Parents of the HS Class of 2011 - Original

<p>Good morning, all. D left the house in a bad mood this morning, expecting three rejections today. She’s wishing she had come up with a different list and not applied to so many very selective schools. Even though she is into a school she’s really happy about, with lots of merit $, the recent WLs and rejections are really taking their toll on her. Nobody wants to be rejected.</p>

<p>She’s a great kid! Nearly 4.0 (only one B, last semester in AP Calc), 33 ACT, committed ECs, an enthusiastic learner. What’s not to love? But she hasn’t been shown the love by the tippy-top schools, and it’s crushing her spirit.</p>

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<p>Congratulations on all the good news! Double groan for those with disappointments…</p>

<p>Good luck to all that are expecting decisions today! </p>

<p>And for all of you, we will be getting off the roller coaster soon! Decisions will be made and the celebrating begins.</p>

<p>Here is a link from a letter to the class of 2008 three years ago. I thought then it was lovely. Best wishes to all today.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/491200-seniors-2008-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/491200-seniors-2008-a.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I loved the message on the link.</p>

<p>Congrats and hugs where appropriate.</p>

<p>One kid at our HS got into Stanford. I don’t know him well, but I’m happy. Other than our smart athletes and the highest ranked URM, the rest of our kids seem to have accumulated a big stack of WLs this year from the top schools.</p>

<p>This is probably not the time, but at some point it would be great if the parents of those who did win the lottery, and whose kids aren’t recruited athletes, URMs or legacies, to post (of course, in a humble manner) why they think their kid got in. I’d especially be interested in the public school kids. </p>

<p>We all know it’s not enough to be brilliant and have great ECs. What was it? Honestly, most of the kids I have known through the years who are at the top schools were athletes, URMs, legacies (most double or even quadruple) or came from private schools where the GCs know* everyone*. Quite a few of our top students don’t even try for the reaches, in favor of schools that will give them a free or almost free ride, so I probably don’t have a good idea of who from our school would have been admitted had they tried.</p>

<p>now, how do we decide? We are flying all over hell and gone this month for overnights. I thought the money would decide but it is too close to call and I have twins who might consider going together but are really making up their minds independently.</p>

<p>Twin A has full tuition (merit that won’t go away) at Tulane
Both girls have generous need aid that I am afraid will change (I am a free lancer with a growing business, so my moderate success may prove disasterous) from Wellesely, Macalester and Bowdoin (waiting to hear from Northwestern).
I will be calling all the fin aid offices to inquire, but it is all hypothetical.
YUCK. any knowledge about the need based offers? any bait and switch out there?</p>

<p>[10</a> College Admissions Trends: Southern Schools, Waitlist, More - The Daily Beast](<a href=“http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-30/10-college-admissions-trends-southern-schools-waitlist-more/]10”>The Daily Beast: The Latest in Politics, Media & Entertainment News)</p>

<p>Interesting…though reminds of reporters intervewing reporters…</p>

<p>I’m in there with Missypie and OregonianMom … This process is tough on the typical high achieving public high school kid (4.0 with tough curriculum, high test scores, plenty of APs, passionate about ECs) who doesn’t have that extra something (well, for AdComs - I see that extra something all the time!). And, at LACs, I think it’s particularly tough for girls these days.</p>

<p>My D is in a number of lottery drawings for tonight and though she’s not thinking about them much now (too exhausted from a full day at one-act play competition yesterday - yay! they advanced!) the night could be a tough one. The good news is that she got into Carleton, one of her very favorites, so we know the outcome will be good. But the process is grueling. She hasn’t been rejected yet, but six waitlists already? And when some are from clear matches, the questioning of self-worth begins.</p>

<p>But, as has been often said, I think we’ve got resilient kids. The “love thy safety” mantra has never worked very well for us, but now in this season of the waitlist, the one that’s working for me is “you can only go to one college” … and she’s got one she loves and that is a good fit.</p>

<p>And I’m also with MNMom … last week was D’s 18th birthday and we got her 18 instant lottery tickets. She hasn’t had the time/energy to scratch them all yet, so perhaps we’ll do that as the results roll in tonight. Something’s gotta hit! :)</p>

<p>@mnmomof2: I agree with you about Amherst. The late notification is likely to take it off the table around here, despite their shiny new geology building.</p>

<p>BonnieNewJersey, thanks so much for posting that 2008 letter link. I’d saved it years back for just this week, and couldn’t find it in my bookmarks. It’s not happy news at D1’s school, and I wanted to send that on to the kids.</p>

<p>My fingers are crossed for all those hoping for good news today.</p>

<p>O-MOM: My heart goes out to your daughter and other kids who are feeling defeated by this process. I think that it’s especially tough for students like your daughter who apply to mostly small, selective schools. I’ve seen nieces and nephews go through the same thing, and they almost all ended up at great fits. I hope that she gets some good news today. If she doesn’t, I hope that she can move past this and get excited about the good choices that she does have.</p>

<p>Missypie, OregonianMom, and OneGirlsMom–I’m right there with you. I live near TJHSST which is a public selective (testing required for entrance) science/math magnet school. If public kids get into reachy schools, they tend to come from TJ. DS doesn’t go there. So I would love to hear from any who do get in from public HS on what they think the <em>magic</em> is. Who knows, one of us could feel the magic tomorrow for our kids, but I’m definitely not holding my breath! :wink: </p>

<p>I keep focusing on the great state U’s we have here in VA and DS has gotten into them. One is the top runner so far and I think a great fit for him. So I’m happy knowing he will go to a great school. I’m not happy knowing that tonight will bring some heartbreak for him. He is realistic, but he is also optimistic. </p>

<p>I will be silently cheering for everyone tonight. Cheer for us too. It will all shake out and at the end of April we will emerge with happy kids who know where they are going to school and are proud of their choices.</p>

<p>Regarding the story about the girl who pistol whipped her mom to get her to co-sign a car loan, how many of you had the first thought of, </p>

<p>“Well, now someone from the WL will get her spot” </p>

<p>and the second thought of </p>

<p>“When a girl posts on CC ‘Will my schools rescind me because of an aggravated assult charge’ we’ll know who it is”?</p>

<p>Things that make you go hmmmm…</p>

<p>Got this email from S’s school today. </p>

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<p>A little late to start thinking about financing. This is probably my biggest complaint with S’s guidance dept. They do not educate families/parents/kids about the cost of college and how to pay for it something I do think guidance depts should be doing.</p>

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<p>I had a talk with a mom at school that made me sad. She and her H didn’t go to college and their older son didn’t either. The D really wants to go to a second tier public, but they can’t afford it. They are mad at the D for not applying for more scholarships from the school. </p>

<p>If the mom had spent any time on the school’s website, she would realize that publics like the one her D wants to attend give out very very little money that is strictly merit based. I do think she completed the FAFSA so there will hopefully be need-based money coming that will be a pleasant surprise to them. I so wish she had asked for help from some of the parents who have been through this before. The school GC office is no help at all. At some point they put on the school website: “College Bound Seniors. Fill out the FAFSA.”</p>

<p>So, okay, the message to the seniors of 2008 has me sitting at my computer totally tearing up - thank you BonnieNewJersey. Why do I think this isn’t a day when I’m going to get a lot of work done?</p>

<p>Warning…long post.</p>

<p>Belated, but heartfelt and joyous congrats to OWM’s son. What a terrific ending/beginning!</p>

<p>Renmom, HUGE congrats to your son on Wesleyan! I am so happy for you, if you look out your window toward the Midwest, you will see an extra little light spot in the sky. That is me smiling with you.</p>

<p>Congrats, Blue on UVA! Great school, and I’m so happy for bluejr!</p>

<p>Pepper, what a woman! I’m proud of you!</p>

<p>Arisamp, sitting here crying for your D, though I’m only up to “3/25”. Praying for better news for her next week.</p>

<p>Mamom, sorry for the sting of W&L, but hope it has faded now in the happiness of the other acceptance.</p>

<p>So sorry to have built undue suspense about sb’s situation…I really didn’t mean to do that, I just got so behind on my reading, and I’m compulsive on “catching up” before posting new news.</p>

<p>So here’s our little deal. Sb told me 2 weeks ago that she’d decided she’s not going to Lawrence (conservatory), even if accepted. She said it just wasn’t the right school for her and she knows she would be unhappy there. I had to agree…I had reservations all along about fit for her there. </p>

<p>And she ended up not being accepted (no surprise there…they had the highest number of vocal apps in their hundred-and-something-year history, and she’s a lyric soprano.) We knew that wasn’t going to happen, just like we know we don’t win lotteries or raffles.</p>

<p>Then she got a FULL RIDE (ok, minus $1K, but can l still call it a full ride (except for pocket change) because I love the sound of that phrase, at one of the remaining schools on her list(she won their full tuition scholarship plus grants/scholarships for almost all of R+B.)</p>

<p>By this point, though, she was telling me every day, “Mom, I just know I really want to go to Hillsdale.”. (Don’t worry that you’ve never heard of it …small LAC in south central MI known for taking no federal $ in order to be beholden to no one in Govt for what they teach or how they run their school.). All their scholarships and grants are from robust private endowments.</p>

<p>They also focus on a very rigorous and truly classical liberal arts education, stemming from the Western Greco/Roman, Judeo/Christian heritage. Most people find that either wildly exciting or not for them. We won’t get into that here, except to say everything about this school has thrilled her from the very beginning. </p>

<p>But their popularity has grown tremendously in the past 2 years, so much so that they are now taking large numbers of (and sometimes rejecting) ivy-league kids. Sb got accepted with 2/3 tuition, and the possibility of another $K or 2 vocal scholarship (audition next week). This is also the school that she spent an entire Sat at her desk writing 3 essays for because she got invited to apply for one of just 30 spots in their Honors College, and she wanted her app in that day’s mail (remember me running for the Sat 4pm pickup?). That hangs in the balance. No word yet.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, yesterday, she got finaid pkg from another of her schools. Another full ride with no loans! She started crying right away, which I totally couldn’t figure out, until she explained it to me. She feels like how can she ask me to cough up the extra $12K per year AND use the “Grandma and Grandpa scholarship” when these other 2 schools would cost us virtually nothing.</p>

<p>I started crying too (Lord, aren’t we all crying over something or other every day now? And don’t even TALK to me about hormones … Sorry, Dads. )</p>

<p>Anyway, I told her she herself has earned a tremendous amount of the cost of the school she wants through her years of hard work and sacrifice. That’s what earned those scholarships and grants. And that Grandma, Grandpa and I want nothing more than her happiness and her own good decision on this, which we have every confidence she can make.</p>

<p>Not to mention the fact that, philosophically, we love this school. Heck, my dad would probably give her a full ride there if need be and not tell the other grandkids!!! :)</p>

<p>We know she will make every dollar count there and get a terrific education, and be in a place where she can thrive, grow, be nurtured, challenged, and happy.</p>

<p>Is their music dept tops of her 6 schools? No. Are they offering us the most money? No. Is it the school that, in her heart, she knows she belongs at? Yes. Whether she gets into the Honors College or not? Yes.</p>

<p>Case closed and decision made.</p>

<p>SHE’S GOING TO HILLSDALE!!!</p>

<p>Is there an emoticon for a laughing/crying/slightly hysterical/I-love-you-people-Mom???</p>

<p>Onegirlsmom, empathysing with the tears at your house. My good friend’s D had a meltdown recently where both parents sat silently as she sobbed and wept out all sorts of painful/funny events of her life that ended in a huge sob, “And of course there’s my nose!”. Her dad said quietly, “Your what?”. To which she replied, “My NOSE! Oh, you act like you don’t know, but it’s never been right, and you know it.”. At this point, dad left the room, and mom was left to deal with this poor mess of a daughter who will be just fine come May, and who, I want to add as an objective bystander, has a PERFECTLY NORMAL NOSE! </p>

<p>Posting now because no matter how fast I read 2 pages, you guys have posted another 4!</p>

<p>Oh…and I, too, now have an 18 year old! How can that be? Weren’t we just playing peek-a-boo?</p>

<p>MOSB,
I can’t tell you how happy I am for songbird, and how thrilled I am for you!! :slight_smile: What an amazing story. Thanks for taking the time to share it. I love to hear when a student and school just match up…including finances! I feel like you, that years of hard work in high school allow our kids a certain amount of liberty in choosing despite cost, within reason of affordability.
I hope you both can ride this high straight into move-in with no illness or glitches!! :)</p>

<p>MOSB - so happy that your daughter will be able to live her dream and that you will be able to afford it.</p>

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<p>LOL! Why not just get everything out at once?!</p>

<p>But speaking of body parts, have any of the girls of '11 asked for breast augmentation for a grad present?</p>

<p>Congrats on the decision, MOSB.</p>