<p>North
Stanford
Cal-Berkeley
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State</p>
<p>South
Southern Cal
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado</p>
<p>What are everyone's thoughts on this expansion and division? Personally, I'm a little disappointed that the Northern Cal schools won't play the Southern Cal schools as much.</p>
<p>How on earth are Colorado and Utah south? Look at a damn map. Those places belong in the north.</p>
<p>In my mind, on a purely state-based division, it would make sense to have CA and AZ one division and the other four states another division.</p>
<p>I concur.</p>
<p>10 char</p>
<p>Part of Colorado’s deal was to be in the southern division, as they’ve a large fanbase in southern california. It sucks, but that’s the way it appears it is. </p>
<p>Colorado and Utah’s admittance should’ve been contingent on Texas and Oklahoma coming to the conference. Getting rid of the round-robin and adding these two teams does nothing for increasing the conferences BCS likability. </p>
<p>Now we have two weak divisions, no true conference champion, and lose the best thing the conference had going for it in the round-robin.</p>
<p>I would prefer having Stanford/Cal in the same division, but it’s not a big deal</p>
<p>Utah and Colorado both traveled very well when they played at the Rose Bowl recently, probably just behind USC and Cal (and maybe BYU).</p>
<p>It’s fine to me…it’s probably the most fair. </p>
<p>Another idea is the “zipper” effect (i.e. each rival plays in a different division, but plays the respective rival every year). Problem with this is dividing up the groups fairly with not much politics involved…good luck with that…and a conference championship game could lead to redundant games between rivals. So I don’t think this “zipper” idea would work.</p>
<p>This thread does not belong here. It belongs in some other general forum, but not a college search forum. Please take it there…</p>
<p>It’s likely going to be exactly like the OP has it. The CA schools will be separated (north/south) as Colorado’s acceptance of the offer was contingent on them being in the southern division.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Correct. Here is a report on the subject, [Pac-10</a> will likely split North-South - Pac-10 Blog - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/10542/its-looking-like-pac-10-will-split-north-south]Pac-10”>Pac-10 will likely split North-South - ESPN - Pac-12 Blog- ESPN).</p>
<p>The Nor Cal and So Cal schools will probably continue to play every year, but the Oregon/Washington schools and the Arizonas/Mountain schools will be played every other 2 years. I mean, 6 teams in a division still leaves room for 2 interconference plays and 2 out of conference plays.</p>
<p>as a stanford cardinal-to-be, i am really disappointed. part why i like stanford is its ability to balance sports culture with everything else. and USC, UCLA, AU, and ASU are a big part of that, even if Cal is the big rival. </p>
<p>the games just wont be as interesting with the california teams split up. stupid move in my opinion</p>
<p>“This thread does not belong here. It belongs in some other general forum, but not a college search forum. Please take it there…”</p>
<p>LOL, I can imagine you saying that in real life while crying. That’s what it sounds like.</p>
<p>I would love it if Cal could play UCLA or USC :/</p>
<p>Doesn’t seem to be a good divide. Pac-12 South is going to dominate the north in the conference championship. The conference is going to get written off even more than it has been.</p>
<p>North division is WEAK. Their programs will really be hurt by not playing in Southern California.</p>
<p>Are there interdivision partners? I hate seeing the California schools not play each other every year.</p>
<p>There was a time when the North Division was the strongest. In fact, its well known that the California schools were upset by the Dominance and Number One ranking in football by Washington and went after them looking for any minor infraction to bring down Big Don James…and they did. And both Oregon and Oregon State have been strong of late (and beat USC by the way.) Washington and Washington State will be back, trust me. They have a long heritage in the Pac10 and can win on any Saturday.</p>
<p>this thread still belongs in a cafe and not on a college search thread.</p>
<p>They will almost certainly play 9 conference games. So each team plays the 5 teams in their division and 4 of the 6 teams in the other division. so (say) Cal and UCLA will probably play twice every 3 years plus potential rematch in the title game.</p>
<p>That’s one major downside - pretty high probability that the conference title game is a rematch.</p>
<p>Also, north division isn’t weak… 2009 conference records:</p>
<p>North:
Oregon 8-1
Oregon State 6-3
Stanford 6-3
Cal 5-4
Washington 4-5
Washington State 0-9</p>
<p>South:
Arizona 6-3
USC 5-4
UCLA 3-6
Arizona State 2-7
Utah 10-3 (overall)
Colorado 3-9 (overall)</p>
<p>ignoring colorado/utah, the North went 29-25 and the South went 16-20. USC had a down year and Utah is strong, but it is not that imbalanced right now.</p>
<p>the north is at a disadvantage, though. the recruiting hotspots always come from southern california, texas, and florida.</p>
<p>Play all 5 teams in the division, then three from the other division (1 from each pair, switching back and forth each year), then 1 other game against the other division (with each CA school playing the CA school they haven’t already scheduled - the other pairs could probably be more random).</p>
<p>Seems like the best plan to me.</p>
<p>The northwest schools won’t go for that. They benefit whenever they play in los angeles (recruiting) or when USC visits (sell more tickets). They won’t want Cal/Stanford to get that benefit every year when they only get it every other year.</p>
<p>They’ll probably use a 5-1-2 format like the SEC does if they decide to do 8 conference games. If they do nine, I would bet on it being 5-1-3 rather than 5-2-2. 5 teams from your own conference, a permanent inter-division rival, and then rotating teams.</p>
<p>A 5-2-2 format would allow Cal and Stanford to play USC and UCLA every year.</p>