<p>I was reading a Newsweek 2002 on college and it said that Michigan had about 14800 out of state applications and admitted less than 2300 of them. That comes out to a 15 percent acceptance rate. I would think that the number of applications have gone up and the number of available seats has stayed the same, at about 30 percent. </p>
<p>Even though the applicant pool for the ivies is much more competitive, does that mean they have the same acceptance rates or did I make a mistake somewhere.</p>
<p>well i know its much more selective for out of state, but i didnt realize how much more. The admissions rep who came to my school said that both have equal chances (smooth, huh) because in-state kids had a lower yield rate than in-state or something like that. The US news acceptance is like 48 or 52 percent or something, so that means that out of state is very tough and in state is relatively easy?</p>
<p>i don't think it's THAT hard to get into mich from out of state. the admissions officer at UNC said their own out of state admit rate is 17% and UNC is one of the hardest to get into from out of state. I believe around 18% of the UNC student body is from out of state whereas michigan's student body is around 30 something percent out of state.</p>
<p>That number you have is terribly inaccurate. The TOTAL number of applications last year was only 21,261, so there is no way there were that many out-of-state applications.</p>
<p>Pman, Michigan is very selective for out of staters and the pool of applicants that apply to Michigan is similar to the ones at Cornell, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern etc... in terms of quality. But Michigan is much larger and accepts more of them. </p>
<p>As for the 15% acceptance rate for out of staters, it seems possible. Back when I applied in 1991, the acceptance rate for out of staters was 30%, but times have changed. The caliber of the students at top universities is not changing, but acceptance rates are dropping.</p>
<p>When we attended the information session last spring, they were very clear that the admissions rates and criteria were the same for in state and out of state applicants. It balances out, however, because the out of staters do not matriculate at nearly the rate of the in staters. Now, they could be lying but I doubt that.</p>
<p>Compscidad, if Michigan told you that their admissions rates and criteria were the same for in-state and out-of-state applicants, they lied to you. Although Michigan is not infinitely more selective for out of state students (as are UNC and Cal), they are still significantly tougher on out of staters.</p>
<p>I was just at U Mich. They made no such statement to our group. They said it was twice as selective for out of staters but did not give out any actual useful numbers as all figures given were actual seats they have rather how many they accept, and I did not call them on it. They are limited by some state reg to have only 30% out of staters, and they were nailed pretty hard for slightly exceeding that percentage one year, so they are careful about that. I know UVA admissions runs about the same way.</p>
<p>I think the number you are referring too has to do with the number of out of state students that enroll, not the amount of out of state students who are admitted.</p>
<p>No way is it that difficult (15% admittance rate) to get in from out of state. If that was so, I wouldn't be sitting here in Ann Arbor typing this to you.</p>
<p>It's not 15%. It's more selective than for instate students, but not THAT much more selective.</p>
<p>And yes, they admit many more nonresidents than residents, because a higher proportion of nonresidents will say "Thanks, but no thanks" due to the expense, and due to having a wider variety of other options.</p>
<p>The admissions officer was a little off--there is no state regulation about how many nonresident students can be enrolled. What is true, however, is that state legislators don't like it when the number gets too high, especially when their in-state constituents complain about how their kids didn't get in. And in some years, they have tried to make this an issue when it comes to state funding. So U-M has an interest in keeping the nonresident numbers at a certain proportion, just to keep everyone happy and to be good stewards in serving the people of the State.</p>
<p>As I understand it, Michigan aims for a general proportion of undergrad nonresidents that's about 1/3.</p>