<p>Wiscongene, I agree with you. Those trying to live the MTV lifestyle absolutely suck. I rarely go to frat or house parties. Usually I’m a pretty productive person, but I enjoy going to the occasional rave and tripping/rolling there once a month or so. I’m all about the music and openness that brings and it makes me an overall happier person. It’s all about how much control you have over it. But I’d say in my knowledge of people who use drugs, they tend to be not very judgmental, and really more kind and open than most people I know who don’t use.</p>
<p>But I’m sure a lot of the people who do drugs in high school are really annoying. I find the people in college who use drugs (not talking about cokeheads here, just people who do the fairly safer drugs) to be a lot more mature. I’m sure there are a lot of drug circles where people take them for the wrong reasons, and I bet those people are annoying and they suck a lot - drugs bring that out in people. But you’re being judgmental and annoying when you lump ALL drug users in one category. You’re actually being judgmental and annoying when you lump all of any sort of people in one category. Keep an open mind, regardless of what people do on their days off - you’ll probably have more friends and be a lot happier.</p>
<p>Stop with the “MTV lifestyle” bs. Myself and others don’t “party” because it’s “hip”, or “cool”, or “what all the popular kids do”. I don’t think the world is “all-fun, all-the-time”, I work hard most of the time so that I can have fun some of the time. You are being far too calculating. You can’t classify all “partiers” as those who believe in hedonism and are destroying the Western World. I can’t wait until you get to college. You will realize those kids smoking and drinking will be your peers, and likely your superiors in class. I don’t understand how you can make such a general statement… it’s ridiculous to be honest.</p>
<p>Some dude a couple pages back called my something that was blocked out (didn’t count the asterisks so I don’t even know what he said.) </p>
<p>Look, I don’t care about that. I’m not some sort of baby and this <em>is</em> the internet, but it annoys me that people can be so blatant about their illegal drug usage. And I seriously, seriously cannot understand how it’s entertaining to lose control of your mind/body. </p>
<p>Now, I like to think everyone on this site is pretty intellectual. But I will say that I haven’t personally met a single person that I’d consider to be more intellectual than yours truly who also “rolled” (as you say).</p>
<p>And just so no one gets the wrong impression, I’ve met plenty of people who were smarter than me–just none that smoked weed.</p>
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<p>Ok, this is interesting. What are the “right reasons” then? This is what I’ve been trying to understand.</p>
<p>We have nothing to be ashamed of. Most people aren’t so judgmental, and accept us based on our personal qualities, not how we have fun. </p>
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<p>You don’t “lose control”. You have no right to make that statement until you have tried it.</p>
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<p>I saw my high school’s valedictorian who got a 2360 his first time on the SAT drinking at a party this weekend. But no, he’s probably not as smart as you.</p>
<p>I said people who smoked weed. I don’t drink, but will admit that I’ve found that the general population tends to be accepting of it and that the “culture” is one that isn’t necessarily anti-intellectual.</p>
<p>@Wiscongene, why would it annoy you when other people talk about it? Do you have to read it? </p>
<p>“I’ve met plenty of people who were smarter than me–just none that smoked weed.” - I really doubt that. Senior year, I’ve smoked and drank just about every weekend and maintained straight A’s so far and managed a 34 ACT in December. I’m not bragging, because these stats aren’t impressive around here, just defending my human right to party without judgement.</p>
<p>“And I seriously, seriously cannot understand how it’s entertaining to lose control of your mind/body.” - You never know until you try. Honestly, have you not noticed that people have been doing it for a really long time now? It’s fun. At most parties, everybody lets their guard down, loses inhibitions, and, usually, has a really good time. It’s not the “MTV Lifestyle”, it’s genuinely fun.</p>
<p>Of course they do. I could feasibly formulate an argument concerning which Harvard students partake and which ones don’t that would support my more general premise, but that’s a thread for another time…</p>
<p>Anyway, I live in Wisconsin…I’ve had drinks before… </p>
<p>I was thoroughly confused as to how it could be fun. It lowers your inhibitions but it makes you feel like an idiot. How “fun” is that?</p>
<p>Chalk it up to me being “uncool” if you like. I’m not cool as far as being the life of the party goes, and more and more I feel like I should wear that like it’s a badge of honor…</p>
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<p>I have to read it because I’m a soon-to-be college student and I have to put up with it. And I don’t like it nor understand it. I’m merely voicing my annoyance about the thing and stating why I feel this way.</p>
<p>“I’ve had drinks before”, “I was thoroughly confused as to how it could be fun. It lowers your inhibitions but it makes you feel like an idiot. How “fun” is that?”
Ok, you’ve “had drinks before”. Have you been drunk? At a party? With drunk friends? The evidence points to no. And in what way does it make you feel like an idiot? Your own stupidity is relative to the people around you, and when everyone is drunk, you shouldn’t feel self-conscious. Well, maybe YOU should.</p>
<p>Nobody is calling you uncool for not drinking. We’re calling you uncool for being a judgmental, close-minded prick.</p>
<p>Of course, every human being fits this hypothesis of yours.</p>
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<p>Lower inhibitions: Fact
Make you feel like an idiot: Opinion</p>
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<p>No one is calling you uncool. I don’t care if you party or not, I only care if judge others based on if they drink or smoke. I’d like to think that my personality makes me a good person, despite the fact I’ve smoked before.</p>
<p>“I have to read it because I’m a soon-to-be college student and I have to put up with it. And I don’t like it nor understand it. I’m merely voicing my annoyance about the thing and stating why I feel this way.”</p>
<p>Wait, so being a soon-to-be college student forces you to click on a thread called “party scene ccers” in the high school forum? How exactly does that work?</p>
<p>One thing I promised myself I would never do on this site is get involved in something so petty. Congrats my friend, you win. Thanks for contributing to the debate, btw.</p>
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<p>I’m not going to play that game with you. The thread is about parties so I made a post about my opinion on partying and I am defending my opinion.</p>
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<p>I seriously can not imagine an instance in which a person would drink recreationally if they were NOT out with friends at a party. I think you’d have to be pretty dumb to just sit around and pump your body with a toxic substance if you weren’t gonna be social about it…</p>
<p>You didn’t answer my question, but I’m going to assume that you have been drunk at a party then? And apparently you had no fun? Well, you’re either part of a small minority of people, or your parties/friends aren’t very fun. Either way, you have very little room to judge anyone else.</p>
<p>Well, the latter is true because they certainly fit the stereotype I’ve been describing. The former is true up until the “small minority” part. There are plenty more people who don’t partake in such revelry as there are people who do.</p>
<p>You’re not being petty? I’m sorry, can you not see how petty you’re being, making huge generalizations and deliberately putting down other users by insulting their intelligence?</p>
<p>The only advice I can give you is this: for your own sake, grow up. </p>
<p>Not everyone lives your lifestyle, and their doing so does not put them below you in any way, nor does it make you smarter than them. </p>
<p>As an occasional, responsible drug user, I’ve found your posts to be highly insulting. I do not live “the MTV lifestyle.” I do not live anything close to that. And I guarantee you that CrystalJ, RoxSox, Francaisalamatt, and Wiz do not either.</p>
<p>“small minority” meaning people who were drunk at a party with friends and had no fun. I understand that there are plenty of people who don’t party.</p>
<p>Smoking weed at Harvard sounds pretty reasonable. A bunch of kids at the local Top 35 US News nationally ranked high school were recently kicked off a trip for doing it in the hotel rooms.</p>
<p>I insulted no one’s intelligence, I applauded the people on this site for being intellectual. </p>
<p>I’m the one who needs to grow up in a world where people can’t realize the foolishness of their actions and their failure to take responsibility? No lifestyle in which recreational drug use is a supplement is better than the same lifestyle would be without the drugs. </p>
<p>I said I found it hard to believe that someone could find enjoyment when they weren’t themselves, did so much as to mention a stereotype that I’ve found to be true (and that other posters have even acknowledged to be true to an extent), and was promptly called a “******” by another poster. </p>
<p>Yea, I’m the one who needs to grow up…</p>
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<p>And if you believe the non-partiers would enjoy it, then why don’t they partake in it?</p>