Parents of the HS Class of 2017 - 3.0 to 3.4 GPA

@klinska , I second 93pilots’ comments.

My nephew attends UVM and seems quite happy there.

@klinska -

At least your D was able to come to you now before you spent a lot of money at Denison. Congrats on UVM, the campus is very nice.

@klinska - gotta love those last-minute plot twists! I’m so glad you all talked it out and she’ll be heading to where she feels she belongs. (I’m super jealous of your future jaunts to Burlington! Have fun!)

@techmom99 - the avatars are the profile pictures above the poster’s names. Many of us have been updating ours with images and logos related to our kids’ chosen schools.

@cameo43 - I wondered what they were, thanks for explaining it. I will just stick with what the site gives me. Changing it just seems way too complicated. I am lucky that I can log in to the site with my level of computer skills.

@klinska you know you made my night. I too hope/plan to pay off part or all of any loans S17 is taking but needed to know he has real skin in the game. He doesn’t know that either.

I am so (selfishly) excited!

@cameo43 hopefully we can all meet there!

@klinska - So happy that you family and your D figured out what was best for her, just in the nick of time!! It sounds like your D was very thoughtful about the change in her decision, and I hope she has an amazing 4 years there. Happy for @eandesmom to have a pal among the UVM parents! I really appreciate the friendship I’ve had for the past year, with the Grinnell parents I met on CC! It’s been a great little support group of 4, and we look forward to getting together, again, at Returning Students’ Move in Day, in August!

Cool! Thanks for the tip on cut and pasting a multi-part avatar, @Fishnlines29!

@93pilots --sorry to hear your S is stressed, but it’s understandable! My good friend absolutely loved Kenyon for her D last year, but it wasn’t the school she ended up choosing (W&M). If your S really liked the Reed vibe, then maybe he’ll really like it’s culture (maybe it’s only a stressful place for those who don’t fit–??). My S17 is a cool cat, and doesn’t appear stressed (other than an occasional frustration with mom asking–I’ve definitely backed off). I think he knows, and is just letting it marinate for a while longer. Of course, taking an abrupt turn is always possible . . . and if he chooses one of his other options that would be okay too (ala @CoyoteMom ).

@tacocat333 --VT was also not high on S17’s list, but it was on mine (like you). S17 didn’t get any apps in EA, and I’m fairly certain that hurt him quite a lot. Probably was a mistake, but was waiting for 1st semester senior year grades, which were great with highest difficulty . . . not sure. May have to make the same decision with S19.

In some great news for my S17 (no, not THE decision), he has been voted Most Inspirational Player for his varsity sport! He doesn’t know yet and will find out with the rest of the team at the sports banquet . . . I’m super excited for him. I also was able to sneak away from work today to see him get acknowledgement for his four years of ROTC. And last week was his last concert band performance. Bittersweet.

@eandesmom —you’re amazing! =D> I’ll be joining you on the search for S19 schools soon. I think his schools will likely be very different from S17. He might end up with similar stats, but they are definitely different kids.

@NolaCAR --I’ve heard very good things about Willamette, and know several students who had it on their list. A very good friend of mine went there, and taught me “Willamette Damnit”.

@morningside95 --great idea

@klinska --I posted my above posts before I saw your D’s change of schools. That’s what I was referring to as a possible right turn for my S17. I know it happens, and so glad you were tuned into your D so that you felt a discussion was needed. Well done.

Thank you, @mommdc - our budget is much lower than $30k too; I was just going by what our EFC is probably going to show. We are going to end up at a state school unless D’s stats surprise us with some meaty merit. Until then, I like to play to “what if?” game :slight_smile:

@klinska I second the others. Great that your family could sit down and talk it over and find clarity in time to switch! I can relate because while D17 is content with her decision, I had my own crisis over her decision this week and was doing a lot of second-guessing. @eandesmom was kind enough to help me work through it. I think the looming May 1 deadline is causing some anxiety even for some of us who have decisions, but in your case, it sounds like it led to a better decision.

@techmom99 My D17 had to explain “avatar” to me. It’s not that hard to create one on CC, though. As long as you have a graphic or picture on your computer or phone that you want to use, you can do it in about 60 seconds on CC. Of course, you’ll notice mine is just a standard college logo-those 2 part custom ones are too much for my poor tech skills to contend with! Besides, I really like that Willamette’s logo is a compass.

Thanks @Hankster1361.

@klinska , I love a good plot twist – so happy that it seems to be the decision that feels right to all!

@Hankster1361 , congrats on the sport award! What a great way to cap off the year. Re VT, I am just not impressed by their decision system; other big schools don’t seem to have this dart-throwing mentality for admissions. It certainly helps (me!) that VT is pretty much the opposite of the kind of school TacoSon wants anyway.

@techmom99 , I agree about the learning curve about not underestimating our kids who don’t have perfect GPAs. Schools I thought would be reaches for TacoSon really weren’t in the end. I’m glad I had him apply to W&M so we wouldn’t be left wondering if he’d missed his chance for one of the gold rings of VA school, and I consider his waitlist decision there completely brag-worthy! In the end, he’s attending a school that isn’t as competitive as others he got into, but is a really good fit in every way.

@NolaCAR , I’d actually choose TacoSon’s choice school too – that’s kind of a nice decision to arrive at, isn’t it? Though William & Mary stole my heart, I’ll remove it from consideration since “we” (I know!) were WL. I also really liked Franklin & Marshall’s campus vibe. Have I shared that my recurring nightmare throughout this process is that I am returning to college at my present age, and I’m worried about being the only married, middle-aged mom in the dorm?

Ok everyone, before @eandesmom does her final chart, I want to make sure I haven’t misrepresented D17’s GPA. Way back when I started running NPC’s, I asked D’s HS counselor what D’s GPA was on a 4.0 scale since her HS uses a 100 scale, and she said “she has a 93.41 and 93-100 is an A, so she has a 4.0.” But I have to admit, I always wondered if this was correct. Last night DH and I had a long discussion and DH who is more mathematical than am I, helped me take each of D17’s courses and convert them to a 4.0 scale one by one instead of just converting her cumulative gpa which is what the counselor did. If you do it course by course, D17’s gpa is 3.72 uw and 3.86 weighted. Then, just for fun, we did it according to the UC methodology for OOS and came up with 3.88 (UC’s methodology results in a weighted gpa). So I apologize if I’ve been using the wrong gpa all along. Curious how others whose schools use 100 point scales do it? Which one is the “right” way to do it? DH thinks the course by course method is the most mathematically correct, but he thinks the cumulative method is more just.

I’ve gotten my first two PMs with info on where the kids are going…keep 'em coming! I can try to mine the thread if need be but you’d save me a lot of time if you just sent me a pm. :)>-

@NolaCAR I was told not to try to convert it since many schools have a slightly different methodology! I just put the % down for the chart.

@klinska So happy to hear your daughter was able to speak up and state her final choice! Congrats on UVM and I hope you guys all connect and have fun at move in :slight_smile:

@kt1969 - I sent you a PM but let me express my public gratitude to you and @eandesmom for your hard work. Thsi is one of the few things that makes me sad I didn’t have that 6th kid so I could come back to CC to shepherd another child through this process, lol.

@CoyoteMom Congrats on Beloit! We still get some emails from them and that is the school that I am most sad at taking off the list. Great school!

@klinska Congrats on having that conversation and making the decision that is truly the best fit!

@Gatormama here are a few we looked at, but didn’t apply to that might hit your price point

University of Wyoming
Bradley University
Alfred University
Rowan University
Northern Arizona

@Motiv8tedmom23 Mines is an amazing school but far above S19’s stats and too competitive for him. SD14 applied and didn’t get in with far far better stats, though significantly less rigor.

@cameo43 love the new avatar!

@Hankster1361 thanks for pointing out it cut off. I was trying to get all the pages up before having to shut down (shhhh it’s easier to do at work where I have 2 monitors) and a page break in the 40 page word doc (no joke thanks to the coding lol) made me think I was done. Super annoying, I wanted them continuous!

I’m rooting for WashU

Most inspirational player? That is SOOOO coool! Congratulations.

@1822mom thanks!

@93pilots your situation reminds me of @CoyoteMom 's one with Carleton. That’s a tough call! But all amazing options.

@NolaCAR I might have chosen U of CO Boulder lol. Although honestly, I really liked Allegheny and would have been a much better student! I’m not sure that any of S17’s schools would have been my top picks for me but I really wonder sometimes what life would have been like had I considered an LAC or any other option than our flagship. Don’t worry about the GPA.

We have a similar range where an A is anything about 93 but the gpa varies from 3.7-4.0 once the math is done. I will fix for the final final. This is a standard scale many schools use. Ours only uses about 5 points, A=4, A-=3.7, B+=3.3 and so on. When they calculate it out though you then end up in the middle, along these lines. What I learned was the % shown for the class didn’t really matter, they’d get the letter grade value assigned regardless of whether the % was top of bottom of he grade range. So, an 89 in a class wouldn’t get a 3.4, it would be the 3.3 if that makes sense.

4 100 A
4 99 A
4 98 A
4 97 A
4 96 A
4 95 A
3.9 94 A
3.8 93 A
3.7 92 A-
3.6 91 A-
3.5 90 A-
3.4 89 B+
3.3 88 B+
3.2 87 B+
3.1 86 B
3 85 B
2.9 84 B
2.8 83 B
2.7 82 B-
2.6 81 B-
2.5 80 B-
2.4 79 B-
2.3 78 C+
2.2 77 C+
2.1 76 C+
2 75 C
1.9 74 C
1.8 73 C
1.7 72 C-
1.6 71 C-
1.5 70 C-
1.4 69 D+
1.3 68 D+
1.2 67 D+
1.1 66 D
1 65 D
0.9 64 D
0.8 63 D
0.7 62 D
0.6 61 D
0.5 60 D
0.4 59 F
0.3 58 F
0.2 57 F
0.1 50 F
0 49 F

Thanks @eandesmom. I do understand what you’re saying about an 89 getting a 3.3 instead of a 3.3. The scale I used, found on College Board, went like this:
93-100 = 4.0
90-92 = 3.7
87-89 = 3.3
83-86= 3.0
80-82 = 2.7
77-79 = 2.3
73-76 = 2.0
70-72 = 1.7
67-69 = 1.3

I guess you could just show D’s % like @Fishnlines29 suggests, which would be 93.41.

Oops, that should have said an 89 getting a 3.3 instead of a 3.4.