Parents of the HS Class of 2014

<p>Thanks CT1417 – good to know he’s not “out of the running” already. It’s crazy how this process makes you feel – kind of like hoping you’ll get asked to the prom.</p>

<p>momreads – thanks for the info on George Mason! Now we’ll definitely visit and add it to our list.</p>

<p>4beardolls – I like the sound of those personal invites! </p>

<p>NewHavenCTmom – I know how you feel – already kind of exhausted by this whole thing. It’s different the second time around, that’s for sure. Who’d she talk to who steered her in a different direction? It’s a long way before apps need to be submitted – a lot can change.</p>

<p>I have a few pages to catch up on. Just a quick reminder for anyone that is planning on a March SAT testing date, the deadline to register (without the penalty fee) is February 8, so right around the corner. I am glad I set up an email reminder or I would have continued to think I had plenty of time! The second registration was much easier, just look through everything to make sure nothing’s changed really. I did notice S3 has opted not to be sent any mail. I asked him if he wanted to change this and he said he felt he was really getting enough already. I told him I would field the snail mail if he was willing, and he can easily delete email. He just might find something of interest. It will be interesting to see if he really does get any more mail.</p>

<p>I’m a native to Virginia and actually went to GMU year full time while working at night, then a couple of years at night while working full time during the day. It was much different then. S3 has attended a few enrichment camps there so we’ve been on the campus recently and it really is nice. Several of S2’s (2011) classmates are there and doing very well. They are growing out of the ‘suburban commuter school’ reputation slowly, but definitely making headway. Their academics are really quite good.</p>

<p>It would be nice if you could decide whether or not to sign up for March AFTER your January scores come out (on February 14th). :-/</p>

<p>Classof2015 - I graduated from George Mason a thousand years ago. I retoured a few years ago and they’ve really grown and built some amazing facilities! I really enjoyed my time there and it is on the list for m d to see.</p>

<p>They are well regarded with their economics program - several Nobel Prize winners and I felt well educated, never had a clunker professor.</p>

<p>It’s a large-ish school, a few years ago the basketball team was in the final 4.</p>

<p>@Classof2015 She had a conversation with the ISSP Coordinator at her school the Friday before MLK weekend. ISSP is the independent studies support person… she is the one who runs the AP issues @ school/and also signs the kids up for college classes…etc Nice lady but clueless in my opinion. The class was a Af Am studies/film studies class/eleven weeks long. SHe would have been done on April 24th. 11 weeks of work to have a Yale U course on your transcript. Its a no brainer to me. And I realize that dd is busy… but the extra work would have been well worth it. She doesn’t have the luxury of turning down such an amazing gift. I also think she was feeling overwhelmed d/t being disorganized which we quickly rectified a few weeks back. I think she may be regretting her decision already. She seems to think that I am trying to live through her vicariously and I’m not being fair etc. But as I explained to her. In order to be a realistic candidate, she MUST do things now so she has no regrets once she hits that “submit” button next January. And I get that January looks like a long ways away… but it truly isn’t. Yes, alot can change… but not if one lets the bird in the hand fly away. She is also not taking her SAT prep as seriously as she should be. She is sitting for it 4 weeks from today and her scores need to increase. She will get no do overs in this whole process and she needs to strike while the irons are hot and not take anything lightly.</p>

<p>That sounds so frustrating, NewHavenCTMom – you’re just trying to help her and get her into a good program and you get undermined. Did she take the SAT at all yet? (I forget). I know S is not excited about studying or taking it again. They just shut down.</p>

<p>BlueIguana and eyemamom – thanks for the good words about GMU – S is thinking business, so this might be a nice fit for him.</p>

<p>I don’t usually post, but this topic has been top-of-mind at our house lately…D14 has been averaging 10-15 brochures, letter, emails, postcards per day for the last week or so from colleges. The first thing we do is guess which state the unfamiliar college is located in. Second, I encourage her to open and read them, not for helping decide which college to apply to, but to see how universities are trying to get noticed and break through the clutter with their “personalize” mailings. She plans to major in marketing, so I thought this exercise would be educational or even fun. Didn’t work…the bankers and email boxes are filling up with lots of unopened mail of both types.</p>

<p>I was a marketing major and worked in ad agencies for 10 years, so I find the college search process absolutely fascinating. A friend took her daughter to visit a college in another state this fall that was the first to send emails when she was a sophomore. I knew they went because daughter was flattered by the emails, thinking she was special. My D, same age, was receiving the same emails. Obviously, the college’s marketing campaign worked and got a visit out of the family.</p>

<p>Because D is much more likely to listen to a respected adult vs. mom and dad, we employed a respected private college counseling company after her freshman year. Very pricey, but it was the best decision–hands down! Daughter’s grades have soared sophomore and junior year. When daughter gets an award or grades, her first comment is “I can’t wait to tell X, my college counselor”. They’ve really helped her narrow down potential colleges that will be the best fit for her. Although initially skeptical, I’ve been impressed and it’s taken a lot of the pressure off the family :-).</p>

<p>Kees4me, I find the college search process fascinating also which is why I enjoying coming to cc and chat with everyone. I was interested in your comments on your very positive experience with your private college counselor. I thought about hiring one from time to time but just didn’t want to spend that much money since I am already spending a lot of my time on helping DCs on their college search journey. One thing I feel that I’m still not doing a good enough job is to review all these colleges and decide which ones are the best fit for my DCs. If I were to hire a professional, this would be the area I need him/her to focus on.</p>

<p>NewHavenCTmom: About two weeks ago, just before the change in semesters, my husband made an interesting comment about our son. He felt that the kid had too many things on his schedule. He was juggling two midterms (has two, all-year AP classes), indoor track and field practice and meets, NHS, Spanish NHS, being captain of the academic team and competing in a regional DECA meet. Son did not complain, but you could see it in his eyes that he was exhausted. While we all want the best of everything for our kids, sometimes they really do feel overwhelmed. Right now, my son really does not want to talk about college. So, I do the research for him … and then, I present it. I am not selecting his school. Rather, I am offering options. We tell him, the better his scores, the better his running times, the more options he has.</p>

<p>BTW, last night that same very tired young man asked if he could take me out for ice cream – his treat.</p>

<p>My S’14 is on to the marketing strategies. When he gets college mail, he opens it and checks whether it follows the “typical format” he has noticed. The typical format is a letter that has a code in the upper right hand corner to use to log in to their web site. If it is this standard letter, he throws it away, unread, because he says he has read the same thing too many times already. If it is unique, then he reads the whole thing. </p>

<p>This is the kid who hated having to write spelling words 5x each when they were words he knew already. This college search is going to be interesting. One of his biggest concerns is Internet bandwidth in the dorm.</p>

<p>4Beardolls–Re: private college counselors. This was actually a fairly easy decision for us. We know that our D outwardly values the opinions, advice, direction from others WAY more than what we have to say…"Mom, please stop nagging me about…(insert word here…grades, practice, college, cleaning room, etc.). </p>

<p>Back in the dawn of time…both husband and I had awful experiences in HS with the lack of real guidance from our counselors. My HS counselor told me to check the box for business school in the U. of Ill.'s application. Horrid advice, considering you couldn’t apply to the business school until your junior year. Of course I was rejected from my “in-state dream school”. Fortunately, I went to another in-state school where I was offered a scholarship, met my husband (30 years this Sept.), and went on to a successful career, life, etc.</p>

<p>We wanted D to have a different experience. We know her HS guidance counselor is overwhelmed with way too many students. Not her fault–just the way it is today. In fact, she hasn’t even met once with her since she started at the school 18 months ago.</p>

<p>When D was in 9th grade we attended an after-school info meeting from a private counseling service that had ties to my daughter’s middle school. The company had many positive reviews and was currently working with children of 5 of the 9 billionaires in our state (WA–so you can guess who some of the families are…) so we knew they probably were very credible.</p>

<p>They offered three different programs ranging from $3 - 7K. The number of counseling sessions vary depending on the package you go with. They work with kids beginning in 7th grade but our D was just finishing 9th grade when we started. In hindsight, wish we had started in 8th grade so she would have had a better feel for how important 9th grade grades really were. Well…that’s water under the bridge now.</p>

<p>Initially, our D took a custom proprietary 400-question personality profile to help the service understand our daughters interests, dreams, goals, etc. She was assigned a private counselor who met with our her about ever 60 days for an hour. They talked about what classes to take in 10th grade, ECs, summer programs, etc. Her counselor gave her goals to shoot for (GPA, activities, etc.). They also discussed differences and pros/cons between private, public, large, small, secular, etc. colleges.</p>

<p>In the fall of 11th grade they gave her a list of about 50 schools and a matrix for her to fill out to help HER narrow the list down to about 20 best fit schools based on 11 different criteria including: location, cost, # of students, graduation rate, %men vs. women, professors with PhDs, average SAT acceptance scores, class size, etc. Our D was able to score each of the 50 schools and was pretty easily able to narrow down the list to 20+/-.</p>

<p>Two months ago, they asked her to research on her own, those 20 schools and narrow down the list to 10 or so leading candidates. They told her that this list may change depending on actual SAT/ACT scores, not probable scores. What’s great is the list has a variety of schools, some “safety”, some likely, and some reach schools. Their goal is to have kids apply to 8- 10 schools with an 80% acceptance rate.</p>

<p>In the Aug. before Sr. year, kids go to their offices every morning and work on their essays. Her counselors will offer suggestions, and proofing. Their goal is to have the kids’ essays completed so they can “relax” unlike many of their peers who are uber stressed and in denial once school starts. The counselors will help our D decide if she wants apply in the early fall ED or wait for regular decision. </p>

<p>They also help with financial aid questions and forms, scholarships, etc. This was VERY important in our decision to hire a private service. We felt they could help our D get more money for aid/merit, than we could on our own. Parents can sit in on meetings with the kids and counselors, but we’ve chosen to keep most of them private for now. I suspect that will change as we’re getting down to the big decisions including $$$ for college.</p>

<p>Our experience has been fantastic so far. The process has been so helpful and motivating for D. When we first met with them, we asked if D was a good fit for them, since she’s not going to HYPMS and a lot of their clients are. Our D is a good student (3.6 UW GPA) with a very unique and interesting EC sport she’s done for 11 years. She will probably score around 1850+/- on the SAT. Our goal was not for her to go to an Ivy school, but find one that was a great fit for her.</p>

<p>Her counselors have helped our D consider schools outside our state that we would have never thought of–Syracuse, Ithaca, Boston Univ., Univ. of Colorado, etc. D does want to go away to school and we’re totally fine with that. She wants to double major in Marketing/Communications or Fashion Merchandising.</p>

<p>Private counseling has been a great fit for our family and our child. She’s gotten better grades, pushed herself to do additional activities (Business Week Camp, NHS), and get excited about college and a future career. A win-win for us.</p>

<p>Such a great thread. I’m going through this for the 3rd time and, as frequently happens, this D is different from her sisters so I’m trying to make sure I see this through her eyes. She didn’t check the ‘mail’ box on the PSAT so, unlike her sisters, she’s not getting mail although, if she were, I’m sure it’d be like Austinareadad where I’d be the one to sift through it or it’d just become an evergrowing (messy) pile. Junior year is so stressful, though, that I get the kids have a hard time juggling it all. D’s sport just began so she now goes directly from school to lax til 5:30 and then to robotics til 8:30. Doesn’t get home til 9 which is, of course, too late to adequately finish all homework, shower, breath for a few minutes and go to bed at any kind of reasonable hour. I do hate junior year! Guess this turned into a bit of a rant–sorry about that :)</p>

<p>We did just plan a college trip for her February break and I’m on the Parent Board of D2’s college and have a meeting during D3’s spring break. She’ll come with me and tour her sister’s school at that time as well as a few other schools in the area. Can’t wait to hear her thoughts as she sees schools with HER in mind for the first time.</p>

<p>DD has started to get the mountain of mail from the PSAT. I’m separating out the ones she may be interested in based on her distance preferences. The rest is going into a box to be used in the community theatre show I’m producing this spring - we need a large bag of mail so I should have that all set in a few months! If I need more, I’ll just collect more from her friends :)</p>

<p>We’ve got two college tours scheduled for February break when we’re up in Vermont (UVM and St. Mikes) and have a plan to see 4 or 5 more over April break. Now we just have to make it to then as DD is getting really stressed about workload again. She’s supposed to be taking a practice SAT on Saturday and then working with her tutor for an hour on Sunday when it’s still fresh in her mind. She’s scheduled for the March SAT and is getting her wisdom teeth out on February 28th so I’m hoping she’ll feel back to normal by March 9th! I’d think about rescheduling the teeth but they’re really beginning to bother her so I think it’s better to get them out sooner rather than later (and that’s the soonest we can do it!)</p>

<p>I know several of us '14 parents are looking at engineering schools. Just ran across this new report that ranks the top 15 engineering schools in the world:</p>

<p>[Top</a> Engineering Schools: ‘Academic Ranking Of World Universities’ Spotlights Best Programs (PHOTOS)](<a href=“Top Engineering Schools: 'Academic Ranking Of World Universities' Spotlights Best Programs (PHOTOS) | HuffPost Impact”>Top Engineering Schools: 'Academic Ranking Of World Universities' Spotlights Best Programs (PHOTOS) | HuffPost Impact)</p>

<p>@class she sat for the 12/1 test. And will sit for it again on 2/27 at her school. All the juniors in the district now take it late winter/early spring. Her scores weren’t terrible. But not in range for where she wants to apply to college. A few hundred point increase will be great. She is seeing a private tutor on Saturdays. He is a Yale graduate student/physics. 4 weeks to lift off… LOL lets hope his input and my nagging helps. She seems to be fitting in more independent SAT prep since my tirade last week.</p>

<p>NH CT mom–how is she taking the SAT on Feb 27th? I didn’t realize CB allowed testing other than their seven standard test dates (and the Sunday of the same weekend for those who have religious observance conflicts).</p>

<p>Kees4me, thank you for the detailed description of your experience with the private college counselors. I read it with great interest. One question: you stated “They offered three different programs ranging from $3 - 7K.” Is that per what period?</p>

<p>4beardolls: The private counselor charge of $3K - $7K was a one-time fee, payable upfront and is all-inclusive until she leaves for college (undergrad). All the meetings, questionnaires, help with essays, etc are included. If we want to use them again for graduate school, then there will be new fees. I’m not sure if the costs would have been different if we started earlier or later than the beginning of 10th grade. They don’t publish their fees. </p>

<p>Also, because we wanted our daughter to “buy in” and do the work asked of her by her counselors, we had her agree that she would pay 20% of the fee each year. We weren’t about to pay all this money only to have our D blow it off.</p>

<p>Using a private college counselor may not work for everyone, but for our family it was/is a wonderful solution that is helping our daughter navigate through this important process without her feeling like her parents are hounding her constantly about grades, activities, standardized tests, etc.</p>

<p>Kees4me, this price range is a lot less than what I remembered from a couple of ‘big shot’ counselors. I would be open minded to look at a few local ones then.</p>

<p>My advice is to do your homework and read reviews and talk to previous clients. Any reputable counseling service should be happy to offer referrals.</p>

<p>I’m excited to see where D ultimately goes to school, but right now UW Madison and Syracuse are #1 and #2 in her mind today.</p>