Oh man, another prospie??

<p>'Fraid so. </p>

<p>I zapped my app off a few days ago. Do I stand a chance?</p>

<p>School Type: public, large (3,800)
Location: Southern California
Race/Gender: Female, Caucasian
Prospective Major: Spanish Language and Lit./Pre-law
Unweighted GPA: 3.88
Weighted GPA: 4.7
Class rank: 17/715</p>

<p>SATs- 2050 - 690 M // 660 V // 700 W (12 essay)
SAT IIs- 720 Spanish (w/o listening) // 670 Lit</p>

<p>The rest:
Full-IB student
California Scholarship Federation (4 years)
Speech and Debate (4 years; 2 years MVP, Best Individual Event, Competitor at National level)
Fencing (10 years experience, 2 weapons; 3x Junior Olympics)
School Board Rep, PTSA Rep, School Site Rep for Student Council
Organizer/Founder of Multiculturalism Month
London Academy of Musical and Dramatic Arts Diploma
Volunteer at CSUSM Barahona Center in Children's Spanish Lit. (100+ hours)
Volunteer at hospital as candy striper//leadership <a href="500%20hours%20by%20application%20time">President</a></p>

<p>If [hell] nay, then where?</p>

<p>GPA/Rank is good, but SAT & SAT II's are a bit low. Good community service. Are instate, so good shot, but UC;s look mostly at numbers because they have so many applicants. The acceptance rate is 24%, so I would say that it is a slight reach for you, but good luck. UCLA or UCSD would be matches for you I think.</p>

<p>What do you think the mean SAT will be on the 2400 scale? Kaplan released Cal's being around 2030/40, and UCLA as slightly higher.</p>

<p>I think about 2100</p>

<p>You seem to be in a good position, and if you took AP tests to supplement your IB tests, you might end up with about 60 units or so.</p>

<p>UCLA is more selective than UCB. And UCB has higher average SATs.</p>

<p>On what are you basing that, gospy?</p>

<p>UCLA was more selective than Berkeley last year by 1%. Yes, while UC Berkeley admitted a generous 26%, UCLA, being the oh so selective of the two, admitted 25%.* </p>

<p>My goodness! What is happening to Berkeley?! Admitting more people than UCLA?! What?! The shock?! Guess what, UCLA is beating us by 1%?! <em>FAINT</em></p>

<p>It's 1%...not too much "more selective."</p>

<p>*Note: Statistics, (+/- 1%)</p>

<p>Wait a minute. Although UCLA admits one percent fewer applicants than Berkeley, it also gets far more applications. If the same number applied to both schools, UCLA would have to admit a larger percent to fill its class. Would a more selective school have higher or lower overall test scores? Well, you would think higher, and you'd probably be right (as the trend is that way). UCLA admits a slightly smaller percentage of its applicants from its larger pool, but the people that end up going have lower average test scores than the Berkeley students. Unless of course you are reporting that the acceptees have higher scores, not the people who end up going. But you did not specify.</p>

<p>Also, there is self selection involved behind the percentage accepted. Some have UCB or UCLA as a dream school, so they apply there, but not the other. And some would apply to UCLA but not Berkeley because they figure that they couldn't get in, wouldn't want to go, or some other reason. It seems that this is more true of Berkeley than UCLA, as many think it's a desireable place to be (as the application numbers show).</p>

<p>*Note statistics are exact. They know how many people they admitted... or at least I hope they would.</p>

<p>But, I do have to agree that a lot of people do apply to UCLA even if it is a huge reach because they would love to go there, and it may not be exactly the same for Berkeley.</p>

<p>*Note statistics are not exact. They know how many they admit, but it's not exactly 26%...probably 26 point some odd percent. Because 26% of some population will give you 2/3 of a person of some sort.</p>

<p>26%>25% no matter how you round.</p>

<p>By the way, I should clarify that it would give you 2/3, 11/12 or whatever of a person...just not a whole person. Unless the number admitted was perfect for 26%, which is unlikely.</p>

<p>And again, a 1% difference in selectivity is not too spectacular in the larger scale of thing.</p>

<p>UCLA - 24%
University of California Berkeley - 24% </p>

<p><a href="http://collegeapps.about.com/od/rankings/a/u_acceptance.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://collegeapps.about.com/od/rankings/a/u_acceptance.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Evan: What year is that from? Because I spoke to Walter Robinson, Director of Undergraduate Admissions here at Berkeley, and he said that Berkeley's acceptance rating for Fall 2005 was about 26% and UCLA was 1% less.</p>

<p>GH: with your stats you may qualify just about anywhere you want. Hope you try.</p>