJ, U Pitt
Privates: RPI, Union, Siena, BU, Villanova, Drexel</p>
<p>I haven’t seen any private BSMD programs that give fantastic merit, even though everybody in the program is a fantastic and deserving student. Even in my program there are monetary discrepancies with scholarships. I agree with the OOS med. school costs but it is still lower than private med school costs. If I remember correctly when I was applying for NJMS’s programs last year I found out they have the most expensive OOS med school in the country at 60 a year, so every other OOS school is lower than that. Something to think about for the next few months when acceptances roll in.</p>
<p>And yes, I envy the BSMD kids who are in Texas for the establishment of so many programs with some great med schools.</p>
<p>Sorry for the double post, but there is a complete list of programs at ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ for those looking to compare stats/costs/MCAT and GPA reqs.</p>
<p>Thanks, matrixsurgeon for starting the list.
Adding UMKC:
Elites: Rice/Baylor, Northwestern, Brown, WashU, Case Western
Privates w/Good Scholarship: U Miami
Public Schools: Stony Brook, Rutgers, TCNJ, U Pitt
Privates: RPI, Union, Siena, BU, Villanova, Drexel, UMKC</p>
<p>Brown4 - FAME is specific to Texas (only residents) while GAP is national with many applicants across the nation. They are not necessarily comparable in terms of selection process.</p>
<p>However, I have seen people postulate that FAME and PACT show regional biases within Texas. What part of the State are you in? Did you get a rejection or have not received any notification?</p>
<p>Right, U Pitt(GAP) should be under elite/private category.
Below are my addition with a merit scholarship info.</p>
<p>Elites w/ competitive UG merit scholarship: Rice/Baylor, WashU, Case Western, U Pitt, Baylor/Baylor
Elites with financial aid only: Northwestern, Brown,
Privates w/Good Scholarship: U Miami
Public Schools w/ UG merit scholarship: Stony Brook, Rutgers, TCNJ, UTD(PACT)
Privates: RPI, Union, Siena, BU, Villanova, Drexel, UMKC</p>
<p>Elites w/ competitive UG merit scholarship: Rice/Baylor, WashU, Case Western, U Pitt, Baylor/Baylor
Elites with financial aid only: Northwestern, Brown, Rochester
Privates w/Good Scholarship: U Miami
Public Schools w/ UG merit scholarship: Stony Brook, Rutgers, TCNJ, UTD(PACT)
Privates: RPI, Union, Siena, BU, Villanova, Drexel, UMKC</p>
<p>For anyone who paid their drexel supplement, do you guys know if its mandatory to upload the photo in the second part? I didn’t know that would even be asked before I logged in.</p>