Parents of the HS Class of 2011 - Original

<p>Hi Everyone
OK so the ACT scores are in…</p>

<p>question 1</p>

<p>what is the standard why or writing the scores…?
meaning in the SAT we do CR/M/W…and its generally listed in that shorthand order</p>

<p>is there are standard way to handle the ACT composite and sections…?</p>

<p>Generally happy with the scores–one section was lower-
–it was the one the proctor interrupted the kids (social studies/art/lit) and said–“you have 5 minutes left”…and our student had a full section to read and was midway through the one being worked on!
–THEN the proctor a few minutes later said–
“Oh, I read the clock wrong, you have more time…you have xyz minutes left”…
the whoel room of kids looked around at eachother like "what the ? "
It really had the whole room paniced–and thats the score that is is 5 pts lower than all of the others! ouch–</p>

<p>question 2</p>

<p>how does the writing section affect the composite? or is it a separate score?</p>

<p>They say on the results page that the writing score will not affect the composite. </p>

<p>Schools will look at both the composite and the individual sections, as with SAT. They’ll “superscore” in a lot of cases - pull out all of the best sections and make the best composite possible.</p>

<p>I think your story about the proctor is horrifying. Those poor kids!</p>

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<p>Fogfog, did your child take the test in Texas? I heard a similar story from one of D’s friends who took it in another location.</p>

<p>At least you can retake ACTs with no penalties. Every year there are so many things that go wrong at the various test sites. I remember one year they had a power outage during one of Son’s AP tests. They ended up getting all of the time aloted to finish, but it could have really messed up a student child who was easily rattled.</p>

<p>Congratulations to everybody’s kids on their target/above target ACT scores! </p>

<p>S is taking SAT II on May 1st. Didn’t do any prep yet and I am trying to convince him to switch one of the subjects to Chem, since he just took the National Chemistry Exam this weekend. </p>

<p>He got rejected for the internship he applied for this summer, and has no plan B. I don’t even want him to think about applying anywhere else at this point, with the SATs, AP tests and state and national academic competitions he has coming.</p>

<p>Horror stories from the AP exams last year: </p>

<p>During the APUSH they had to evacuate the school due to fire alarm. On the foreign language exam, they were supposed to listen to a question on the tape and have X seconds to answer. The proctor noticed that the pause between the questions was considerably shorter than the X seconds.</p>

<p>Yeah, I think our school has had a fire alarm go off during the AP exams, too. Maybe that’s why I’m getting less and less concerned about AP exam results as the years go by.</p>

<p>So when and how are the AP results released? Mailed? Online? </p>

<p>(Boy, am I going to be an expert for D’13! :smiley: )</p>

<p>Klucky- d got hers in the mail sometime in either late June or early July last year.</p>

<p>^^
yeah that proctor really rattle the whole group.
Our student was in the middle of a reading section and doing questions–and had one more section to go…
had that section been about where the others are–the composite score would be at least 2 -3 pts higher at least-- the difference between that low score in the arts/lit and the high score (math) is 10 pts</p>

<p>well-- perhaps we will revisit the ACT–had hoped to be one and done…</p>

<p>SAT2s this weekend
and the SAT in June after a month of APs…and final exams</p>

<p>sigh…</p>

<p>better break out the vit B</p>

<p>another question</p>

<p>If the sub scores in one section are all 18s- then why isn’t that section a 36…its a 35. The detail says the subscores range from 1-18 and the mult choice 1-36. If the sub scores are perfect, shouldn’t the section be a 36?</p>

<p>From the ACT website :How ACT figures the multiple-choice test scores and the Composite score</p>

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<li><p>First we count the number of questions on each test that you answered correctly. We do not deduct any points for incorrect answers. (There is no penalty for guessing.)</p></li>
<li><p>Then we convert your raw scores (number of correct answers on each test) to “scale scores.” Scale scores have the same meaning for all the different forms of the ACT, no matter which test date a test was taken.</p></li>
<li><p>Your Composite score and each test score (English, Mathematics, Reading, Science) range from 1 (low) to 36 (high). The Composite Score is the average of your four test scores, rounded to the nearest whole number. Fractions less than one-half are rounded down; fractions one-half or more are rounded up.</p></li>
<li><p>We compute your seven subscores (Usage/Mechanics, Rhetorical Skills, etc.) in the same way, but subscores range from 1 (low) to 18 (high). There is no direct, arithmetic relationship between your subscores and your test scores—this means your subscores don’t add up to your test score.</p></li>
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<p>… BTW my son did hit his target of 35 composite, but on the Reading section the sub-scores were 18 and 18, but his score was a 35. I had the same reaction as you. Anyway he was very happy …“done with these darned standardized tests …”</p>

<p>If you wait for the AP scores to be mailed, you should receive them mid-July. However, the truly compulsive parent or child can pay to hear them over the phone on July 1st:</p>

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<p>Yes, I’ve paid the $8 every year.</p>

<p>^^hehehe I remember that some did that (hey, compulsive Parents of 20XX thread-lurker here :smiley: )</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>I think I may encourage our student to take a run at the ACT again…the one section interrupted by the bumbling proctor…was vastly different than the other 3 sections–and with the subscores I know exactly which section our student was in at the time…
It will absolutely bring the scores up perhaps as much as 4 pts on the composite…
sigh
too bad I can’t bill the proctor ! And they get PAID</p>

<p>missypie-I would never hear the end of it from D if I got the AP scores early! To quote her last year “it’s not like the SAT’s where I can take the test over and so it matters what I got and might help if I find out earlier”. As much as I wanted to get the scores early, I couldn’t argue with her logic!!</p>

<p>This was recently shared on another thread and I found it really interesting [College</a> Results Online](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/search1b.aspx?institutionid=195003]College”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/search1b.aspx?institutionid=195003) You can plug in any college and then hit similar colleges to see others like it! There is also an expenditure per student number for each college - I’ve never seen that before.</p>

<p>D1 hasn’t texted me her ACT scores. I’m out of town, so I will take that to be bad news, which means she’ll want to take the SAT in October. I will pretend to be clueless and wait for her to bring it up. </p>

<p>I will not be paying for early AP scores. Last year it was a moot point, since she was out of the country and out of reach of cell phones and email for the early date. She was reachable by cell by the time that the snail mail results came. This year it’s going to be the same deal.</p>

<p>I never give the CB any more money than absolutely necessary. Which reminds me, since D2 has only 1 Subject test remaining that she will take in June, she might as well use her free score reports to send everything to a few schools.</p>

<p>…and no, she texted me late last night. 10:30 her time, but 12:30 AM mine :rolleyes: Her overall score went up 2 points, and her superscore went up 4 points :slight_smile: so we will have the summer to consider the SAT-in-Oct question. entomom, we’ve already given so much money to CB that paying for another SAT sitting doesn’t get a rise out of me. They’ve beaten me into submission :)</p>

<p>Having D1 end up on the East Coast would at least move her desire to have heart-to-heart talks at 11 PM to an hour when my brain is more functional. When the parents are on the East coast and the students are on the West, I’m wondering how the parents ever manage to talk to the students, given that heart-to-heart time moves to 2 AM EST. :)</p>

<p>kathiep, thanks for that link, lots of interesting material. And yes, that student expenditure column in particular, though I’d like to see their methodology.</p>

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<p>Is that $8 per call at which you could get multiple scores for the same student (or even another student if theoretically, one had twins :slight_smile: ), or is it $8 per score?</p>

<p>$8 per student, not per call. The year Son had 5 APs, I got all 5 in one call. But if there is a sibling, it’s another $8.</p>

<p>Thanks, missypie!</p>

<p>So … when do people start up the CommonApps? And essays? Esp for those wanting to go ED or EA.</p>