<p>and ive heard stories of recruiters/interview people in chicago asking if wharton was a community college (from my alum interviewer actually)</p>
<p>it depends what you want to do</p>
<p>i asked before, but anyone choose Penn over Dartmouth?</p>
<p>duckstamper,</p>
<p>NOT TO BEAT THIS DOG TO DEATH, BUT THE WALL STREET JOURNAL COMPARES APPLES TO APPLES:</p>
<p>1)Harvard: 358/1666= 21.49% .......ACCEPTED TO ELITE GRAD SCHOOL</p>
<p>7)Dartmouth: 93/1101 = 8.45% ......ACCEPTED TO ELITE GRAD SCHOOL</p>
<p>16)Penn: 153/2785=5.49%.............ACCEPTED TO ELITE GRAD SCHOOL</p>
<p>....................(these are all good numbers, just not the same numbers)......</p>
<p>ACCORDING TO THE WSJ, HARVARD KICKS ALOT OF ITS OWN STUDENTS INTO ITS OWN MED AND LAW SCHOOLS</p>
<p>The first number is how many accepted, the second number is how many applied and the third number is the percentage of students accepted to a top grad school. </p>
<p>But you may be right, perhaps penn's best students don't apply to the top grad schools.</p>
<p>I posted the following in another thread regarding Dartmouth v. Penn that may apply here. But I agree with the posters that two schools are very different and the choice should be based on factors more than SAT scores and GPA of enrolled students:</p>
<p>The average score for the entire student body for each of the Ivy schools can be broken down into two tiers, with Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, and Yale having higher AI average range requirement than Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Penn. (What It Really Takes to Get into the Ivy League . By Chuck Hughes, former senior admissions officer, Harvard College, 2003)</p>
<p>Also,</p>
<p>At the time this book was written, the A.I. hierarchy in the League read as follows: Harvard in first, Yale and Princeton neck-in-neck in second and/or third, Dartmouth a close fourth, then a gap, after which came Columbia, Penn, Brown, and Cornell. (Playing the Game: Inside Athletic Recruiting in the Ivy League, by Chris Lincoln, 2004)</p>
<p>Finally,
As Dartmouth made its push to become more intensely focused on admitting high-powered academic applicants in the late 1990s, the SAT scores of the incoming classes began to rise. This raised the Academic Index (a combination of SAT I and II scores and class rank) to a level just a fraction below that of Princeton, Harvard and Yale. In response, the Big Green football recruits had to fit a higher academic profile as well, in order to fit the banding requirements that indicate how many players in each range of AIs that a school can accept. The Harvard Crimson 12/14/2004 <a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505067%5B/url%5D">http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505067</a></p>
<p>i hate how people say how people should come to penn for wharton and not for the college.</p>
<p>Don't hate Pandy. Since you're in, you can just tell ppl that kids come to Penn for you and your flawless personality.</p>
<p>hahhaha i remember reading something about the flawlessness somewhere.</p>
<p>or you just noticed it!</p>
<p>or you've mentioned it a bazillion times and I point it out everytime you mention it a gazillion times more...that def make a lasting impression.</p>
<p>i actually think you're mentioned it more times on these forums than I have! in fact, I recall YOU starting that inside joke when we talked on that IRC thing. kekekekeke (chinese laugh aka inside joke dos)</p>
<p>that's what I said...kekekekekeke (hahahahahaha)....gazillion>bazillion...you should be flattered (if you are even capable of feeling flattered...cough cough <em>ego</em>)</p>
<p>For JHU Graduation and After
45% Pursued further study
24% Medicine, 21% Law</p>
<p>For Emory
74% pursued further study
25% medicine, 22% law, 20% arts and science</p>
<p>Data form Thomson competitive colleges.</p>
<p>Does it mean JHU or Emory are better than Dartmouth or Upenn?</p>
<p>Form USNEWS.com</p>
<p>Top Engineering Schools
Upenn (#26)
Dartmouth (#42)</p>
<p>Top Business Schools:
Upenn (#3)
Dartmouth (#9)</p>
<p>Top Medical Schools - Research
Upenn (#4)
Dartmouth #34)</p>
<p>Top Medical School - Primary Care
Upenn (#46)
Dartmouth (n/rank)</p>
<p>Top 100 Law Schools
UPenn (#7)
Dartmouth (n/rank)</p>
<p>Does it mean Upeen better than Dartmouth?</p>
<p>Ithink it is really make no sense to compare between tow school.
One is mre like LACs. Upenn is more like a University.
Which one is better for you really depends on what are you going to do in the long run.</p>
<p>chinese laugh? is there such a thing? are u even azn panda?</p>
<p>
[quote]
posted the following in another thread regarding Dartmouth v. Penn that may apply here. But I agree with the posters that two schools are very different and the choice should be based on factors more than SAT scores and GPA of enrolled students:</p>
<p>The average score for the entire student body for each of the Ivy schools can be broken down into two tiers, with Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, and Yale having higher AI average range requirement than Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Penn. (What It Really Takes to Get into the Ivy League . By Chuck Hughes, former senior admissions officer, Harvard College, 2003)</p>
<p>Also,</p>
<p>At the time this book was written, the A.I. hierarchy in the League read as follows: Harvard in first, Yale and Princeton neck-in-neck in second and/or third, Dartmouth a close fourth, then a gap, after which came Columbia, Penn, Brown, and Cornell. (Playing the Game: Inside Athletic Recruiting in the Ivy League, by Chris Lincoln, 2004)</p>
<p>Finally,
As Dartmouth made its push to become more intensely focused on admitting high-powered academic applicants in the late 1990s, the SAT scores of the incoming classes began to rise. This raised the Academic Index (a combination of SAT I and II scores and class rank) to a level just a fraction below that of Princeton, Harvard and Yale. In response, the Big Green football recruits had to fit a higher academic profile as well, in order to fit the banding requirements that indicate how many players in each range of AIs that a school can accept. The Harvard Crimson 12/14/2004 <a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505067%5B/url%5D%5B/quote%5D">http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505067
[/quote]
</a></p>
<p>Well, claims are all nice and good, but I'd like to see proof. From the USNEWS report, the SAT range of Penn is 1330-1510 whereas Dartmouth is 1330-1530. </p>
<p>Not much difference, Dartmouth has a slight edge.</p>
<p>However, the freshmen in teh top 10% of HS for penn is 93% whereas for dartmouth is 84%.</p>
<p>The AI is composed of a 1/3 the SAT score, 1/3 of the SAT II scores, and 1/3 of the class rank (CRS). Unless Dartmouth is far, far superior with the SAT II scores, I really don't see how the AI is not comparable.</p>
<p>Nope! Not Asian. According to Catch there is such a thing as an asian laugh and it goes something like "kekekekekekekekeke."</p>
<p>tokaicarbon,</p>
<p>Don't take it so personally, I certainly do not think that Dartmouth is superior to Penn, they're good schools that are more or less incomparable.</p>
<p>And,</p>
<p>I don't think that anybody doubts that PENN GRAD SCHOOLS (the ones you referred to from USNWR) are some of the best in the country, although I thought we were looking at undergrad education in this thread.</p>
<p>I'm sure many Dartmouth undergrads hope to be in some of Penn's grad schools after graduation.</p>
<p>And for the record, I think that JHU is a great school (especially GRAD SCHOOL).</p>
<p>Emory is also a great school, its connection with the CDC is invaluable, don't hate!</p>
<p>In loving one thing there s no obligation to hate another.</p>
<p>Believing your boy/girl friend to be the best does not require you to believe all other men/women suck by arbitrary comparison.</p>
<p>Penn is great!</p>