Parents cut off tuition, less than a month and a half away HELP!

<p>I’m not siding with the parents, either. Frankly, if this was going to be their position, then THEY did a crappy job letting her know at the last minute when the “bad thing” happened awhile ago. </p>

<p>The very common position of many/most posters on this thread is that the OP’s plan just isn’t doable. She’s not going to be able to come up with $1600 a month (25% of her semester tuition) while also paying for room and board. Heck, she probably won’t even be able to come up with only tuition money.</p>

<p>Am I the only one who thinks she can afford to do a work study and take private loans for the rest? 15k is really not that much.</p>

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<p>Hate to say it, but unless you’re willing to cosign for her, then, yeah, I think you may be the only one who thinks she’ll be able to “take private loans for the rest.” There’s no such thing as private loans for a college student with no credit history.</p>

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<p>Yes. You are. I take out the full Stafford loans every year (which is what this student could take out), work a work study job, AND work another job 20 hours+ a week in the school year, 40 in the summer. I still can’t afford tuition plus everything else. </p>

<p>Remember that even IF the OP could afford TUITION, there’s food, housing, transportation, books, etc, etc, etc.</p>

<p>Am I the only one who thinks she can afford to do a work study and take private loans for the rest? 15k is really not that much</p>

<p>Uh…I hope your screenname isn’t an indication that you’re seeking some kind of finance career.</p>

<p>1) She needs $15k a SEMESTER…that’s $30k per year (plus money for living expenses).</p>

<p>2) She likely has at least 2 more school years…so that’s $60k of debt.</p>

<p>3) And this is the biggie…such loans would require qualified co-signers…and guess what??? She ain’t got any. </p>

<p>So, uh, yes…you’re the only one who thinks she can do the impossible.</p>

<p>Getting into debt for undergrad, any undergrad, is dumb.</p>

<p>I would apply for federal grants, if you can, and then do work-study throughout the year. You might qualify for Pell grants if your family is poor enough. If not, I wouldn’t take out 30k a year for undergrad.</p>

<p>Are you taking general education courses, still, or courses in your major? Can you take a couple of courses at a community college? Get a job on campus? Find an campus housing (my community college had apartments across the street that we could rent that included: Rent, internet, and utilities for 400 a month)?</p>

<p>on* not an. Sorry for the typo. </p>

<p>If repairing your relationship with your parents is not an option at this point; you cannot get loans due to a lack of co-signer and lack of FASFA, and you have no relatives who are willing to pay for your college education, then at this time moving-out and working (maybe going to a cc) is your only viable option. You cannot force money for your tuition and living expenses to appear out of thin air. It just doesn’t. Working 30+ hours, attending classes full-time, studying, and having a social life is not likely (I have attempted such). </p>

<p>Not attending a university for a year is not the end of the world. Your parents want you to face adult consequences. If you screwed up, majorly and you have admitted this, then it is fair of them to say that they will not pay for your tuition. I am not a parent. I am a 23 year old undergraduate student, whose parents are not paying for my tuition either (I am no longer in contact with my parents, due to a complex array of issues). If you work to support yourself, apply for scholarships and grants throughout the year, and save money where you can then you might eventually be able to afford school on your own eventually. If not, then work and volunteer until you are 24 years old, fill-out FASFA and return to school to finish your degree. There is no shame in doing so.</p>

<p>As my Literature professor said, “You’ll be 30 eventually. You can either be 30 with a degree, or 30 without one. It is your choice.” </p>

<p>Attending an in-state college, also, is not the end of the world. You don’t have to live with your parents. You can move to a city within your state, which is farther away. Now is not the time to let your pride take over. </p>

<p>Sometimes we have to take a different route in life then the one that we originally planned to take.</p>

<p>To even get federal loans, the Staffords, she needs a completed FAFSA with her parents’ infomration and signatures. She hasn’t even filed one yet, as she has had her way paid completely. I believe one can get some aid without parental information with a waiver, but it is not as good.</p>

<p>The truth of the matter is that colleges have seen this sort of thing many times each year. Happened when I was at school too. THey will very likely wait to see if this will blow over. If they stepped in with funds, many people will take this tactic to get the money from the school.</p>

<p>First, it is highly unlikely that the financial aid office is going to talk to this student without a current FAFSA on file. The financial aid offices look at the expected FAMILY contribution. The parents have had no hardships financially. They have stated that they will not pay. There is nothing in this to support a financial aid officer offering something like federal work study which is a need based award. The financial aid office NEVER has dealt with this family as they have been full pay. They would need to show that the FAMILY (mostly the parents) have had a financial hardship. That the parents are CHOOSING not to pay will not matter at all.</p>

<p>Look at it this way…if students could gain full tuition or full funding through the colleges by saying that their parents refuse to pay, most students would do this to get the money. This is NOT how financial aid works.</p>

<p>This student is living at home with her family. The family has the financial means to pay. The parents say they will not pay. I don’t see anything in this that would give a financial aid officer the ability to award ANY school based aid to this student…add to that that the school would would not make financial aid awards at all without the necessary application forms (FAFSA, Profile, etc).</p>

<p>THis is not an unusual situation and has happened many times over time. My cousin underwent this 30 years ago. Her parents demanded that she live on campus in a single sex dorm. She refused and got a room in a co ed dorm. They refused to pay. She could not get a room in a single sex dorm when she realized that they truly were not going to relent. So, the result was that she ended up paying for her own education and it took her two extra years to get through college. She was able to do this because she was attending an inexpensive state school. But it still cost her in time and experience. She had to work several jobs, live off campus, sometimes mooching off of friends, The college did not give her any extra money because of her predicament. In her case she really lost out, because I do believe she lost financial aid due this, as they refused to fill out the forms. </p>

<p>But in many cases, it’s doable. You can get the basic unsub Stafford without a parental signature, which is $6500 for the year. Mooch off friends and pay the tutiion in installments and maybe even get a bit of a deferment, so that you work and earn enough to give it a go. If you work full time and pull a lot of hours, you can get the full Stafford for the spring semester so you just lose half the year, But without a credit worth cosigner, she isn’t going to be able to get loans over that Stafford, and it’s going to be rough to come up with what this college costs.</p>

<p>Parents often turn out to be deeply disappointing. That is an unfortunate fact of life. You may want to engage an aggressive attorney and sue them for making false promises to pay for your tuition. If you remain in the house, make sure you contact an agent, because it could be a great reality show. One of the mysteries of the show would be that nobody would ever reveal what you did to unhinge your parents.</p>

<p>What about transferring to your in-state flagship? In our state that would mean $10,000 per year in tuition (not $15,000 per semester). This is for full-time and it’s still cheaper than taking your three classes @ $6,400. But of course you’d still have to come up with loans and employment. </p>

<p>Just a thought.</p>

<p>What could be done immediately is family counseling to work on the relationship. The OP’s behavior caused her parents to take a stand that would get her attention. Family counseling could explore the behavior, their reaction, her plan for correcting her behavior and an ongoing plan for getting her back on track in accordance with the family’s expectations.
She should go to her parents, apologize and offer this as an alternative.</p>

<p>OK as a parent:</p>

<p>I remember my parents in my college years. Their income was high enough that I qualified for no aid, so I depended on them more than I should. In return they used money to micro-manage every aspect of my life. If you don’t go to the school we want, we won’t pay, if you don’t choose the major we want, we won’t pay, if you date someone we don’t like, we won’t pay, if you live somewhere we don’t like, we won’t pay, if you take classes we don’t approve of, we won’t pay… I had two choices, to live by whatever rules they decided to dole out that day and count the days until I no longer had to report their income on my paperwork or to figure out how to support myself. I chose to put up with their rules, but now over 20 years later, I can still say it did long term damage to our relationship and I can definitely understand the desire to break away.</p>

<p>Their is a priority date for the FAFSA, but it can be filed year round. Do a FAFSA ASAP. It would be best if you can get the income info from your parents, but if not, an earlier post noted that if your parents absolutely refuse to release the information that you can speak with your financial aid office about filing without their info. Without a FAFSA, you won’t qualify for any aid…period. Do it…yesterday!</p>

<p>Once a FAFSA is filed you should still be able to get govt backed loans. There is a limit and it is not high enough to cover your tutition, let alone your tution + living expenses, you’ll have to determine if you will be able to meet the remaining expenses. If you borrow the money and then find that you can’t make the remainder of the payments and the school cancels your registration the money will be due back immediately.</p>

<p>You need to sit down and make a budget - how much will it cost to live (there are some REALLY cheap apartments in some areas, old studio units with few ammenities, how much is the lowest rent you can pay? how about roommates, if you share an apt, perhaps you can save $, can you live with friends/relatives…“couch surfing” is not uncommon with young adults if you are comfortable and know someone that will let you stay on their couch for help with their food/utitlity bills), what are ALL your other expenses - do you own a car? (gas, insurance), do you use other transportation? (airfare to school? public transportation?) food? utilities? books? clothes? sit down and be REALISTIC about how much you spend and how much you NEED to spend…how much do you spend now that you could cut out of your budget if you needed too?</p>

<p>Then sit down and be very honest about how you meet the difference in the total expenses minus what you can get in loans. Can you get a full time job? Paying how much? (very dependent on the area you go to school). Can you get a part time job? Is it realistic to work more than one job? Perhaps a part time job on campus and then another part time job off campus? How much time do you spend studying? How much time do you spend invovled in activities? How much time do you really have available for work and how much can you make in that time?</p>

<p>Is it possible to seek an internship or co-op? Have you spoken with those offices? If you sign up to co-op, you could find a way to cover you expenses for the fall and work during the spring and retain your student status and make money to pay for your next semester. </p>

<p>There has been a lot of advice saying to take a year off and work, but financially that may not be the best solution. If you can make $10/hour now, then with a 40 hour week in a year you can earn just over $20,000 - taxes. If your major and the job market allows you to make a starting salary of even $20/hour after graduation (or around $40,000/year), then your best financial option is to get to that point as quickly as possible. If you graduate in 2 years and borrow $10,000/year over the next 2 years, then you’ve borrowed $20,000, but the $40,000 salary allows you to pay back the borrowed money and still have a higher income than you would have without the degree. If instead you continue to make $20,000/year but must use a good portion for living expenses and can only save $5000-10000 per year, then you may need to work for several years locked into a lower salary to save the money to go to school. Only you can make REALISTIC estimates based upon your major, the likelihood that you’ll find a job in the current economy, the average starting salaries, your GPA and current work experience and how that will impact your ability to find a job… Do the math… do the math for a 5 year, or 10 year period… is it better to work for $10/hour - your expenses, how much can you save, how long would it be before you could realistically expect to return to school, if instead you borrow the money, how much will your payments be, when and how much can you expect to get as a salary after graduation… what if you co-op or intern what influence does that have…</p>

<p>Supporting yourself would be DIFFICULT, but not impossible, if it’s what you are determined to do, then sit down and do the math and figure out how to make it happen… if you are willing to WORK to make it happen - possibly working multiple jobs, possiblity living in an old, run-down property that you wouldn’t normally look twice at, giving up your car and learning to walk… it is not impossible, but first do the FAFSA, even if you decide no to pursue the loans later, the FAFSA is free and doesn’t take long to complete, get it done NOW, talk to the office at your school that handles internships and co-ops and determine if that’s a possibility, and sit down and make a REALISTIC short term (this school year) and long term (both for taking a gap year(s), and with loans) budget</p>

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<p>how? as far as we know she has no cosigners available.</p>

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<p>I was just using rounded off figures, $10,000 or the Stafford limit for whatever year the OP is in school…doesn’t really matter, neither covers expenses in full, so I was just rounding stuff off.</p>

<p>^ Stafford limit is 6500 or 7500 depending on whether she’s a sophomore or junior.</p>

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<p>Children can also turn out to be deeply disappointing, which is probably what happened in the OP’s case. Something went down in May, and 2 months later, they are still at an impasse to the point where OP’s parents, don’t believe that they should continue to fund $30k plus living expenses for this action. </p>

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<p>Initially, Op was not sorry for what she did, she was just sorry that she got caught doing it. There is no law saying that they have to and they are free to spend their money as they see fit. It would be a frivolous suit that OP would not win.</p>

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<p>This is a non issue because family is full pay, they did not file the FAFSA (they figured, probably correctly that they would not get anything in terms of need based aid at a FAFSA OOS. Parents have refused to fill out the FAFSA, which is also their right, so there will be no $6,500/$7,500 stafford loans.</p>

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<p>There is a work-around for this now. I’m not sure how it works, but you can get the unsub Stafford loans if parents refuse to fill out a FAFSA.</p>