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undergrad is not even important anyway
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<p>I find that my undergrad still comes up in conversations with employers, internships, and people I meet. It may not be the most important factor, but it does matter. Plus, a good undergrad is probably a better breeding ground for top grad students.</p>
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being an average student at a top university is easy
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<p>I dunno...I think engineering majors at Stanford might take you to task on that one...;)</p>
<p>If you are of "average intellect" that means you've gotta try that much harder. Cheating will ALWAYS come back and bite you in your a** when you least expect it. I know a guy who went through high school with top grades, cheated through most of the papers, exams, homework, tests--everything. When he applied to college, he got screwed by the high school (they knew he was cheating, but didn't want to kick him out because he was paying lots of $$$ to go there) and now God knows where he is. </p>
<p>Of course there are people who always cheat and never get caught = scum of society. They will however pay for it sometime in their life. Lies require bigger lies to cover up.</p>
<p>stanford has grade inflation then...which means you still have to score higher than an A- in your classes to get into a good grad school O.o
edit: or probably just the average people in stanford r bright and don;t cheat =D</p>