Outrageous attendance policy!!!

Bad news: in the wonderful world of adulthood, attendance counts. You have to show up.

I have to be at my job by 7:40 am.-- and that’s after I get 3 kids up and out the door to school, load the dishwasher, feed the dog and do whatever else has to get done. Oh, and we have a dress code.(Remember pantyhose? I spent $100 on them last month.) And I can’t bring a cup of coffee to class. And I’m expected to be on time and prepared. And I’m expected to do work from home-- I just got home at 6, got dinner on the table, did the dishes, and did some schoolwork.

Welcome to the big leagues.

It looks like you have two options:
-attend the class

  • drop the class.

^AKA “adulthood”!

Honestly I don’t know what you’re whining about. This is pretty standard across schools and not surprising. The only thing that’s causing me to raise my eyebrows is the “no exceptions” policy. If excused absences (like illness or death in family) fall under this category, then I would be annoyed. But otherwise this policy isn’t unreasonable.

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My point was that students at commuter schools are more likely to have outside obligations like full-time jobs or children, not that commuting is a hardship in itself. I’m guessing, however, that “no exceptions” doesn’t really mean no exceptions. It’s just to discourage lying.

I think this policy is understandable for the lab portion of a class, though. I don’t think professors should require attendance, but there’s often a good reason to give assignments that can only be completed through attendance. When the OP said “lab science class,” I thought the attendance policy also applied to lectures.

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I have to agree with (most of) the above posters, that this policy makes sense as long as “excusable” absences don’t penalize you (e.g. doctor’s note, family death).

In that case, just show up so that the policy doesn’t affect you. If you decide not to show up a bunch, better to just drop the lab.

Presumably if you’re sick and you email your GSI or Professor ahead of time they’ll let you go to a different lab to make it up or something.

I was a science major, and this is standard fare for a lab class (at least in my experience). If this was a 300 person lecture class, then I would say that’s pretty strict but not necessarily outrageous. But for a lab class, I’m not at all surprised.

My department also had a rule that if you missed the first class you were dropped, and the drop deadlines were also different for lab courses (you had until the second class, I think, to drop without a W, rather than until the end of the fourth week of classes like you did for every other course). Lab classes are often in high demand. Different majors may require the class, but space is often severely limited because you need more space and equipment to accommodate a small number of students in a lab class. It’s not quite the same as cramming hundreds of students in a lecture hall. You need a lot of materials and space for lab classes, and as such, they can’t afford to have students who can’t manage to show up to class on time when there are lots of students on the waitlist who would jump at the chance to be on the class so they can graduate on time. It’s often a premium spot, and they want to make sure it’s put to good use.

Also, regarding the amount of absences allowed, I think it’s pretty generous to allow one free, no-questions-asked absence. That’s huge in a lab class. In labs, you can’t really make up the work (or it’s very difficult to do). If you miss part of the lab, that’s it. You often can’t do that part because you only get so much time in the lab. You have to move on to the next part of the lab or you will be behind forever. It’s not like other more “typical” lecture courses where you can borrow notes or read the textbook or go over slides and catch up what you missed on your own. At least at my school, if you missed a day, you missed that part of the lab (often forever with no chance to do it), and it was a huge headache trying to figure out what you were going to do about it. Experiments could often last multiple days, so if you missed one day of class, then your entire experiment was a goner. It’s a big deal to miss a lab class. Don’t miss one.

As for unexpected things, like a funeral or a serious illness or a car accident–for most students, these won’t be an issue and they will be able to make any class. The one allowed absence is for the random time you had transportation issues or was sick or whatever. I would argue that for the vast majority of students that will be more than enough. For students who do have really unfortunate situations where they have to miss class, they will likely be able to discuss this with the professor and come up with a plan. The plan may be to take an incomplete or to take a medical withdrawal or some other solution. The no “exceptions” is likely to ward off students trying to come to the professor after the fact saying I was sick and in bed or I had this other situation that I wasn’t able to talk to you about until after the fact (that may or may not be true). True situations that require missing more than one class will of course happen to some students (like being hospitalized or having an immediate family member pass away) and you can still work it out with your professor. The answer might be having to withdraw from the course or there might be a way to resolve the issue. But it’s really difficult–if you can’t be in the class for multiple days, then you will miss a lot of the work. And you’re often graded on your lab work, as well as your knowledge of the material. So as unfortunate as your situation might be, there’s not a lot they can do about it if you can’t be there.

I’ve had friends who have had unexpected medical emergencies that resulted in hospitalizations, doctor-ordered bed rest, or an inability to go to class. They all took incompletes or withdrew for medical reasons in courses that they couldn’t otherwise finish. I’ve had family members pass away while I was in school, and each time, I missed one day of class (even though I was flying 2500 miles away) because I had to be in class. It happens, but you can’t exactly build your entire course policy around every student having serious or multiple unexpected emergencies every term. Especially in a class where it’s really hard to make-up absences. I get that things happen, but for most students, they should be able to get to class.

It’s a perfectly reasonable policy EXCEPT the part about being dropped from the course. I doubt the prof has that right. Usually a student can’t be dropped from a course unless they’ve violated certain parts of the student Code of Conduct. And, students have the right to fail a course.

Edit: Ah, I see In prior comments how some schools have waitlist and drop policies that permit a non-attending student to be removed from the course during the first weeks of class. Learn something every day.

@dyiu13 here is a description pulled from a course description:

I just pulled that from the WS obviously but you’ll get the same thing in other depts. Why should your place in a class be kept if you can’t even bother to show up?

There are always “exceptions”; the prof just wants students to take attendance seriously. If you are in a coma, the Dean of Students would assist in the process. No reason to get dramatic over a cold or flu; just sit apart from others and cough into your sleeve. If you are vomiting, bring a barf bag and see how fast you get excused.

Any NCAA athletes in the class might miss a dozen or more classes and labs, depending on the sport and the conference (if it’s a D1). They will have to be “excused.”

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If a student doesn’t show up on the first day of class, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to drop them and take a waitlisted student.

Labs are difficult to make up. Students often don’t understand why. There’s a lot of prep involved in this. A typical undergraduate lab involves using materials that have already been set up and mostly prepared for you. It takes time to set this up. In order to make up a lab, all of this set up would have to be done again, which isn’t easy because the TAs or whoever is setting up still has to get set up for the next lab as well. In a typical 16 week semester, let’s suppose there’s one lab every week. That’s 16 labs for the semester. Let’s simply assume that the grade is based on just the labs. Missing one lab equals a score of 0% for 1/16 of your grade. Let’s assume that you miss one lab and get 100% on all of the other labs. Each lab is worth ten points. There’s a possible 160 points, and you get 150 points because of the one missed lab. That brings your 100% down to 93.75%. Miss a second and it brings it down to 87.5%, and so on. And this is assuming you’ve gotten 100% on all of the completed labs, which isn’t likely.

In other words, missing labs is a surefire way to fail or at the least get a really low grade in a lab course. The professor has a strict attendance policy to make sure that students attend all of the labs so that they can do better in the course. I imagine they are required by school policy to make allowances for instances of legitimate sicknesses and such. However, they don’t have to make allowances for the mornings where you got too drunk the night before or stayed up too late studying for the exam that you have after your lab.

If you tried to file a formal complaint, you’d probably be told the same things.

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The OP has not chimed in. I guess we didn’t give him/her the support he/she was expecting.

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