<p>@Wharton2020 Wont double major be very difficult? Have you checked engineering management?</p>
<p>@sep2015 oh yea I forgot about that. Stanford MS&E is the next best thing (or better depending on what you want). Keep in mind that M&T is a double major so if you think a double major is difficult, that’s what you’re going to be doing in M&T. So if you are considering a double major at Penn, you can also consider a double major elsewhere.</p>
<p>UPENN c/o 2019 Facebook Page is Up! <a href=“UPENN Class of 2020 Applicants Page | Facebook”>http://■■■■■■■.com/oojutsg</a> </p>
<p>Sorry about the last URL, this one works.
Class of 2019 UPENN Facebook group: <a href=“UPENN Class of 2020 Applicants Page | Facebook”>http://■■■■■■■.com/oojutsg</a><br>
its a ■■■■■■■ version to keep it from blocking it like the one above lol </p>
<p>Yeah, we need more people on the Facebook group! Compared to the UChicago and Stanford applicant groups we are severely lacking. Not that I’m competitive or anything. 
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<p>@Wharton2020 M & T is a coordinated dual degree and hence will be easier than doing double major at other places. Where all are you applying and what course?</p>
<p>Hi everyone! I’m still deciding between Princeton SCEA and Penn ED, so I don’t really consider myself as an ED applicant yet! Anyways, I’m from Northern California and Penn has been my dream school since I was in elementary school. I’m planning on applying as a Linguistics major to the College of Arts and Sciences and I was thinking of maybe doing a gap year studying abroad/deferring my admission by a year (assuming I get in, of course). </p>
<p>Good evening from the Northeast! Up until a few hours ago, I had been dead set on Princeton Single Choice Early Action. However over the past few weeks, Upenn has been growing on me more and more, and I have realized that Wharton is perfect for what I want to do in my life. Looks like I’ll be going early decision after all!</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Hello! I am applying RD for physics. I would go ED but I have been planning something for a few months that won’t be complete until November and I think it will significantly improve my app. I still wanted to join this thread however, because I really love Penn and love the idea of having a forum in which we can all endure the struggle together XD</p>
<p>Applying ED for SEAS and the people that are applying to Wharton are kinda scaring me</p>
<p>@physicsisphun15, if you want to do ED, you should apply ED instead of waiting to apply RD. You get a significant boost that way. If you are rejected ED, I can almost guarantee you would not have gotten in RD. If you are not rejected ED, you will be accepted or defered which would mean you would be considered again in the RD round. If you happen to be deferred, you are encouraged to send updates for your application.</p>
<p>hi guys, i’m applying ed to CAS. does anyone have any idea how much being a double legacy, with your dad working for penn, would boost your application? p.s. good luck guys </p>
<p>@empanada it would help a lot</p>
<p>If your parent is a respected faculty member or the equivalent at Penn, you will most likely be accepted since there is a financial incentive for them to do so if your parent is receiving a tuition benefit from Penn. Since it covers significantly more than if you were to go to another school, many faculty members would be unhappy if Penn were to reject their child if they were reasonably qualified. Faculty children are given a higher preference than several other schools like Chicago and I think Vanderbilt since they give the same tuition benefit regardless of what school a faculty kid attends. This gives them less of an obligation to accept faculty kids and also encourages them to go elsewhere so the campus isn’t filled with fac brats.</p>
<p>Any other internationals on this forum? I am a Canadian citizen who was born in France but who now lives in Belgium. </p>
<p>I’ve been debating about which school to ED for awhile, and finally after much deliberation I have placed Penn as my top choice. My mom went to Penn graduate school (Dentistry) not the undergrad. Would they still view that as a legacy? I mean I guess it’s a legitimate connection, but whether they value graduate alum legacies the same as undergrad. alum legacies is my question. I don’t really expect an accurate answer as I don’t think any admissions officer will be answering, but your personal opinion would be appreciated. </p>
<p>I am very much aware that legacy only helps to a certain extent (say I was neck and neck with a prospect student and that other student didn’t have a legacy, I might have an edge on them). I’m just curious, and I know that if I’m a qualified student with or without a legacy then I have a chance to get in. </p>
<p>With the supplemental essays, is starting off with a short anecdote on my current interest and then explaining why they match what Penn offers okay? Or should I just dive directly into “Why Penn”? I guess this questions is pretty arbitrary and more related to essay writing style. I just don’t want Penn reading the essay to think that the first intro paragraph was a waste of time and that I should have just started with the second one. (I know, some of you guys are probably thinking “Who cares! Just write it!” I think I worry too much about everything 
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<p>@K1Helen in terms of legacy, I think that you are considered as one (I don’t think grad vs. undergrad matters). In terms of your essay, I think that your idea of an anecdote is fine (as long as you aren’t repeating info). For example if you like a specific program at penn then it makes sense to show an aspect of yourself that fits with the program and then talk about the program.</p>
<p>@Wharton2020 Thank you for your input! </p>
<p>Hi guys!! This is my first post on here but I am glad that it’s on this thread! I can’t wait to be a UPENN student but I have questions that I was wondering if some of you guys can answer. First off, I know that PENN puts a lot of emphasis on the essays but if I had a SAT 2100, would that hurt my chances? Also, Im involved in a lot of community service and projects but was not able to win the president election for NHS 
Does not having that leadership seem really bad esp. when I lost?? Thanks for your guys time!!</p>
<p>Penn will look at the overall strength of your application. An SAT of 2100 is below the Penn average of 2200, but there are definitely students at Penn with lower scores than that. </p>
<p>Losing an election is not a negative, in my opinion. I think that colleges want people who are willing to try something and are not afraid to fail. It shows initiative.</p>
<p>The Admissions Committee is interested in finding candidates who are impressive overall, after considering grades, difficulty of schedule, SAT scores, essays, achievements, extracurriculars community service etc. Being weak in one area is just a factor in the overall assessment they are trying to make. </p>
<p>Having said that, if you improve your SAT score, it would probably improve your chances of being accepted by strengthening your overall application. </p>