<p>There appears to be a double standard for admissions at UF. Some races don't have to work nearly as hard as others to gain admission. Aside from this being unfair and unconstitutional, it leads to an interesting paradox: Those who don't have to work very hard to get in must work extra hard to stay in.</p>
<p>Some around here refuse to accept that race plays a major role in the admissions process at UF. But either it does or it doesn't. Obtaining the complete statistics (except, individual identities, of course) of the application pool would settle this once and for all. But my guess is that because race is used as a selection criterion, the only way UF will divulge this information is by process of law. Anecdotally, though, the picture can be pieced together a little at a time.</p>
<p>FYI FLBoy, I'm white, and you're completely wrong. If there was a selection for "Jewish" on my application I doubt that would have helped me either.</p>
<p>Just so you guys know, the guidance counselors at my school have been looking into the statistics of who was admitted to UF. It turns out no one outside of the top 15% of the class was admitted, despite the fact my school does not release our class rank statistics. In a sense, there is a suspicion the applications from our school were lined up and the best were picked from our school, though there were plenty at my school that could, and in some cases should have gotten in if they attended any other high school. Again, theoretically.</p>
<p>For comparison, my rank (again, not released to UF) wasn't even in the top 30% because my school is so full of Ivy caliber students. If I was in just about any public school, many would say I would definitely make the top 10%. So the top 15% at my school is, what, the top 3% at a typical public school, if that?</p>
<p>A new UF admit gets a $200,000 education for only $12,000. In addition, being a UF student/alumni will provide connections, networking opportunities, and internships & job opportunities.</p>
<p>UF's admissions is damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Both sides of the isle have a good point.</p>
<p>In my high school (large public high school) I don't think anyone was admitted with under a 1300 sat and 4.1 gpa. Keep in mind that in public schools there are a lot of competitive students also. We had several national merit scholars and I know several people who scored over 1500 on their SAT. Many people from public schools are Ivy League material, also. Our senior class has 600 students.</p>
<p>Does yours have over 15 NMS students with more than half the class size? This greatly increases competition if class rank is used. In a way, it looks like a possibility that UF created an artificial system of getting some kind of rank from us.</p>
<p>dvm258, actually, if there were a box for Jewish, statistically it may have helped you. The percentage of students at UF who are Jewish is extraordinarily high compared to the general population. </p>
<p>PS: Maybe you can explain to me how one can be "completely wrong" when words like "appear" and "some" are intentionally used, specifically trying to avoid the use of absolute terms?</p>
<p>Our high school ranks students on unweighted gpa alone. So if a student in all regular classes has a 4.0 (straight A's) and a student in all honors and A/P classes has made one B over the 4 high school years that 4.0 student in regular classes is ranked higher. Unfair....but they feel colleges will rank students with weighted gpa's.</p>
<p>Checking off a box for Jewish would actually hurt your admissions chances. The percentage of Jewish students in top colleges is greater than the percentage of the population. It's the same thing with checking off a box for Asian.</p>
<p>I know an in-state student who is a National Hispanic Scholar w/ 1470 on the SAT, GPA over 4.0, in top 15% of a very competitive Senior class who did not gain admission to UF. On top of this the student is the oldest child of a large Floridian family and has great EC's. In addition to taking a heavy AP course load, this student has worked part time all through high school. </p>
<p>I don't think this soon to be college freshman will be crying the blues since they received an offer of a full tuition scholarship including books & room for 4years to a well respected OOS university that is recruiting national merit/hispanic scholars heavily just as UF has in years past. But, I hate to see great Florida students leaving, who really wanted to stay in state. (The scholarship offer wasn't accepted until admission decisions were made public by UF). </p>
<p>But after reading all the stats of students who were not admitted to UF and many who were, I must say the admissions criteria seems extremely random,
as if names were being drawn out of a hat. I wonder if UF will ever come to the realization that their admissions process has great potential for error. If they were consistently getting the best that Florida has to offer (as I have heard so many arrogantly state), FSU would not have the only student in the state to be a Rhodes Scholar in the last round! That should make inquiring minds wonder...</p>
<p>"There appears to be a double standard for admissions at UF. Some races don't have to work nearly as hard as others to gain admission. Aside from this being unfair and unconstitutional, it leads to an interesting paradox: Those who don't have to work very hard to get in must work extra hard to stay in."</p>
<p>The admissions process (or anything in life) will never be "fair." Even if we reward merit only, there are things that we can not get credit for, even the less obvious ones such as economic status.</p>
<p>What exactly do you mean they don't have to work as hard?</p>
<p>Maybe other races work as hard (or harder) but can not attain the same achievements. </p>
<p>It is not because of their race that some students are admitted, but rather because of their background and the events in their lives. </p>
<p>I'm also suprised that someone with your background (as your described in one of your previous posts) would have the views of an elitist. As someone mentioned before, it seems that disadvantage person that should ever get a break. </p>
<p>Also, the GPA+SAT score formula is not the only measure of success during college or life.</p>
<p>My school is the largest public school in the country. It has about 5000 students with about 1250 in my senior class. So I know what you mean dvm. One of my friends who didn't get in called UF and apparently they told her that if she went to another school, she would have most likely been accepted.</p>