<p>BIOL 11 GENERAL BIOLOGY 4 Units
No. 0760: Short Term Class: 10/27/06 to 12/16/06
#0760 10:20 AM- 1:40 PM FSat LecLab U408 Belzer T J
& 1:40 PM- 5:00 PM FSat LecLab U221 Belzer T J</p>
<p>Does anyone feel like cramming another breadth class during this semester? I'm probably going to add this class this friday.</p>
<p>ewww souplantation... damn vegetarians.</p>
<p>i heard about zankou chicken sounds good, must check it out sometime.</p>
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i'm having uyekawa for math 5c right now and she really is a good professor....her notes are crystal clear and lecture is top notch...she always relate the math topic to real world application stuff so we know what we're actually computing
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<p>She's really great, but most people just got B. I'm one of them. :(</p>
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People don't finish PCC in two years? What?!</p>
<p>Well I've talked to two people and they've been there for like three years now but I took it because they started off with really low level math. I don't see why people complain about the scheduling difficulties. I had a late registration date but even then I got a pretty decent schedule. I'll have to be taking Math 5A and English 1A in the Winter however but that is because I had a late registration date. Shouldn't be too hard
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<p>Pcc is much better now, after 2005, I can add any courses without going thru crappy lucky draws. But around 2002-2004, people had great difficulty in adding closed course, especially for ochem and other courses that have labs. And for the other course, you had to be lucky to win the lucky draw in order to get into class.</p>
<p>Oh yes I heard that PCC currently has the least amount of people compared to the amount of people it has had in the past five years.</p>
<p>It still is impossible to add to any closed ochem classes. I don't think any of the ochem teachers here added anyone this semester. </p>
<p>TB54, since you're at ucla right now, how well did you think pcc prepared you? I'm also a science major, and I would like to know how the science classes at pcc compare with the ones at ucla.</p>
<p>but the comparisons would be somewhat inaccurate because he would be comparing upper division courses, which are generally more difficult, to lower division courses, which are much easier</p>
<p>Moonboy is correct in that comparing upper division versus lower division is not fair. Also, chemical engineering is not a heavy chemistry based major, it's more like 60% physics, 20% chemistry and 20% math. A lot of the classes I take are equivalent to mechanical engineers (thermodynamics/fluid mechanics), just more specialized for the Chem E field. </p>
<p>However, PCC did prepare me to think rather then just plug and chug. I had some great professors (Dr. Shi, Dr. Wang, Dr. Sweimeh and Mrs. Huber) who taught me to learn rather then just "copying examples." Overall, I was ill-prepared for the semester to quarter system adjustment. Other then that, everything else seems fine. </p>
<p>Edit: Also a lot of the engineering courses tend to be, "swim for your life to barely survive or else fail." On my mid-term, there were 3 questions in 2 hours. First problem took me 30 minutes, second problem took me 45 minutes and third I did not even finish which was the case of many others. It's not easy comparing engineering courses to a general science background since engineering is different then let's say biology. It's like comparing ice cream versus broccoli, which one taste better?</p>
<p>In regards to PCC's classes: </p>
<p>I did transfer out of PCC in 2 years however there is a bit of resentment towards the structure of classes. It's pretty stupid in my opinion to put in so many pre-requisite no-use classes, I call them "speedbumps," which just takes up valuable time. Examples of these are Chem 22, CS2, Math 10/55. A lot of times universities just put Math 10/55 together for 1 quarter, Chem 22/CS2 pretty much doesn't exist. </p>
<p>Why defer the student to achieving their goal when your main mission is helping students to achieve their goal? A bit ironic if you ask me. </p>
<p>Overall though, I had a blast at PCC. Was fun, met a lot of people and came out with something new. </p>
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<p>Thanks for the reply. I was just curious about the adjustment to a uc from a community college because I'm planning to transfer fall 07.</p>
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Oh yes I heard that PCC currently has the least amount of people compared to the amount of people it has had in the past five years.
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<p>I had to go thru a lot of lucky draws when I was in PCC. Also, I had to wait for a year to get in Biol 1A, and that was a freaking summer course. The experience of adding ochem class is so horrible. I tried to add PCC ochem course 2 times and failed. Then I was forced to drive all the way from East LA to SMC in order to get in an ochem course.</p>
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Thanks for the reply. I was just curious about the adjustment to a uc from a community college because I'm planning to transfer fall 07.
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<p>In UC, everything is just in a very fast pace. I didn't have to study until third week when I was in CC. But now it's better to start reading books and doing problems before the quarter starts. </p>
<p>Stuffs of upper division courses are not that bad, cuz I have learned all the basic stuff in CC. For example, I finished molecular bio in cc, now I'm taking biochem, and I saw my classmates have difficulty in understanding enzyme kinetics, cuz they haven't learned that b4. My molecular bio's teacher spent one and half lectures, which is about 3 hours, to cover it, while prof in uc just spent like 50 minutes to finsih it. </p>
<p>Of course exams are more challenging in UC too.</p>
<p>I don't know how it is for the L&S majors, but for HSSEAS, lectures are difficult to understand. A lot of the upper division professors do admit this. Hence the saying, "rinse and repeat." One of my professors suggested, "Drink beer till you mind overloads, wake up in the morning with a clean slate and insert the info till you get it." Just have to bang your head into the book figuratively to understand it. There was a lot of new material for me; for example -1/+1 partial derivative rule and solving partial differential equations. </p>
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<p>I suggest pick up a book on how to manage your time more efficetively, will do wonders in prepartion of UCs.</p>
<p>my first semester at pcc was in fall of 05 and it was horrible, i got like a late august registration and pretty much all the classes were already close so i got stuck with a bad schedule and some classes that i didn't want to take but had to cause they were the only ones open so i was going to school like 5 days a week, had a mourning class one day and a night class the next, it wasn't as bad as some of the people in my class who had like 7 hour gaps and had to go home and come back later, this girl had so many hour gaos between her classes that she started like at 7 am to 9 pm, for a 3 unit class they schedule you to meet 3 and a half hours, 4 units 4 and a half hours etc, didn't like the 1A english course where you had to take that stupid lab for no credit and the people there are mean. My english 1A gave lots of work, reading and writing, seems like she thought it was a advanced 1A class, yah everyone pretty much dropped. I was looking over classes of scheule for the fall back in june and the classes closed really fast, that first semester was brutal, with english and the non trasnferable math with lots of work and all the papers from every class and having to communte from LA, i hope the registering for classes is now better like you say, and does parking still suck? i heard their upping it to like 2 bucks a day now!</p>
<p>Just my advice for fellow PCC students.
1) Hang in there, I know it can be tough to add a class, I had to do it also. Keep going to the class you really want. It gets better as time goes by, more students decide not to add a class
2) Parking isn't as bad as it is, it was really bad before the new parking structure.
3) A tip for impacted classes, try to place out of the lower math, science and english. Even though a lot of the higher math has fewer class offerings, not a lot of people are in them.
Math - Try to place into at least Math 8 (I think lowest transfer acceptable is 8? I was placed into 5B, so please correct me if i am wrong).
English - English 1A (Don't bother with English 400 or 100, you'll just grief yourself)
Chemistry - Bypass Chem 22 and go straight into 1A.
4) Get to know your professors, most PCC professors are very friendly. They are at PCC to teach, not to research. </p>
<p>As for my woes, I had a hellish time my last semester. I was taking 23 units and working almost 10-15 hours a week. I was waking up at 6am and getting home at 10pm.</p>
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P.S. - For future chemical engineers, please for the sake of your humanity, don't select this major when you apply to a UC or Cal State.</li>
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<p>omfg...23 units. I took an over-the-max courseload during summer intersession and boy did it take its toll on my mind and body. I can't imagine doing it for a regular semester...</p>
<p>i just hate how people add class and end up dropping them and not giving other students who want to add the class a chance to add, my first year was the worst or the worst, anyways for people who went there and goes there now, is there still a lot of STARING? epecially in the hallways? its like people are possessed or something, i understand looking to for a second to see whos passing you but to stare down people as they walk down the hallway is creepy</p>
<p>I don't really notice...cause the only way to notice if other people are staring at you is if you're looking at them. Or maybe they're out to get you dragon...........be very afraid...</p>
<p>Anybody dig this new 26% reduction in tuition? :)</p>
<p>i have fee waiver in the first place! =P</p>
<p>Same with me :p</p>