<p>Haha, my daughter took those classes last year when she was a freshman! She is still recovering.</p>
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<p>thereby uniting for JoePa too, to excuse his inaction</p>
<p>ah yes - freshman Chemistry! DS is glad to have that out of the way! Unfortunately - he’s not yet done with Calculus.</p>
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<p>Neither do I. And, to be honest, as I’ve read these rants over the past few weeks - I’ve gone from being annoyed to being amused by them.</p>
<p>But as I commented before (which no one has bothered to respond to) - if they are this gung-ho to see PSU football brought down - I hope they are spouting the same message for Syracuse’s (very successful) basketball program.</p>
<p>College sports. Such an evil beast. ;)</p>
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<p>Grcxx3: The people in charge of the PSU football program not only covered up the rape of a boy in the facilities showers, but allowed the perpetrator to continue to hold sleepover camps until 2009 and ensuring that they would be more victims of this crime. The program was responsible for this. It became so powerful that it could do what it wanted. People who tried to reign it in were fired or ignored.</p>
<p>The motivation is to prevent this happening in the future, and to hold those responsible for these crimes accountable. Your program is the subject of State, Federal, and NCAA investigations. The NCAA one is most telling. It is looking into the lack of institutional control by the university over the program. The fact that the mere possibility of suspending the program for a year is so controversial shows that they still have too much power</p>
<p>A program that looked the other way regarding crimes against children because it was in its own self interest, that would be one definition of an “evil beast” And that is no joke</p>
<p>kumitedad: really? I hadn’t heard/didn’t realize all those things until you enlightened me. gosh, I’m glad you are here to tell us this again and again and again and again and again… wear out your audience on the other threads? Shouldn’t you be going to town on the Syracuse thread, or is a major news outlet covering up horrendous behavior in a major athletic program for years only interesting to you in some instances? (*to be serious and clear — the Syracuse horror does not excuse anything, or make anyone feel good. Just kinda exposes people’s agendas…)</p>
<p>When all else fails complain about the complainers. No sense talking about the topic of the thread lets just talk about each other.</p>
<p>kumitedad - Just to be clear, it’s not MY program. And I have absolutely NO problem with the PEOPLE responsible for this situation being punished. I just don’t feel it is necessary to suspend the football program. </p>
<p>Trying again - are you also pushing for the suspension of the Syracuse basketball program?</p>
<p>aglages: the point is that some posters just continue to post the same thing over and over and over and over again. To what purpose?</p>
<p>Schadenfreude is all I can think of.</p>
<p>1moremom - I was thinking the same thing.</p>
<p>I have been thinking it for awhile. The scandal broke over three weeks ago. At this point much of the “discussion” has devolved into PSU-bashing or is merely reiterating points that have been made many times before.</p>
<p>You are both right. Such glee.</p>
<p>Grcxx3: If they Syracuse program is proven to be as complicit as Penn State was of course I would. </p>
<p>Glee? Hardly. The emotions that this is bringing up with people are anger, shock and disgust. Glee would indicate some kind of envy, and trust me, no one is envying this program or school</p>
<p>Take, for example, this recent post from the Parents Forum–</p>
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<p>Classy. Shows a lot of compassion for the victims. And certainly takes the discussion to a higher level.</p>
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<p>Well, we have different view of this word. I think the definitions from here ([glee</a> - definition of glee by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.](<a href=“Glee]glee - definition of glee]glee by The Free Dictionary”>Glee - definition of glee by The Free Dictionary)) are more descriptive of the tone we’ve seen on these threads.</p>
<p>-jubilant delight; joy
-great merriment or delight, often caused by someone else’s misfortune
-malicious satisfaction </p>
<p>But, I agree, no one is envying the position that certain arrogant and self-serving individuals (men) have placed upon the university and it’s students. However, the blame (and shame) is on those individuals - not the students or academic programs of Penn State.</p>
<p>[ESPN</a>, Local Paper Sat on Syracuse Sex-Abuse Tape for Years - The Daily Beast](<a href=“ESPN, Local Paper Sat on Syracuse Sex-Abuse Tape for Years”>ESPN, Local Paper Sat on Syracuse Sex-Abuse Tape for Years)</p>
<p>Where is all the outrage over the Syracuse scandal?</p>
<p>ESPN among others appears to have hid/covered up info (for 9 years!) that could have led to less children being ‘allegedly’ abused by the basketball coach. So, students should not go to the Syracuse basketball games! They should cancel their season! No one should watch ESPN anymore, and they should stop broadcasting for a year. People should never hire anyone that worked for ESPN ever again, because after all, they are guilty by association. And since ESPN is owned by Disney, I guess if you go to Disney World, you are supporting child rapists, right?!</p>
<p>Seriously, there are alot of parallels, but it just seems to be Penn State that all the venom and hatred is directed toward.</p>
<p>And hmmm, I wonder where a lot of the ESPN broadcasters went to school? Newhouse at Syracuse?</p>
<p>Penn State set itself up for scorn with the “success with honor” tagline, as did Joe and the coaching staff. We react with more pain and shock when our heroes have feet of clay. The student demonstration provided more fodder for the news cycle. Nobody expects ESPN/Disney to be much more than a corporation (and hence, has no soul beyond the dollar, would be the rationale). Whether that says more about Syracuse, ESPN, or people’s expectations, I don’t know. </p>
<p>I agree, it’s a shame there’s little-to-no indignation, but there’s a fatigue-and-overload issue at work now, too. And hypocrisy. Of course, if Colin Cowherd keeps saying ESPN sat on this incredibly damning and incriminating audiotape (the coach’s wife ALSO, allegedly had an encounter of a sexual/abusive nature with the victim) because “we aren’t policemen” pink slips should be flying by the weekend.</p>
<p>HYPOCRISY.
Acting like God.</p>
<p>Yup, these tend to cause a back-lash when there is wrong-doing.</p>
<p>Sorry, JoPa and his domain the football program were completely intertwined with PSU, its culture, its leadership, its governance, its ethics, its standing overall, its funding…
Basically, PSU as a whole became JoPa’s kingdom and domain, and many members of the community not directly in the football program basked in its glory, did not question a thing about it, the power of JoPa, etc, etc., so it is understandable why some do not think it unfair that to a certain degree the whole PSU community is being brought down by this.
Yes, I do understand that the non-football members of the PSU community are also in some ways victims: of JoPa’s tyranny, hypocritical behavior. They were fooled and lulled into a feeling of superiority- it is positively addictive.
It is a tragedy oft told of come-uppance.
It was a big bubble. Reminds me of the Old Testament. And Greek mythology.</p>
<p>I think the situation with Syracuse and its culture is different. But more info may change that, too.</p>
<p>BTW, the pity party about how everyone is bashing poor ole PSU should stop.
First of all, stop feeling bashed, and start feeling a little compassion for the victims, and ask for the truth and better things from your superiors at PSU, including a little remorse! Second of all, much of these threads is about learning new info, interpreting the story, putting it all together for a better understanding. It is a free world; doing that is not wrong or mean. It happened and some are trying to make sense (ironic word here) of it all.</p>
<p>And…
Maybe PSU’ers should express their anger towards JoPa and the PSU administration and Sandusky for betraying them, and for allowing those kids to be hurt (instead of posters on CC)!!!</p>