<p>Michigan can party, but nowhere near the other schools we have been talking about such as ASU, MSU, OSU, WISCO, FSU etc.</p>
<p>University of Iowa has been voted one of the top party schools for a long time. They even have a detox center on campus. It's academics aren't too bad, either, but nothing like an Ivy.</p>
<p>FSU MBA, not to bash your school, but you can't tell acarta to do his research when clearly you have not done any yourself. I know selectivity is not a defining criteria for a school's intellectual environment, but the average ACT score for applicants who were awarded acceptance is a measly 25. Princeton Review issued a grade of "64" for its academics -- and that's out of 100. You can hardly call it one of the Top 80 National schools. Don't get me wrong, FSU is wonderful if you're into underage drinking and heavy partying, but in terms of academics, it's not regarded in a good light.</p>
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FSU MBA, lets not base your research on projections. you say it will "probably" bounce back to the top 50 and 80 national. well ill give u a fact and not a probable proection. Right now, according to U.S News, The Washington Monthly, Vanguard and the academic world university rankings by Shiang Tao University, FSU is dfinately not the top 50 public universitites int he U.S and definately not the top 80 national. Moreover, US News ranks it 110, and U.S News gives it the best ranking. Others of the aforementioned ranking guides have ranked FSU as 150, 200, 120....
You also mentioned, FSU normally ranks better, well according to U.S New's rankings from 2005 and 2004, FSU has not changed at all this year. It was ranked 109th last year.
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<p>You have obviously missed the most important term when he quoted the rankings for FSU. PUBLIC, it should have stood out to you. It is something you should consider before you continue to belittle his post. And from public schools, it is actually ranked 52. And i am sorry to inform you, but U Miami does not have a top ranked law school. If you were to consider that "top ranked," you will indeed have to include FSU in the same category</p>
<p>Read my post again, I never claimed that FSU was great academically. I said it was decent, in response to a poster that called it "bad". Im not here to start an argument over opinions. The facts are that for law school UF is ranked #41, FSU is #53, UM is #65. For business school FSU is ranked #43 nationally and #25 among public universities. UF's COB is #32 and Miami is #70. There's a ton of programs that are nationally ranked and also ranked ahead of UF and UM, but I don't have time to type them all. Let it be clear that I agree that both UF and UM are great schools, I was setting the record straight about someone claiming that my school was "bad". If youre going to label FSU as "bad", I guess Ohio U is also "bad". I'm guessing that Oregon, Utah, Oklahoma, ASU, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Temple, Loyola, and Seton Hall are all 'horrible" universities since they are ranked below FSU. In reality, we all know that's not the case.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the topic of this thread. I think Texas, Ohio State, Georgia, UCSB, and Colorado would fit this category.</p>
<p>Florida State is underrated academically. It has some really excellent programs. It has a reputation for being a party school and not much else. Like San Diego State, it is getting much harder to get into and it's trying hard to change its image. FSU only accepts 59 % of its applicants (though you do have to remember that the public school system in Florida is among the worst in the United States).</p>
<p>FSU MBA- don't go by the US News rankings, a large part of their rankings is based on the school's endowment.</p>
<p>wow.. haha the FSU vs the world battle rages on in practically every thread in CC.
It is very amusing and please keep up the good work(bashing - counter bashing)</p>
<p>um did any other school besides Penn State move Saint Patricks day to today because the real one is on spring break. That makes it a number 1 party school with excellent academics</p>
<p>no it doesn't</p>
<p>Why is it that people always think that Florida State is an inferior school, in my opinion and please understand that i'm biased but it does its job perfectly. FSU is not the flagship university in the state, UF is, so FSU has to play second fiddle and in my opinion does a great job at it, the film, legal, music, international relations and education studies are highly acclaimed and rated. It average gpa and sat/act scores are on par with such universities such as university of colorado, university of arizona, university of pacific,university of washington,university of iowa, yet its ranked alot lower than all of these for reasons that i dont understand nor know. I think it has to do with state universities being disrepected....</p>
<p>true. I always thought that if a school had 'state' in it's name it was inferior. In todays world that doesn't matter at all(90%) .... look at:
Ohio State>Ohio U
ASU>U Arizona (IMO)
etc etc etc</p>
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University of Arizona is a better school for academics. "The University of"... is almost always better.</p>
<p>University of Washington > Washington State
University of Florida > Florida State
University of Georgia > Georgia State
University of Michigan > Michigan State
University of Texas > Texas A & M
University of Colorado > Colorado State
University of Kansas > Kansas State</p>
<p>etc..</p>
<p>Yea I Ha dnever though of State meaning inferior however worried student does make a point. i tried to think of a few with State tht beat the Universities of. I only found 2.
Indiana University beating Indiana State
The Ohio State University beating Ohio University. </p>
<p>Academically thats the case but not necesarilly the experience and social life one actually experiences.</p>
<p>Michigan State has imo a prettier campus that U of M and a way better party scene. academically U of M is way better however MSU still ranks very well nationally (is in the top 50 public schools list) and is a Public Ivy League. </p>
<p>Texas a&M is another. UT austing beats it by a lot but i dont see A&M as inferior. I among many others recognize A&M as a top school academically. </p>
<p>Wat about NC State. not as good as UNC but still has a very good national rep. </p>
<p>I might be wrong but I dont think schools with State are inferior to most public schools on a nationa level as many rank in the top 50 public uni's.</p>
<p>If your looking for a Top 25 school, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, UMich, and UVA would be your Top 5 for Parties (not necessarily in that order)</p>
<p>Just to further my point.
The state university system of florida has a budget of 7.41 billion dollars.
of which University of Florida gets $1.9 billion per year, while FSU only gets 936million. Even the university of south florida gets more money they recieve 1.089 billion showing how the own state seems to allot more funds to the other universities than the one located in its capital.</p>
<p>Anyways the debate on the inferiority of the word "state" in the name of a university is quite evident, many people seem to cringe when they hear of there state university which is why i believe they are considered much lower than "university of"</p>
<p>Academics, parties, and cheap tuition... (comparatively)</p>
<p>McGill!!</p>
<p>There's only a few "state" schools on the top schools list. Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State, NC State, Florida State, Washington State, Colorado State, and Kansas State. Ohio State and Penn State(Penn is private) are the best public universities on their own state. Rutgers full name includes "The State University of New Jersey", maybe they count as a "state" school too.</p>
<p>yeah, most 'state' schools are inferior to the 'University of ..' schools in their state. However I believe it used to be that you could only get a Bachelors or Associates degree at a state school and you could get both of those and a masters or PhD at a 'U of ..' school.
I remember something like this.</p>
<p>I do agree that Penn State and Ohio State are maybe the only state schools that are better overall than their states U of ... schools. Still that doesn't make all state schools bad and you can't just judge a school by their name.
Lot's of state schools have better academics depts. than the states U of ... schools.</p>
<p>Neither Penn State or Ohio State have any "Univ. of ..." Schools to contend with. Pitt is a "Univ. of..." a city and was a private, commuter school, until recently. Ohio Univ, was a small public liberal arts college when OSU was founded as the state land-grant, flagship. In both Ohio and PA, OSU and PSU are the flagship state schools; they don't have another public research U that competes with them (Pitt does, on a level, but it's not the same).</p>
<p>You have to be careful with broad one-size fits all analogies, because states developed their higher ed systems differently. In some cases the "State" school (MSU, PSU, OSU) are land grant schools, but not so in Florida, Indiana and Arizona, to name a few...</p>