Orientation-Placement Tests

<p>Ok, so the placement tests take place during the orientation...I've been admitted as an Undeclared Engineering major. Which placement tests do I have to take? And which (if any) APs exempt me from any of these exams that I have to take?</p>

<p>So far I've taken only 2 AP Tests:</p>

<p>Lang - 3
Chem - 5</p>

<p>I'm going to take:</p>

<p>Lit
Govt
Physics C
Spanish Lang
Calc AB</p>

<p>Thanks for the help!</p>

<p>As Undeclared Engineering, you'll be taking Math, Physics, and Chem placement exams regardless of your AP scores. Foreign language matters only if you're going to major in computer science.</p>

<p>Once you get your AP scores back, then you could possibly get the following exemptions/substitutions:</p>

<p>Chem - With the 5, you should be able to upgrade from CHEM-105a to CHEM-115a instead.</p>

<p>Physics - 4 or 5 should upgrade you from PHYS-151 to PHYS-161. If you get this upgrade, DO TAKE IT! The prof for 161, Bickers, is ranked as USC's best professor under Senate Course Guide...and I hear he really is good. The prof for 151, Gould, should be ranked as worst professor ever.</p>

<p>Calc AB - 4 or 5 should get you out of MATH-125.</p>

<p>lol...Is there a ratemyteacher.com type thing for colleges?</p>

<p>And for the Physics, would you recommend to me to take the E&M section? I don't plan on taking it because my teacher doesn't want to go over it in detail (he has a reputation of being one the the nicest teachers but he can't teach the material).</p>

<p>Yeah, there's a sister site to ratemyteachers...it's ratemyprofessors.com.</p>

<p>But USC has it's own unique site, <a href="http://www.senatecourseguide.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.senatecourseguide.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p>

<p>And I took Physics B, not C, so I can't answer your question on that. Sorry.</p>

<p>Thanks for the replies redski.</p>

<p>Btw, I'm checking out senatecourseguide...and people generally LIKE gould, lol? Am I missing something here? But anyway, assuming you've taken his class...yeah.</p>

<p>Actually, I'm not in Gould's class; I'm in Johnson's, who's not on the site. But Gould did sub for him a few times and it was not fun at all.</p>

<p>Beammeup has Gould, though. And I have friends in that class who say he's a terror.</p>

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Physics - 4 or 5 should upgrade you from PHYS-151 to PHYS-161. If you get this upgrade, DO TAKE IT! The prof for 161, Bickers, is ranked as USC's best professor under Senate Course Guide...and I hear he really is good. The prof for 151, Gould, should be ranked as worst professor ever.

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<p>How about Physics B? Will it do anything?</p>

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Calc AB - 4 or 5 should get you out of MATH-125.

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<p>What about BC? I'm taking BC this year after taking AB, and I'm just wondering if I can get any more "exemptions."</p>

<p>Physics B might also get you the upgrade to 161. What happens is you take the placement exam and then your advisor is the one who makes the judgement whether you are capable of taking 161, in which case he will sign the form to let you take it.</p>

<p>And Calc BC can get you out of MATH-126 as well.</p>

<p>I know a guy who took physics B and then 161. Apparently the part of the class on rotations was tough, since the B exam doesn't go in-depth enough in rotations and rotations/statics are a huge part of 161. But otherwise it was OK I think, so it's possible I suppose if you did really well on phys B/calc. If you're in doubt you can email Bickers and he'll help you decide.</p>

<p>Hey redski59, what year are you in right now? and what's your major?</p>

<p>Bickers looks cool. I was watching one of his prerecorded lectures before.</p>

<p>Is there a site that just tells you what classes you'll get out of? I went to a USC site that was kind of like that, but it just says 3,4,or 5 will get you a credit... which doesnt help me. I want to know what classes i'll be exempting out of</p>

<p>Seriously, this is the best thing you can probably get online: <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/ARR/articulation/apexams.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usc.edu/dept/ARR/articulation/apexams.html&lt;/a>. Regarding classes like math or physics, you're just going to have to call the department offices.

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Hey redski59, what year are you in right now? and what's your major?

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Sorry for the late resp, didn't see this earlier. I'm a 2nd semester Freshman majoring in Industrial and Systems Engineering.</p>

<p>Hey thanks for the AP info.</p>

<p>Maybe we should start a thread regarding USC professors. :)</p>

<p>redski-I already seen that before but i don't know what classes i'm actually getting out of.. it just says 4 sem units... i wanted to know if USC had something like this....</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ou.edu/admrec/app.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ou.edu/admrec/app.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>i guess not, right?</p>

<p>^ Yeah, I know exactly what you're looking for, but those guidelines don't seem to be anywhere on a website or that sort; as I said, call the department office for that subject and they should know off the top of their head.


lol, good suggestion.</p>

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redski-I already seen that before but i don't know what classes i'm actually getting out of.. it just says 4 sem units... i wanted to know if USC had something like this....

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<p>The reason they don't have one is because it would confuse the hell out of everyone. Each department/school makes their own decisions on what to waive and what not for AP exams, and waivers are granted on a case-by-case basis with your department advisor. The only absolutely guaranteed credits from AP exams are the ones that give you GE and elective credits, which is the site redski posted.</p>

<p>So, for example, you would get out of MATH 125/126 with a 5 on the calc BC exam, if you were an engineering major, you could get out of a different class if you're business, etc.</p>