over-rated SAT

<p>wow eb, i didnt kno that. That is really crazy. So what are colleges looking for now??</p>

<p>"A perfect SAT score means alot! I mean anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but if you have a perfect SAT score, good grades, recs, essays and EC's, SAT IIs im sure you can get into a top notch college"</p>

<p>Tried it...waitlisted on Harvard & Princeton...rejected at MIT</p>

<p>got in for Stanford & Caltech, though :D</p>

<p>ebony...er...I'm just repeating hearsay, but Harvard still isn't that interested in recruiting poor people (forget being PC...I don't want to type out "socio-economically disadvantaged" over and over)...I've been told the vast majority of Ivy people are from the elite, and they only take token numbers of the rest (unless you're the next Einstein or something...)</p>

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Spets, you know very well that GPA counts for very little in the college app nowadays...(actually, what counts for the most now? I heard the essay is being devalued because they're being professionally written way too often...)</p>

<p>""institution would not have had much to go on, but with it they can feel more comfortable giving finantial aid." what does financial aid have to do with SAT? Yeah, because they can write amazing essays, good recs, and participate in state or national ECs."</p>

<p>To be honest, I've never met a person with high SAT scores and NOTHING else.

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<p>Did you fully comprehend the situation that I described? A poor kid with low GPA with an abusive family gets a 1600 with teacher recs acknowledging the family situation...the SAT in that case helps the institution accept her by confirming that she is not posing as a smart kid (and the overprep argument wouldn't really work in this case)</p>

<p>Well I know personally that I am really hoping my SAT scores were high. I got a 1220 at the beginning of HS, just took the new SAT and I think I got 100 percent on the math, so I am hoping for high scores. Aside from this, I have maybe a 3.3 GPA. Sad I know :(. I would be willing to guess that Ebonytear has a high GPA (unlike myself) and a "lower" SAT (probabily still high enough lol). Gettin late here in Iowa, ima hit the sack. I'll check this thread tomorrow.</p>

<p>"Also ebony, when I said that I had ment that Harvard is not in the business of educating kids who did not get the chance to learn Algebra I or II or Geometry effectively due to poor conditions." well they used to have affirmative action. Esp, at Cal, you used to be totally able to tell who got in legitimately, and who got in through aff. action. Plus, that point was that those kids would have to really study for the SAT because they didn't have the academic foundation to flip through a prep book and get it all. That doesn't mean they'll fail Algebra 2 or such, it means that they don't get the oppurtunity to learn the test as the other rich kids do.</p>

<p>Wow tanonev, thats insane. Im really confused now. I mean all this talk about 1600 = any school is just BS</p>

<p>Stanford and Caltech are still top notch schools, but still u kno what i mean</p>

<p>I got a 1220 at the beginning of HS, just took the new SAT and I think I got 100 percent on the math, so I am hoping for high scores. Aside from this, I have maybe a 3.3 GPA. Sad I know . I would be willing to guess that Ebonytear has a high GPA (unlike myself) and a "lower" SAT (probabily still high enough lol)</p>

<p>1220 isn't bad...by Asian standards, it's abysmal lol, but I'm guessing you're not Asian, so 1220 is OK for a freshman.</p>

<p>What I mean by the Asian remark: my friend's Asian friends got 1500ish on practice exams as freshmen and were mortified. My parents were upset that my freshman SAT was a "measly" 1480.</p>

<p>"To be honest, I've never met a person with high SAT scores and NOTHING else." There's a thread on a different forum about people who had low GPA and high SAT scores. There is bound to be people there. That's true, I guess, but lots of people place their bets only on SAT if their GPA sucks. </p>

<p>"ebony...er...I'm just repeating hearsay, but Harvard still isn't that interested in recruiting poor people (forget being PC...I don't want to type out "socio-economically disadvantaged" over and over)...I've been told the vast majority of Ivy people are from the elite, and they only take token numbers of the rest (unless you're the next Einstein or something...)" LOL. yes, that is such a long word. Harvard put out huge finaid package this year - full ride for like 40K and under and significantly more grants for like 70K and under. And they got rid of ED for the exact same reason. They do have to look PC, esp. since that one professor decided to say that women are innately worse in science than men..."token numbers of the rest" not necessarily. they are actually pretty heavily recruiting them - hence finaid and EA change from ED. </p>

<p>"Ebonytear has a high GPA (unlike myself) and a "lower" SAT (probabily still high enough lol)"</p>

<p>lol, well I had to work my arse off for that...and its not even that great. LOL, and yes, I got burned on the math section. :p</p>

<p>I had a post asking about my chances, and some people called me pig-headed, others were amazed, and the rest told me to prepare myself for a big letdown lol</p>

<p>lol, im south asian and my parents like beat me if i dont study for SAT and stuff. 1480 as a freshman is tite</p>

<p>"Beat" you? I must be really lucky then...</p>

<p>yes...college admissions are a total crap shot now...soo....yeah, the sample of people at CC is pretty varied, but still v. biased. LOL. my parents don't beat me, but you know, everyone expects so much.</p>

<p>no joke man, i used to run when i heard the garage door opening. And as soon as they came in i opened my SAT book and pretended. It was crazy.</p>

<p>"yes...college admissions are a total crap shot now...soo..."</p>

<p>Actually, I have a general idea of why I failed where I did...
MIT: missed the interview (yes, I know, I'm a horrible procrastinator, and it finally caught up to me)
Harvard/Princeton/Olin: I had to be interviewed, and I do really really bad in interviews...I can't keep my legs still, my eyes dart around the room, and I have absolutely no confidence, period</p>

<p>...thrills, they're not looking over your shoulder, right? or installing monitoring software? you might want to go check...just to be safe...</p>

<p>i want to go to UVA. Do you guys think thats an okay school for undergrad?</p>

<p>LOL no tanon. If that happened i prolly wouldnt be writing all these posts</p>

<p>what? no Ivy? It's always fun to try...even if they are elitist (or have that feel to them)...
I'll be honest...I don't know what UVA is like...I didn't apply there...(actually, I had no idea what some of the schools I applied to were like either, but that's a different story...)</p>

<p>People have pointed out that the college admissions process isn't random; it's just inscrutable. It's probably not as inscrutable as we think; it's just that we somehow think it's a numbers game (hence, the emphasis on the SAT), so when the results don't quite match, rather than admit that you can't quantify the admissions process, we dismiss it as something to do with luck...sure, there are the oddball cases that are decided with dartboards, but those are few and far between</p>

<p>"To be honest, I've never met a person with high SAT scores and NOTHING else."</p>

<p>Right here. 3.74 GPA. NO ec's at ALL - (other than my running XC and Track).</p>

<p>Tano - i'm right behind you. Ebony is wrong in this case - the SAT is an invaluable tool to measure student's aptitudes.</p>

<p>wait...I didn't say the SAT was an invaluable tool...I said it was useful, but by no means should it be put to Procrustean use...</p>