Parents thread! 2014-2015

<p>@momcam , yes, stockton area can be a little scary at times! However my parents never had any problems with crime or feeling unsafe while on the campus. I actually went and visited it (the campus is gorgeous!), and I loved that it is still in California but still lets me get far enough away from home. I didn’t decide to apply because they didn’t have my interested major. But if I would have decided to major in physical therapy, it would have been one of my top choices! </p>

<p>Declined RPTA, and so this horrible wait is over, moving on to a great college who wishes to educate my awesome daughter!</p>

<p>D rejected for CS with good stats. Congrats to those accepted! Moving on, glad to finally get an answer. This has been the least enjoyable notification process for ANY school so far. All these incredible kids are going to end up somewhere great, even if it’s not where they “thought” they wanted to go. The UC’s will be accepting many of them because they will look at it holistically & appreciate their work.</p>

<p>My D was rejected for Kinesiology. We are just happy to have an answer. To tell you the truth, after she was accepted to four other schools she really wasn’t as upset about the rejection. </p>

<p>I think Comp Sci must have almost filled up during EA considering the little amount of acceptances and wait lists reflected on the other thread that this thread spun off of. There are only something like 60 real slots. S rejected 4.13 weighted UC/CSU, 32 ACT (36 Science 35 math) 2100 SAT, IB full candidate (14 AP/IB classes counting senior year) Calculus BC AP 5, APUSH 5, Physics AP 5, Bio AP 4, WH AP 4, Spanish AP 6/7, Physics IB 5/7 Varsity lacrosse. He got into UCSB and waiting on many more! Congratulations to all of your kids on great achievements during high school. Hope your kids all end up in great places next year!</p>

<p>D rejected for Bio with 4.2 and 30 ACT. Many other friends were accepted to other programs with lesser stats…all in the major one selects. She’s on to an oos private with a significant merit scholarship (go figure) so we are all going to be ok.</p>

<p>Son rejected to business with very good stats. Thankfully he never wanted to go there and it was my idea of a “safety school” as his goals were top 10 publics out of state where he has been accepted into highly ranked business programs…funny how my tax dollars will be paying for others education here in CA where he was declined while my income will be paying for him to attend a great National school that hypothetically should have been far harder to get into then the one he was rejected from. </p>

<p>For those that would call that sour grapes, it’s not it’s just the truth. </p>

<p>Same situation with my son. Cal Poly was not his first choice so the rejection did not matter too much. However, I find it interesting that he was accepted into a CS honors program at an out of state nationally ranked flagship university and given merit aid. California is losing a lot of good students to other states. As a California tax payer for over three decades, I find this upsetting.</p>

<p>This is based mainly on an oddity fairly particular to CP SLO, applicants are not only require a declare a major, but rank only against other students who declared the same major. BME for example had more than 1000 applicants for less than 100 slots. That creates, for certain majors, situations that are very analogous to Stanford, WAY to many qualified applicants for the slots they have. Poly is a lot like Tufts, once viewed as a safety, it is now very sought after and is thus a difficult admit for many majors.</p>

<p>@Texasbound “Thankfully he never wanted to go there and it was my idea of a “safety school” as his goals were top 10 publics out of state where he has been accepted into highly ranked business programs…”</p>

<p>First of all, congratulations to your son for getting in to the program he desired! I’m sure he will be very happy there.</p>

<p>It is a common misconception that people consider Cal Poly a “safety” or think that it is easier to get into than OOS public universities. Even though it is a CSU, it is it much harder for a California kid to gain admission into the more impacted majors at Cal Poly, than most flagship public universities from other states. Texas A&M, for instance, which is highly regarded, has guaranteed admission to everyone who qualifies as an Academic Admit (including OOS applicants). An Academic Admit is defined as one who graduates in the top quarter of their high school graduating class and achieves a combined SAT (CR+M) score of at least 1300 with at least 600 in each of these components; (or achieves a composite ACT score of at least 30 with at least 27 in Math and English). As you can see, many (if not most) of those posting rejections to Cal Poly on CC would have qualified as Academic Admits at Texas A & M. </p>

<p><a href=“http://admissions.tamu.edu/freshman/admitted”>http://admissions.tamu.edu/freshman/admitted&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>This is just one example, but many public universities from other states have admission criteria that is easier to achieve than what it takes to get into many majors at CP. Remember, just as California schools want OOS students who pay higher tuition, so do other states universities want California kids who will pay higher tuition.</p>

<p>Ralph, Texas A&M takes 3% out of state students and has something like 45K students! Same basics at UT Austin. So what that says to me is that Texas is doing a better job of taking care of it’s own students then California…I wish California would prioritize the children of the people who pay into the system as kids as successful as we have seen on these threads shouldn’t be turned away. (CP reports 11% OOS) Additionally, most of the nationally ranked publics are far larger and therefore accept more students…so is it easier to get in or are other states just better equipped to educate more deserving kids? </p>

<p>California is failing it’s residents…this isn’t limited to Cal Poly but includes many UC’s in my opinion too. The problem is systemic within the state. </p>

<p>Texas bound, Texas A&M is an entirely different beast. It has one of the highest private endowments for a public…something like 7-8 billion!</p>

<p>And although UC Riverside is more selective (54.7%than Texas A&M (67.1%) CA has many opportunities for instate residents. I think SFSU and SDSU are slightly more selective too, but have low OOS percentages. </p>

<p>@Texasbound, That’s great that Texas is taking care of their own even without a state income tax! My point was that Cal Poly is much harder for California kids to be admitted to than many other states’ flagship public universities. There are, however, 31 other public universities in California. Cal Poly is just a VERY attractive option for too many high performing in-state kids with its reputation for educational excellence, its location (and weather) on the central California coast, and its relatively low cost. I agree with you that they should focus more on educating the in-state kids (whose families pay high state taxes) or at least raise the price higher for out-of-state kids. Cal Poly’s OOS tuition is $19,884 compared to academically comparable UCSB’s OOS tuition of $36,624. No wonder many OOS kids choose Cal Poly!</p>

<p>@heyitsmee, Wow that’s amazing that Texas A&M has this kind of private endowment. It’s amazing what people will donate when they are not taxed to death! Texas has no state income tax. </p>

<p>Heyitsmee…Texas schools take their top 10% guaranteed the campus of their choice so about 85% of their freshman class are guaranteed admittance. The holistic review students stats were basically 14% of 18,000 students accepted (2500). Because Texas takes care of it’s own, not just at A&M but at UT Austin as well, they are very hard schools to get into outside of Texas top 10%. Additionally, this addresses diversity because it’s the top 10% of your own high school class. </p>

<p>If you prefer UCR or SFST, go for it but that would be very short sighted. Their huge endowment is because their alums love their schools and cough up the cash to support then, I can’t think a negative way to slant that so not sure what your point was! </p>

<p>Cal Poly turned away a national merit semi finalist as reported here and that really shouldn’t happen. My point isn’t Texas schools are better schools (although some are), it is that a state like Texas puts it own residents first, sacrificing the ability to play admissions roulette. Clear criteria and guaranteed result, I can’t think of a thing wrong with that! And as Ralph points out, all without a state income tax! I think it would be great if California found a way to guarantee to reward our top students with out making them play these waiting games with at times, random results and an emphasis in attracting OOS dollars. </p>

<p>Ralph, your comments always show a great understanding of the many different admissions processes. </p>

<p>As an out of state parent, the value is part of it, but it isn’t cheap, particularly factoring in the low 4 year graduation rate. </p>

<p>My son applied to eight schools, has been accepted into seven and is waiting on one more. Of the seven he’s accepted to, publics (in and out of state) and privates, with merit aid factored in, Cal Poly will cost us more than any of the rest, more than double his state engineering flagship (Oregon State). </p>

<p>He wants to go to Cal Poly because of how they teach and how strongly their graduates are sought after. The location doesn’t hurt, but UCSB and UCSD are also both in good locations and neither pinged his radar.</p>

<p>@Texasbound, Thanks for the compliment. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>As one who attended Texas A & M University I can tell you that the 10% rule in Texas is not without controversy. As you pointed out, it accomplishes diversity because they guarantee acceptance to the top 10% of each and every high school. But this upsets many from high performing, competitive high schools because there are so few spots available to anyone outside the top 10%. Many times a student in the 11th, or 12th, 25th, or 35th percentile at a high performing high school will have better grades (or course rigor) and SAT/ACT scores than a student in the top 10% at a lower performing high school who gets the spot above them. This problem is somewhat alleviated by the Academic Admit rule which guarantees admission to kids in the top quarter as long as they have high enough SAT/ACT scores. But for those who just miss the Academic Admit cutoff, but still have higher grades/SAT scores than kids in the top 10% at another high school, it feels unfair. The advantage goes to those in the lower performing schools. There is no perfect system.</p>

<p>Well, this admission process has been interesting to say the least. I figured I was a seasoned pro since my older son went through the process last with SLO but I definitely wasn’t prepared for the “fun” this year. My older son applied RD with a less competitive major than his brother for Class of 2017 (Environmental Science vs. Software Engineering for younger bro). My older S had a 4.12 UC GPA/ 25 ACT while his brother has a 3.73 UC GPA/ 31 ACT. Older S got accepted on Feb 14. Younger S deferred from ED in December and finally rejected yesterday. Ok more competitive major/more competitive applicants this year??? Last year 15 students from our high school were accepted to SLO (5 ED and 10 RD). This year 3 students accepted (1 ED and 2 RD). Can this be a coincidence that last years class was largest ever??
I truly believe that the admissions process no matter how transparent is still a crapshoot. My older S went into the college admissions game with a good attitude and no clear favorites. He figured he would sit back and wait for acceptances before making any kind of decisions. For his younger brother, SLO was the clear favorite and watching him check daily the portal since December has been really hard to watch but in the end, he took the rejection well. A few hours after he found out, he made the decision to attend his 2nd choice SDSU, although he has yet to hear from UCD/UCSB/UCI. He is happy with his decision and has already SIR’d and applied for housing. After all these months, I think he is glad to have this over and so is Mom. I am not denying the SLO is a very good school, but just frustrated like many of the posters that decisions should come out in a more timely manner. Good Luck to all the parents and their amazing kids. You should be very proud!!!<br>
FYI: Older son chose UCD over SLO. Best decision he ever made…1) Can easily change his major, if he wants 2) Has had no problem getting classes 3) No crazy registration process (more units you have, earlier your registration time) 4) Not crammed into a triple thats meant as a double
4) The best food of any of the UC’s</p>

<p>@Gumbymom, your last point is very important. Your statement likely isn’t because he would have disliked SLO, but because he really likes Davis. The important thing to remember through all of this is that the vast number of kids are very happy no matter where they end up, even if the school was their third or fourth choice. By the middle of Fall semester, most kids who didn’t get into Poly, if they look back at Poly at all, will be wondering “What was I thinkin’?” because they will be so happy and well adjusted wherever they land. Good luck to all.</p>

<p>@eyemgh: I agree that my older son did not chose UCD over SLO because he disliked SLO, he chose UCD for a better fit. I am also sure my younger son, chose SDSU for the same reason (a better fit) although he may have never come to the conclusion unless he was denied. Our kids will end up at the college that they were meant to attend. I am just glad I am done with college admissions. What’s next?? Grad school???</p>