Penn State might get the death penalty

<p>The same can be said of several other new posters who just joined with the purpose of insulting those whose children go to Penn State.</p>

<p>Slipjig - exactly!</p>

<p>I’m laughing, LakeClouds. From you, who stated: " To me it’s shocking that students and others don’t riot and tear down the statue as was done with Sadam Husseins. The fact that this hasn’t happen speaks volumes about the PSU culture," </p>

<p>and “return to my hole?” I’m insulting?</p>

<p>When you have people blithely and ignorantly stating what you have and “Saying the students and community are completely blameless is like saying the citizens around Auschwitz and Dachau were completely blameless”</p>

<p>I’ll speak up. And, I’ll continue. Feel free to count my posts.</p>

<p>You may not want to believe it, but … tada …</p>

<p>Ultimately, Penn State’s worth is not measured by football.</p>

<p>The truly wonderful thing is I don’t have to justify myself to you. The rarity of the Pirates winning and your humorous comments have added to my day! Thanks, LakeClouds!</p>

<p>Pilot2012:</p>

<p>Sigh. I never said my daughter’s school was superior. She made the choice to go someplace other than Penn State when this scandal only included Sandusky. </p>

<p>Our decision at the time involved a lot of different factors, but the case against Sandusky did not at that time affect our decision because it was one man.</p>

<p>Now that the scandal is much more far reaching, the school will have to do a lot more to change and adapt. Nobody is sure at this point what sanctions or punishments will be. There is no way to tell how this will affect future funding and tuition. </p>

<p>And that is why I am glad that she is not going. Too much uncertainty.</p>

<p>I’m happy for you and wish the best for your daughter, Bridget. I hope that she has a successful college career. It sounds as though you went through a comprehensive admissions process and came up with a winner.</p>

<p>That said, when I read some of your posts, it gives me pause: </p>

<p>“I thank God every day that she made that decision for all the above reasons.”
“I am getting sick of hearing about how Penn State faculty and students now know what to do and will move forward in a positive manner. Bull. They just want to put as much distance between themselves and what happened as quickly as possible without any repercussions.”
“That cult-like adoration of the football program, and the “protect it at all costs” attitude, is STILL prevalent on campus, even with all the key players in the scandal gone.”</p>

<p>I respectfully disagree with the wholesale assignation of a student body and community similar to a cult because they attend football games and the disparagement of exceptional accomplishments as mere manifestations of the football program. As an aside, did you know that Penn State Penn State now leads the nation in Fulbright scholars and that in 2012 fourteen Fulbright grants were awarded to faculty at University Park alone? Is that due to the football program?</p>

<p>I think having a debate about the death penalty and the rebuilding of an iconic institution is worthwhile. Some of the blanket negative comments, not so much.</p>

<p>The NCAA will announce its decisions on “corrective and punitive measures” for PSU tomorrow at 9:00 am. CBS News reports the penalties will be “unprecedented” (no details) affecting the Football Program and the school. This does not appear to bode well for supporters of PSU Football, but who knows. We shall see.</p>

<p>Well CBS is not necessarily known for reliability when it comes to sports rumors. But I’m sure the NCAA will cave and give them the DP. Because when the public and the media turn angry, they get what they want.</p>

<p>Where is PSU’s new leadership??? Where are the faculty?? PSU needs to step up and make the penalty not force the NCAA to do so. Is there any honor and integrity at PSU?? Has the football culture changed at all at PSU with the new leaders?</p>

<p>bud123, I totally agreed with you. Reading the comments is easy to see why this crime were covered by the University officials. Not decency or mercy toward innocent children, only their precious football program and reputation. Will never send my son to a school like that.</p>

<p>Ah - another brand new poster who just happened to find this thread and just couldn’t resist insulting current/future Penn State parents and students.</p>

<p>Yep, piling on.</p>

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<p>Yep - and seems like some people have way too much free time on their hands!!</p>

<p>It’s pathetic really</p>

<p>I don’t think Penn State should get the death penalty, but some sanctions should occur.
What disturbs me is the blind support so many still have for Joe Paterno. Believe me, I live in PA.</p>

<p>Floridadad -</p>

<p>As I noted before, I am not a football fan and my kids chose colleges based on lack of sports enthusiasm. However, I can read and analyze, and it seems to me that the DP should be reserved for cases where the football program itself was corrupt, as in paying kids off, hiding rapes and sexual assaults by players, condoning drinking and drugs, throwing games, etc. </p>

<p>Here, the football seems peripheral in a sense. Sandusky could have been a pedophile in a baseball or basketball or even a chess program as well. The only thing involved here was that the locker room was used by Sandusky as a rape spot. That is vile and disgusting, but I don’t believe the current football players should be punished.</p>

<p>As I said before, Sandusky, etc. should be in general population and I’m sorry Paterno died before this report came out so he’s not aware of it.</p>

<p>The news media is reporting that sanctions will be “punitive” and will be announced at this morning’s NCAA news conference. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/23/sports/ncaafootball/ncaa-plans-punitive-measures-against-penn-state-for-Sandusky.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/23/sports/ncaafootball/ncaa-plans-punitive-measures-against-penn-state-for-Sandusky.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>So you would penalize a program if the players were child rapist but not if the coaches were? What do you call what Paterno did in hiding Sandusky’s rapes? It much, much worse when the adults in charge are doing these things. We also know that Paerno intervened many times to get his players off the hook for rogue behavior.</p>

<p>To Columbia09 and the others that attacked me yesterday, Penn State severe punishment from the NCAA only reflect the severity of its actions. Criminal actions towards innocent little children, the worst kind. As a parting message, the is a horror story where nobody wins with the outcome, but reality is reality and school spirit or loyalty can not cover it. So happy my kid is a University of Chicago Class 2016 member. Good luck and don’t spend too much time defending what does not have a defense.</p>

<p>The Death Penalty is reserved for SEVERE cases of gaining an unfair advantage on the field of play against another school in athletic competition involving players - and thats what the NCAA just said this morning. This thread is no longer relevant.</p>

<p>Ummm…</p>

<p>With what Penn State got levied on them today, the death penalty (for 1 or 2 years) would have been better. Penn State football has basically been reduced to a Div-II team.</p>