<p>In reference to confidentialcoll: I just think that you need to recognize that you are in a very fortunate situation. The fact that people are on this site shows that already they are more concerned than the average applicant, perhaps more emotionally involved. Particularly now during such a difficult time when many are having to choose where they are going to pursue higher education and having their dreams turn into realties they did not foresee, inevitably emotions are going to run a little higher. The fact that we write on the internet does not make comments easier as their intention cannot be properly perceived. I just ask that you remain conscientious and conscious, as previous commentary has seemed to tease and been terribly pugnacious.</p>
<p>stanford09, the official Columbia class of '13 facebook page is open only to admitted students. I don’t want to disclose the facebook posters name because I’m sure she doesn’t want it bandied about on this website.</p>
<p>My intention is clear, you can always twist what I say to have your feelings hurt. I’m not going be extra-cautious, to pander to the hyper-sensitive.</p>
<p>to back up concoll</p>
<p>at no time has he insulted waitlist students directly and so though I can understand students feel upset in this case and even annoyed at his gloating - it certainly doesn’t mean that wishing him poorly is the right way to get your message across. it is childish and in fact reduces the import of the concern.</p>
<p>@fenton - similarly those on here are probably most concerned with numbers and stats (with good and bad intention).</p>
<p>i think that yes numbers can preempt the real and the personal sometimes and people point to numbers too quickly at times, but as someone who would not have a problem calling concoll out if i thought he was being insensitive, i really think that y’all have taken him out of context.</p>
<p>this is a board of columbia people and prospective columbia folks - there is a divide there that i think similarly prospies have to be cognizant of this fact as columbia folks think about who might read. it is ‘our’ school and we do have some right for gloating and pride (so long as it doesn’t border on obnoxious). but none of what concoll said was insulting or demeaning - i am sure there are other people on this board who would be a lot less forgiving than he. imagine C02 digging deep into waitlist kids.</p>
<p>***!!! Is this true? NO waitlistees…I find that hard to believe. Even Harvard takes people of their waitlist.</p>
<p>Admissionsgeek, His comment was not “insulting or demanding,” it was simply cheap just like both of you. None of you have any “right for gloating and pride.” Only worthless people try to justify their extra "right"s in terms of the schools they attend or the level of prestige they have.</p>
<p>Moreover, on one of the threads I recently read something written by a Columbia alum. He said that just like everywhere, at Columbia one will find people who they will be friends with, people who they will not like much, and also people with whom one would never want to have anything to do with. I will leave you enough room to guess which category you belong to.</p>
<p>it’s entirely conceivable that there could be no waitlist activity. apparently columbia accepted 200 more people than last year yet only expanded enrollment by 50 places. Last year, they took ~150 off the last, so if the yield has stayed roughly the same then there should be no offers or only a handful.</p>
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<p>you just have sour grapes because you’re on the waitlist. A lack of waitlist activity gives us a good reason to be happy, and should give people on waitlists at other schools a little reason to be more optimistic. I am especially happy because I spent many hours convincing dozens of admitted students to accept Columbia’s offer and our collective efforts seem to have paid off well.</p>
<p>I have no sadism or malevolence towards waitlistees whatsoever. It’s not that we have an “extra - right”, we’re just happy about a statistic and have the same right as anyone else on here to post it. You, on the other hand, are being tyrannical by saying we can’t post, and being a bad loser by calling us cheap for posting. Likewise, the girl on the facebook group is also not malevolent towards waitlistees, understand the connotation.</p>
<p>Well, you completely missed the point. I never implied that you dont like waitlistees. All I said was that being in the state of extreme excitement because of petty statistical data makes your statements and you in general look cheap. And no, I never said the girl on facebook is “malevolent towards waitlistees.” I would never call her cheap either, unless she shows the same level of unjustified, low, and conceited attitude for being admitted under a single digit acceptance rate. I can be sure that none of you stated on the application that you wanted go there because of numbers; no wonder so many of you infiltrate the school.</p>
<p>although i hope this rumor is false, i still love my options. but i spent a lot of time on that statement LOL. :(</p>
<p>^^ Stanford09, you clearly haven’t read any of my posts and from this post you clearly haven’t even read the friggin thread. I’m a junior at Columbia, I didn’t choose it because of the numbers and the numbers don’t matter directly to me at all. They matter to a lot of other people, to the press and to the future of Columbia and so I am happy that they are improving relative to competition. I’m not in a state of extreme excitment, but I put in a lot of work to improving/maintaining Columbia’s yield, and collectively we Columbia students, who devoted time to selling admitees on our school, have seen our work pay off. My happiness and sentiment is 100% parallel to the girl on Facebook’s.</p>
<p>okay i understand stanford - i have been following your posts and to be honest i have noticed that these past few months have really seemed to take a toll on you with many posts here showing exasperation and frustration. if you think i am insensitive to this well you really haven’t paid attention to my posts.</p>
<p>in fact, you didn’t really read my last post did you? on one line i can say that someone who is proud of their school has a right to gloat (so long as it doesn’t border on obnoxious), and then i also say that we columbia posters ought to be aware of the potential audience. especially on a waitlist thread when it may upset students who are especially anxious. after considering even my own standard of decorum, i still think that concoll was not being a jerk particularly as he was more so being interested in the numbers than the individual and that he was given a bad rap. i know many are disappointed at the presumed announcement (i guess we have to wait for columbia to respond for real), but i think that as columbia folk on here we have two hats we are wearing - the first as people helping out students and also as people who are proud of columbia, as non-columbia affiliates you are only having one hat as a disappointed applicant. so the situation here is more complicated and i would appreciate to some degree an understanding. ultimately i would ask, if the situation were flipped would you not be proud of your university? i imagine as much, we are emotional people and loyalty and pride are certainly passions we indulge in from time to time - i am sure you are proud of your accomplishments and at some time have been proud of something you have been associated with, it is only natural. i can say as an interviewer i am torn by the fact that there were great students i liked who were not admitted, but i am very proud in this tough year that columbia did well. but as a columbian i only hope that columbia gets better even if that means ultimately that the university gets to a point that not even i could be admitted. (i hope you understand the tenuous nature of our pride, it is in fact about us hoping that we no longer are the standard, it is a negative desire). i am sorry that you got caught in the cross hairs, i wish you well in your life and that you indeed show us wrong and do great things.</p>
<p>I called them today and they said that they wont have any information on whether the waitlist will be used until after a week or so. Someone else says they called and they said they will not use it. I do not get this.</p>
<p>In situations like these, I think the proper response is always “I’m sorry if your feelings were hurt. That was not my intention”. Having said that, I have read enough of confidentialcoll’s postings here over the past months to know he appears not to be a dick. Maybe not tuned into all of the emotions in play amongst the 17 yr olds here on CC in this case, but not a dick.</p>
<p>I got on the waitlist! =)
Better than getting rejected from Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Any other inter-ivy transfers here?</p>