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<p>Interesting…The South doesn’t have a two hundred year history of racism against South Asians (Indians and Pakistanis), but it does against blacks. If you are dark skinned, perhaps some people assume you’re black—which would demonstrate an incredible level of ignorance, given the fact that South Asians are considered “Caucasians”. What kinds of racism do you encounter/observe, Protagonist?</p>
<p>^ Um, South Asians are considered Asian, not Caucasian.</p>
<p>Well, maybe Pakistanis are considered Caucasian, I don’t know; but the Indian subcontinent is always categorized as Asian.</p>
<p>^OT, indo-germanic</p>
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<p>The region is considered to be Southern Asian, but the people, racially speaking, are thought to be Caucasian—why that is, I cannot say. I was rather taken aback when I first heard this, because, obviously, skin color must not figure into it. To me, most Indians and Pakistanis look neither Asian (in the Chinese/Japanese/Korean sense), nor white (in the White Aryan, Teutonic sense).</p>
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<p>“Inferior races”? Do tell…:rolleyes:</p>
<p>Columbia_Student–is this from a textbook still in use???</p>
<p>I hope not.</p>
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<p>Maryland and Northern Virginia also beat most places by a landslide and are nowhere near as “Southern” as people from farther north expect them to be (although President Obama couldn’t believe it the first time all the schools in the Metro DC area closed in response to a tiny amount of snow – something that would have been inconceivable in Chicago).</p>
<p>By Indian = Asian, I am going strictly by U.S. governmental census definitions, as used by colleges to collect the optional race/ethnicity information on applications.</p>
<p>Published in 1913… probably not the best source.</p>
<p>I don’t live in the South and I wasn’t born there. However, let’s be careful with the careless regional generalizations about racism. I believe an American of South Asian descent is governor of Louisiana.</p>
<p>I have no clue. I just googled it and it popped up. I didn’t read the rest so I apologized for offending anyone. I was just referring to the part that Indian/Pakistani belongs to the indo-germanic race, which is the part that I highlighted in bold, so they are not Asians.</p>
<p>The Asian thing is very, very far off-topic.</p>
<p>“Interesting…The South doesn’t have a two hundred year history of racism against South Asians (Indians and Pakistanis), but it does against blacks. If you are dark skinned, perhaps some people assume you’re black—which would demonstrate an incredible level of ignorance, given the fact that South Asians are considered “Caucasians”. What kinds of racism do you encounter/observe, Protagonist?”</p>
<p>I am a yellow skinned Indian.
I have been beaten and jumped and called a terrorist by nearly all kids outside of the magnet school. At the Family Y one time, these kids did not want me playing basketball so one of them threw a basketball at my head, it hurt and I threw it away and kept on playing. He was calling me all sorts of racial slurs like Curryhead and Hairy Indian Baboon. I told him to shut up and he got his friends to beat me up, funny thing is that a family Y staff member was his cousin so he just stood there and watched, later on laughed. </p>
<p>Make no mistake, the south is indeed very racist. Maybe not the Black people but a lot of the White people here are hostile towards my type. Thing is that when people at my magnet school heard this they said they were sorry and this type of thing is common in the area I live in. Also we have tons of religious loons who tell everyone that if they are not Christian they are going to hell. </p>
<p>NOW OP sorry for interrupting your thread. So I will do this, everyone, if you want to know more, please message me and I will answer all questions.</p>
<p>The DC and Virginia area tends to have a lot of good schools. Not as good as those in Massachusetts and the New England area but still good.</p>
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<p>The DC suburbs also have lots of multiethnic neighborhoods in which Indian families feel comfortable. </p>
<p>If I may make a generalization – and perhaps get us back on topic – all of the selective academic magnet programs that I have known of are places where prejudice based on someone’s race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or sexual orientation is socially unacceptable. The only socially accepted prejudice is considering oneself different from non-magnet students (but this is a conclusion that the non-magnet students would probably agree with).</p>
<p>Marian, that has been our experience as well. Various kinds of Asians and African-American are represented there, as well as at least two gays that I know of. In the year-plus that my son has been there, there have been no reported fights or thefts. The worse problem I can remember is that someone broke the microwave in one of the lounges and wouldn’t admit it, so they took away microwave privileges for a month. These are some of the smartest kids in our state; it does not surprise me that they are well-behaved.</p>
<p>Re: selective admissions, they are no guarantee that you’re going to get NMSFs in the school. My district has its science/tech program in three different schools, each of which serves a different part of the district. ONE of these schools is considered a good school; the others, not so much.</p>
<p>The science/tech program is highly regarded; at the “good” school, which is the one serving my part of the district, the admissions rate has hovered in the 17-18% range in recent years. I don’t know what the admissions rate is at the other two schools. </p>
<p>Entrance is by score, which derives from grades and test scores on the entrance exam. The highest-scoring kids are offered seats in the program as freshmen; a waiting list is maintained for seats which may become available. The largest of the schools is the “good” school, and it admits ~ 225 students into the program each year; the other two schools admit ~ 150 students into their respective S/T programs.</p>
<p>And out of the three schools, only one of them consistently has NMSFs: the “good” school. This year, it had a bumper crop of 10 (one of whom, my son, is no longer a student there); it usually has around 6.</p>
<p>NO other school in the district, public or private, has any NMSFs this year. Indeed, it is rare that any other school does, though last year, there was one at another school.</p>
<p>Even though admissions are competitive, the district just doesn’t produce NMSFs.</p>
<p>Most smart parents move to better districts!</p>
<p>I just pulled up a document about the S/T program at one of the other two schools in the district which has it. I started reading, hit this: </p>
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<p>…and stopped reading, as that was after I’d run across a link identified as “Curriculum Sequnce.” </p>
<p>I am so so so so glad my kid is out of this school system!!</p>
<p>Of ~230 seniors in my class this year, we have 28 NMSFs. (This seems to be a bumper crop, too, as last year we had 18 out of a slightly smaller class.)</p>
<p>Each year, about 50 percent of the seniors in our district’s principal math/science magnet program and about 30 percent of those in the selective admission IB magnet program are NMSFs. In both places, being an NMSF is no big deal – unless you’re applying to colleges where it will help you get merit scholarship money.</p>
<p>There is a reason Maryland, MA and NJ consistently have the top NMSF qualifying scores in the country!</p>
<p>One additional comment to Marian’s post on the difficulty of getting into one of the magnet programs: the programs only accept incoming freshmen. Testing for next fall happens in early December. If you move here soph year, you are out of luck.</p>
<p>Marian, re: post-AP coursework – S1 (math major) placed directly into Analysis at Chicago and took three graduate courses in CS freshman year. Math was based on a placement exam and a chat with the departmental math advisor (having substantive experience with proofs and Lin Alg helped a lot), and he talked to the department advisor and two profs in the CS department who both had long chats with him, and them told him he could take whatever he wants. We know of others from the same HS who have had similar experiences at other schools.</p>
<p>S2 was accepted at the math/science, IB and new program – in retrospect, I think he made a good decision. He definitely took a hit on the grades vs. our local school. As I’ve said many times before, though, he would not have traded this for anything.</p>
<p>Another (dubious) advantage to selective programs: my kids already knew how to write application essays and ask for LORs for college. They had to write essays for middle and high school programs.</p>
<p>We are way down this year in NMSF’s. Only four! I think last year we had nine.</p>