<p>We considered Virginia (except for DC area) and Liberty University to be in the South where the war of northern aggression is still being fought. Spouse attended UVA have first hand experience with the battle. D’s best friend attends Liberty.</p>
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Haha, very nice wording. So it’s East of Ohio and North of Virginia that holds a problem for you?</p>
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<p>I think it has more to do with the fact that conservatism supports people hoarding money, and once people enter business, they want to hoard their money.</p>
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Experience with “real life” American-style might support some conservatism, but let’s see how long you continue to support capitalism when you experience the “real life” of the 6 year-old Thai children who labor 10 hours a day for 18 cents an hour to make your Nikes.</p>
<p>Beats the heck out of being a child prostitute or collecting trash to eat.</p>
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If you collect trash, at least you get to keep all your limbs. Of course, the need for that is also a product of neo-colonial, capitalistic exploitation of the third world by the first. But hey, why don’t you start working with no labor laws and for 6 cents an hour, and I’ll console you that at least you’re not a whore.</p>
<p>Blah Blah Blah. BTW</p>
<p>“European colonial powers threatened in the 19th and early 20th centuries, but Thailand survived as the only Southeast Asian state to avoid colonial rule”</p>
<p>So they have made their own deals.</p>
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I threw in “Thai” as just a general representative, but yes, I am glad they maintained political independence (now, economic independence…). The Colombian labor leaders and families murdered by Coca-Cola’s paramilitary squads, however…</p>
<p>Child Labor Law Thailand</p>
<p>According to the labor law, a child labor could be employed only if he has completed 15 years of age. But, in order to child labor below 18 years of age, the employer is required to notify it to the labor inspector regarding the employment of a child labor within 15 days from the date of his joining the job. Likewise, the law restricts an employer to make a child labor below 18 years to work on public holidays and to do overtime. Further, child labor below 18 are not allowed work in certain working environments such as metal stamping, working with hazardous chemicals, and working with poisonous microorganisms.</p>
<p>OK, you are one of those, Bye.</p>
<p>^Great example of a limited defense that would aggravate the bejesus out of a prof at a top school.</p>
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<p>lololololol</p>
<p>Now why don’t you quote the US laws on sexual assault and drugs as proof that rape and drug use don’t happen in America?</p>
<p>But never mind. Why is this turning into a political discussion? And a very vague one at that.</p>
<p>Wow, I didn’t know adults on this forum could be so flippant about serious issues like child exploitation, while the youth are indignant. I guess “if you’re not a liberal when you’re 20, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative when you’re 40, you have no head.” Good stuff, capitalism.</p>
<p>^No, it’s a matter of how the argument developed. “Well, there are laws,” is not adequate defense that child labor abuses don’t exist. It could be seen as insensitive, by some (liberal OR conservative.) </p>
<p>More important, in the context of this thread: if the prof involved suggested it is an insufficient defense, he would NOT be forcing his own political views on students. He would be asking for a higher order of thought, some “critical thinking.” And, that’s what Ghostt was after, I believe.</p>
<p>Because we understand that not everywhere is where the US is in development and values. Didn’t you get those lectures about embracing diversity? Well in some poor countries getting $150/mo for working in a dry factory beats the heck out of being out in the weather farming for $70/mo. Many of us can still remember when countries like Japan were producing cheap goods at low wage factories and the label “Made in Japan” was to be avoided if you wanted quality in the US. But that production allowed them to learn modern manufacturing and engineering and within 30 years Japanese products were considered world class and people in Japan were flocking to buy Gucci bags and Rolexes.</p>
<p>You don’t get economic expansion on demand. And now we are seeing the reverse where the US got too expensive to support more growth and now the economy is being reset. And the profs are being let go or their pay slashed as a luxury that is no longer worth having.</p>
<p>Getting back to the OP, I applaud him or her for his or her mature thinking. A task of development in adolescence is to go from “splitting” (black or white thinking) and “labeling” (the jocks, the nerds, etc.) to realizing that there are gray areas, that people do not have to fit into cubbyholes or labels, that thinking should be nuuanced, alternative views considered, that an opinion about one issue does not automatically have to accompany an opinion about another issue, that evidence-based thinking should lay the groundwork for opinions, that compromise is often necessary to achieve common goals. The OP appears to be accomplising this task successfully, unlike some of his or her relatives, and unlike some of the adults holding or running for political office. I predict a very successful college career for this OP.</p>
<p>Love has no political affiliation</p>
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<p>Lawlz. Sorry. Had to say it.</p>
<p>wow this thread has gone off track way too much haha</p>
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<p>Start your own business and come back after a year and read your statement if you want a good laugh. 
Until someone has actual experience with business (owner/manager) they aren’t likely to understand. I know I didn’t even with my college education.</p>
<p>“The War of Northern Aggression” is how my other half - from NC - learned about the Civil War. He was surprised when I - from NY - had never heard of it that way. Granted, we’re a few moons out of school, but still…</p>
<p>To the OP - any luck with the reports? I like the idea of becoming more vague with extended family, but I can easily envision families where this wouldn’t be possible. Speaking as a [probably] less conservative parent, I’d find a “true” liberal school and show them that report compared to where you would like to go (assuming you don’t want the true liberal school that is). There are also schools who are less political overall than others.</p>
<p>If you’re talking purely social issues, my suggestion is always to live and let live. If grandma and grandpa want the right to live as they choose and to believe as they choose they really need to allow others that same right even if the two disagree. However, I don’t suggest you “scold” them about it. A well placed suggestion once in a great while might get minds thinking though. Back off if they don’t take it well or they’ll assume you truly are being corrupted.</p>
<p>I have my own beliefs about everything from business to politics (often intertwined) to broccoli. I allow others to have their beliefs too. As long as theirs don’t interfere with mine (they insist I can’t eat broccoli or encourage policies to put me out of business) then I see no problem.</p>
<p>At any college - even the most conservative ones - I suspect there will be some divergence of opinions on many, if not most, issues. Even at Christian/Catholic colleges, really, the only common denominator is a love of God (assuming that’s a condition for acceptance). There is a huge bit of diversity otherwise. There’s even more diversity when you consider some are only there because mommy and daddy made them go there and they don’t really share the love of God themselves.</p>
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<p>That’s more of a libertarian attitude, as opposed to the common conservative attitude that tries to push their own religion-based rules on others.</p>
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<p>Source, please?</p>