<p>Does anybody know if any of these schools are good with aid/are known for it?</p>
<p>University of Texas, Austin
University of Alabama
University of Georgia</p>
<p>I'm a California resident</p>
<p>If you are talking about need based FA, the 2 schools that are known for treating OOS and IS students the same are UVA and UNC-CH.</p>
<p>If your SAT/ACT scores are high and your GPA is also, you will find the merit aid at 'Bama very favorable.</p>
<p>What are your stats?</p>
<p>How much will your parents pay?</p>
<p>Just curious - why would a resident of California, which has the largest and most prestigious public university system in creation, be looking at public universities elsewhere?</p>
<p>A good reason to go elsewhere: a generous merit scholarship. If your family earns over 100K, you won’t get much, if any, financial aid at a UC or Cal State. Unless you can commute, you’ll be paying the whole enchalada. So, if your stats are high, you can get a much better deal at OOS schools known for merit. If your parents’ income is low, however, and your stats are decent or high, that’s another story.</p>
<p>My brother says that neighbors and friends tell him that it’s $30k a year to live at a UC even with in state tuition. Other state schools might come out to be a little bit more, but offer more in terms of what is often considered a “typical” college life. Several of those kids attending in his circle are either transferring to an OOS school or are going to a local school as they have decided that it is not worth the cost to continue given the quality of life there. These are not the kids at the best known UCs, but the lesser known ones.</p>
<p>A dear friend’s student recently graduated from Cal State Chico, and it was a $25K a year tab for her. </p>
<p>Here in NY, the state school tuition is low but the room and board is high compared to many other areas, though not, apparently CA. We’ve modeled our state system in that way after CA’s as well, it seems. But the thing is, if you go t SUNY Buffalo or a number of other SUNYs, not so close to NYC, after freshman year, prospects for cheap housing off campus is very good and there is a strong push to go off campus with many students doing this, making for an active “on the economy” group. Though I was not happy about my son making this move as early as sophomore year, given that he got great housing at the university, the cost differential in his case was huge. He had a small on campus meal plan, but he seemed to do fine making food for himself and took a job at a cafe to augment that expense. The problem I am told, is that CA does not have such cheap alternatives to living off campus.</p>
<p>I did not address the OP’s question as I got off course with the CA state schools thing. </p>
<p>It all depends on your stats as to what you might get from an OOS school. As for financial aid, most all state schools do not meet financial need, even for their own residents, and you are definitely at a disadvantage coming in as an OOS applicant. My cousins’ son, for example, who did have need, and was a competitive, though not top prospect at his schools, did get some, but not all need met at his state in state schools, and only got loans, which are available to him where ever he should go, at the OOS schools of similar caliber. His cousin, with similar stats got a better financial aid package from her instate school, to which he applied as OOS, but really not a whole lot more, but he basically got zilch.</p>
<p>If you check the websites of public universities, many will address OOS eligibility and some have special OOS scholarships. I know that U Missouri did at one time, and SUNY Buffalo also did. Often merit money is awarded for strictly that, but when it comes to true financial aid, look at the numbers of need met, and you’ll see clearly that these schools are not even meeting need for their own.</p>
<p>Depending on your EFC, and need figure as calculated by most PROFILE schools, and depending on your student stats like test scores, grades, class rank, you might do better with private schools that tend to meet full need, over state schools. Also, if you are a transfer, which I am suspecting you are with your “name”, getting financial aid is a tougher situation. Transferring to an instate school might be a better option, maybe a Cal State. My friend who has had kids at both UCs and Cal States, including transfers and has known many kids at both, being a CA resident feels that the social life and atmosphere were better for her kids and their peers at the Cal States. Santa Cruz, particularly is geared more towards certain types, and may not have the best atmosphere for those who do not like that vibe.</p>
<p>I think it is important to note for the OP the difference between “financial aid” and scholarships. They are not the same. </p>
<p>You will get little to no financial aid from OOS publics other than Pell Grant (if you are eligible) and Stafford Loans. Publics have little other financial aid to give and what they do have goes to in-state students whose families pay taxes in that state. And that is how it should be. </p>
<p>As others have noted you may get scholarships at certain OOS publics depending in your grades, test scores, etc. The stats needed for these scholarships are usually available on the college web sites. They are trying to attract the very top students so the requirements are usually high.</p>
<p>I just noticed from another thread you ate a transfer student. This changes things a bit. Many scholarships at OOS publics are available for Freshman only, not transfers. Very, very little help for transfers.</p>
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Since when does prestige matter? ;)</p>
<p>If you are a transfer student, you can’t hope to get any aid from those schools except for the minimum student loans…and a Pell Grant if you qualify for that (EFC under 5000).</p>
<p>Public U’s charge a high OOS price for a reason…it wouldn’t make a lot of sense for them to then just cover the cost with need-based aid. If so, why bother charging a high OOS cost??? (UVA and UNC are the only publics that give great OOS aid…but since you need high stats to get in, one could argue that their aid is somewhat merit-based.)</p>
<p>*Just curious - why would a resident of California, which has the largest and most prestigious public university system in creation, be looking at public universities elsewhere?
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<p>Many find OOS publics to be cheaper than the UC system. Calif is ranked #8 in sending kids to UAlabama. With a NMF, Presidential, or UA Scholar scholarship, attending Bama is much cheaper than a UC. That said, there are also a bunch of full-pays from Calif attending Bama. Those kids wanted a big-football school and didn’t get into UCLA or Cal…and at full price, Bama is not much more than a UC.</p>
<p>UT is certainly not in the same “costs less” category. A preliminary search online will show that.</p>
<p>*I got into Chico State, Azusa Pacific, Sonoma State, and UC Santa Cruz. I chose UCSC because it was the best school I got into. My mom had some health problems and I had to drive home every weekend. Ended freshman year with a 2.08 (( </p>
<p>My moms better now and I want to transfer out of state because CA’s budget is awful…I’m a current CA resident from sacramento. I’m going to a local community college to work and get my grades up. But I want to transfer to these schools for fall 2013 so please help an give advice!</p>
<p>Univ of Nevada, Reno
UC Davis
Univ of Arizona
Boise State University
Univ of Alabama
Univ of Georgia
Chico State
Univ of Texas, Austin
Texas A&M
Ohio State
Louisiana State Univ
Univ of Virginia
Univ of Colorado, Boulder
I know some are a stretch but I have good writing skills for a personal statement*</p>
<p>None of those OOS publics would work except UVA, but that’s very hard to get into from OOS.</p>
<p>What is your EFC? Did you qualify for Cal Grants and/or Pell Grants? If so, then you need to stay in Calif publics so that you’ll get adequate aid.</p>
<p>Getting money as a transfer student is very difficult. You can give it a try, but make sure you have some affordable options lined up that are sure things. I’m glad your mother’s better.</p>
<p>Can you commute to any California public university? That is really your best deal in terms of getting money. What is the amount that you and family can pay? My friend’s daughter had a wonderful 4 years at Chico State and has found a good job coming out from there. She would recommend it to anyone.</p>
<p>I got $13K for the year from the cal grant but that’s only for Cali schools. I qualified for all loans and got a grant and scholarship from UCSC. My I graduated with a 3.83 gpa in high school, did lots of extracirriculars, but my SAT was 1600 even but I don’t really wanna take it again. I have great writing skills and what I think I have overcome a lot of hardship/diversity so that may help with the scholarships. I also have great letters of rec from volunteering and my internship at a Muesum (I’m a history major)</p>
<p>I have always wanted to get out of state and yeah tuition may be higher, but with loans I think I may be paying the same </p>
<p>I’m on a single parent income and she makes $55K a year. My mom for sick this year and I had to drive 3 hours to and from home, so I’m going to a local CC this year and transferring for either spring 2013 or fall 2013</p>
<p>My counsler made it sound like I need to pick/focus on one school and I’m just so confused/overwhelmed with my options at this point</p>
<p>Thanks for everyone’s quick responses!!!</p>
<p>Oh oops…my EFC was around like 6/7K</p>
<p>AND I was accepted into Chico for fall 2012, but went to UCSC. Big mistake! I’m currently in the process of writing a letter of hardship to get in for spring 2013 to Chico. But I was denied for fall and with the budget cuts the counsler there told me it depends on numbers and was likely to be denied again :(</p>
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<p>Gotta ask…why was it a BIG mistake? Yes, UCSC has a “feel” that is perhaps different from other places, but there are lots of students there for lots of reasons. Finding others with similar interests, etc. should be possible.</p>
<p>Did you withdraw from UCSC? If not, are you planning to return there for fall 2012?</p>
<p>Chico would have been cheaper and the same education and they have an amazing teaching program which I might want to go into.</p>
<p>I have withdrawn yet but my counsler at UCSC told me I have till the day before the first day of school to do so</p>
<p>Although your counselor is wrong about focusing on applying to only one school, most of the schools on your list would be a waste of time and app fees. </p>
<p>You need to go to a Calif school, because as a transfer student, those are what will be affordable. Why not go one more year at UCSC, and apply for a transfer to Chico for Fall 2013?</p>
<p>The admissions counsler I was working with at Chico said if I came from a CC my chances would be higher to get in because if I was at UCSC I’d already be at a 4 year university as compared to being at a 2 yr and they favor CC transfers as do most schools I’ve heard. And I just personally don’t like Santa Cruz haha</p>