Out-of-State Chances...Please :)

Colleges and Universities A-Z College of William and Mary
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<p>Hey everyone...so how hard is out-of-state admissions? I've heard its as bad as top ivies...Any thoughts on my chances? Thanks!</p>

<p>--Basics--
School: Large Public in TX (sends about 25 of 760 to prestigious colleges)
GPA: 3.8/4.7
Rank: official: 73/760, but I transferred schools, so my counselor will include an addendum with an adjusted, unofficial rank of 15/760 (i got screwed over when they tried to equate my freshman year grades)
IB Candidate</p>

<p>SAT: 2320(780M, 760CR, 780W)</p>

<p>SAT IIs:
US: 780
Bio M: 750
Math II: 730</p>

<p>APs:
US:5
Art History:4
French Language:3
Human Geo: 5
Environmental Science:4
English Language:5
Bio:5</p>

<p>--EC's-- (school year)
Club Div 1 soccer 4-12 (intense:lots of awards including state+regionals)
Varsity CC+Track 9-11
Varsity Debate 10-12 (school ranks #1 in country by NFL)
Young Dems 10-12 (President)
FNHS 10-12
Elected to Student Council 12 (only important b/c I transferred into a large school after freshman year, and I didn't know anybody at that time) I am also currently running for class VP
Co-founder of Non-Partisan Politics Umbrella Club (over young dems and repubs) 12
On city's Student Board of Directors of Fed Reserve Board 12</p>

<p>--EC's-- (summer)
Shumei International Institute (last summer+this summer)-volunteering
Assistant at a Psych practice (this summer)-volunteering</p>

<p>--Work--
Soccer field painter 8-10
Tutor 12
Congressional Campaign intern 12</p>

<p>--Non-athletic awards--
nothing special...
will be national merit semifinalist
national french contest awards
debate tournament awards</p>

<p>--Misc--
-I take the hardest classes possible: my junior year i took AP US History, AP Art History, AP French IV, AP Human Geo, Pre-AP Pre-Cal, AP English III, AP Bio, Honors Debate, and TOK. This year: Pre-AP Physics, AP Calc BC, AP Micro, AP French Lit, AP Comp Sci, AP English Lit, AP Gov, H Debate, and TOK.</p>

<p>Thanks again!!!!!!!!!</p>

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<p>you left out male/female...</p>

<p>but I think regardless, you have a very good chance.</p>

<p>I'm slightly confused how you are an IB candidate (which IB history are you taking?), but regardless of that, you are definitely in the most demanding schedule possible.</p>

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<p>female... :/ does that ridiculously lower OOS acceptance rates?</p>

<p>we are an IB/AP school, so IB diploma candidates are in all AP classes but are given more work. I am testing in economics and human geo for the social science group.</p>

<p>ahhh i cant wait until April to know!!!!!! :) i am pretty worried about being an OOS female :/</p>

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<p>Well, they do take some, you know, and you have an excellent record! If you haven't submitted the app yet, make sure your essay is as strong as possible - the essay is of great importance at W & M. And be sure to do the optional submission, as well. Good luck!</p>

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<p>Good chance.</p>

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<p>you seem very qualified, i got in with not nearly as high test scores or ec's.</p>

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<p>It is challenging for OOS, but you have good qualifications and they take into consideration if you have transfered in high school. Do the optional submission and be creative -- Stand out -- think out of the box and show them who you are. Not everyone can show themselves clearly through writing an essay.</p>

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<p>my son was just accepted to W & M yesterday for early decision .... now I'm worried that we should have tried for an Ivy (Notre Dame) is W&M really "all that"???</p>

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<p>Yes W&M is all that.</p>

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<p>Notre Dame is not an Ivy. Not to say that it is not a fine school.</p>

<p>But if this is an early decision program, as opposed to an early action program, it's a moot point: your decision is made.</p>

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<p>Very good stats, and EC's - Debate/MUN are valued at W&M. Excellent chance. </p>

<p>I noticed the 'regionals' on your soccer resume - if you're planning to play in college, you may want to consider contacting the coaching staff; even a partial scholarship can help with those OOS tuition bills.</p>

<p>debbs - sorry, but it <em>sounds</em> like you're saying "Well, it can't be that great a school if they accepted <em>my</em> son." ;)</p>

<p>Nothing against ND, but they're technically not an "Ivy League" college. And if he applied EA to W&M, I'd assume he had good reasons for doing so. In any event, for the important things, esp. quality of instruction, he hasn't compromised a thing.</p>

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<p>debbs, your son applied where he did for a reason. Obviously he liked W&M the best out of the schools he was applying to. And yes, W&M is amazing.</p>

<p>also, please feel free to start a new thread, so you don't send this one off topic. =)</p>

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<p>sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread ... oops I knew Notre Dame isn't an Ivy, I meant to say ND and the Ivy he applied to ... pure vanity on my part for him to attend ND .... okay no more from me :) carry on ...</p>

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<p>:) its okay</p>