<p>SweetiePi, have you thought about what would happen if you decided to change majors?
Penn is obviously the clear choice with top departments across the board in that respect.
Pick OSU if you really feel like Penn won’t fit you though.</p>
<p>If money is an issue then I would pick tOSU. If not, go to UPenn.</p>
<p>Penn and OSU are not the same type of schools when comparing sizes. The undergraduate population is 10,000 at Penn vs 39,000 at OSU.</p>
<p>Penn is much more selective at 13% admit rate vs 66% at OSU.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.upenn.edu/ir/Common%20Data%20Set/UPenn%20Common%20Data%20Set%202011-12.pdf[/url]”>http://www.upenn.edu/ir/Common%20Data%20Set/UPenn%20Common%20Data%20Set%202011-12.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://oaa.osu.edu/irp/publisher_surveys/IRP_2013_Survey_Main.pdf[/url]”>http://oaa.osu.edu/irp/publisher_surveys/IRP_2013_Survey_Main.pdf</a></p>
<p>Both Ohio State and UPenn are large. But I would bet you will have a better quality of advising at Penn.</p>
<p>There are fine faculty at Ohio State. However, nearly all land grants have had cutbacks in recent years and so it is less likely that you’ll have much time with an actual faculty member who can guide you as an undergraduate. In contrast, UPenn has not had those financial problems and you will get more attention, particularly since you have a prestigious scholarship.</p>
<p>I see you have a scholarship for the full cost of attendance at OSU. Are you an Eminence Scholarship winner? If so, your advising will be top notch, and you will be a star at OSU. At Penn you will have more competition, because ALL of the students are great. It also depends on your major and if you are planning on pursuing an advanced degree, but if you are an Eminence Scholar, I would not hesitate to recommend OSU.</p>
<p>Is the full cost of attendance scholarship the Eminence Scholarship?</p>
<p>Yes, I received the Eminence Scholarship.</p>
<p>I am interested in your response since I also received that scholarship. I just sent in my deposit yesterday, but am still thinking about UMich and Notre Dame</p>
<p>Why would you have sent in a deposit? Aren’t all costs covered? I think only notification is required.</p>
<p>any more opinions out there?</p>
<p>Vagelos carries prestige within Penn. Remember it’s 5 courses per semester instead of the usual 4. Not everyone who starts stays in. There are 3 hospitals at Penn. You’ll hear sirens depending on where you live.</p>
<p>I’m curious if OSU attempted to sell you on accepting the Eminence, because I would think that would be a great opportunity. Did they lead you to believe that you would be given special attention at OSU?</p>
<p>I went to Penn And loved it - best wishes in your decision OP</p>
<p>You would be crazy not to choose Penn.</p>
<p>I was given a tour by current Eminence Fellows. They were very nice and highly praised the program as well as their program advisor. I also received a letter from the president where he expressed that Eminence Fellows “enjoy a unique educational experience.” The students told me that there would be extra advising and exciting internship opportunities.</p>
<p>“I also received a letter from the president…”</p>
<p>Please remember that this is the same man who was afraid that the ex head football coach would fire him! LOL</p>
<p>I don’t know if Vagelos scholars and eminence fellows are at the same level.</p>
<p>I know two Vagelos scholars from last year - Both were National AP scholars, National Merit Scholars, top 2% of very competitive high school, 2350+ SAT scores etc.</p>
<p>I would definitely choose Penn. It has a smaller student body and provides more opportunities to undergrads than OSU - you can find a professor at Penn to assist with research or conduct your own research, which certainly looks good to med schools.</p>
<p>As an Ohio State student, I know that being an Eminence Fellow at OSU automatically sets you apart from the other undergraduates on campus. I know some of the fellows in the Class of 2016 and many of the science, pre-med majors were able to get a research position within weeks of stepping foot on campus. This mainly happens because they are Eminence Fellows and professors really want those students working in their labs. </p>
<p>As part of the program, the fellows also get a faculty mentor for the next 4 years of their career. Most of the mentors are the top professors in that students’ major, as well. Thus, you’ll get personalized attention and advising. At a large university like Ohio State, this a unique opportunity that only some students get when they are about to graduate. </p>
<p>Although Ohio State does not necessarily have the same prestige as a university like Penn, there are numerous opportunities to take advantage of, such as conducting research at the Wexner Medical Center and becoming involved in some really great, innovative student organizations. </p>
<p>Since you’re an Eminence Fellow, I think that you will honestly get a pick of the top opportunities at Ohio State. And many of the top students at Ohio State who are pre-med do get accepted to top medical schools. Recently, the 2 presidents of the student organization I am part of were accepted to Harvard Medical School and Johns Hopkins. As part of the Eminence program, I also think you’ll have the opportunity to pursue prestigious national fellowships, like the Truman and Fulbright, which many of the students at OSU who attend Harvard or Penn Medical school received.</p>
<p>And, although Ohio State has a large population, it honestly feels like a community. You will probably even get more of a community feel with the Eminence program, since there are a very select few who have received the scholarship.</p>
<p>I cannot speak on the behalf of other universities, so this is just my opinion based on my experiences at Ohio State. In the end, it is really about where you feel most comfortable and where you feel you can be most successful. Congrats on all your success and I wish you the best of luck when making your college decision!</p>
<p>I would like to follow up on 95mm’s post. I think he/she summed up the advantages of going to OSU very succinctly. In my experience with another public university, these advantages trump an Ivy. My daughter has had many experiences being a star at a public, that we know she wouldn’t have had at the Ivy she REALLY WANTED TO ATTEND, because she was given first dibs.</p>
<p>Something to think about. Please let us know what you decide.</p>