Penn vs. Dartmouth

<p>Anyone choose Penn College over Dartmouth? Why? What are the benefits of attending Penn College over Dartmouth?</p>

<p>Philadelphia > Boonies</p>

<p>I've also been wondering what the differences are between Penn and Dartmouth. From what I've heard though, many recruiters don't know Dartmouth at all - which may or may not put a graduate at a losing position.</p>

<p>Penn; I offer the following completely ignorable reasons:
-cellphones don't work on dartmouth campus
-my friend got rejected at dart early
-my other friend goes there and his freshman roomate had certifiable schizophrenia
-what the hell is there mascot, anyway?
-ugh, New Hampshire? I'd rather get lost in a desert.</p>

<p>i think i have to defend dart a bit cuz my dear friend got in early, even though im going to penn next year:</p>

<ol>
<li>any recruiter who hasnt heard of dartmouth shouldnt be recruiting; i seriously doubt that a degree from dartmouth puts one in a "losing position"</li>
<li>their mascot is a beer can</li>
<li>my friend who is a frosh there hates her roommate too, but shes met tons of other awesome kids and is having a kickass time</li>
<li>youre right though, new hampshire does suck</li>
</ol>

<p>i have now become the grammar/spelling corrector. please bear with me and don't take this personally. after years of my latin teacher correcting everything single thing that i say, she has rubbed off on me. :-D</p>

<p>"their", not "there".</p>

<p>According to the WAll STREET JOURNAL Dartmouth students are exceped to Elite Grads schools at a far higher percentage.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.wsjclassroom.com/college/feederschools.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wsjclassroom.com/college/feederschools.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>That may be a good reason to go to Dartmouth if you are going to Grad school.</p>

<p>Go reason to go to Penn:
Wharton.
Party in the City.
Not big on the outdoors in winter</p>

<p>Woodwork, that is because Penn's applicant pool tends to have kids who tend to get a job after undergrad, more so than Dartmouth. The more LAC-like a school is, the more the students tend to want to have jobs that require more schooling (law, medicine, etc)</p>

<p>I talked to my admissions officer. She said that Wharton was so good that most Wharton students don't even need to get an MBA. In fact, their 5 year MBA program had only 2 or 3 students; all recruiters know that Wharton's education is so top notch that an MBA or extra schooling was not necessary. The same pre-professional feel permeates the other colleges.</p>

<p>Good Reasons to go to Penn:
-cool kids like me will go there =P
-great school
-good looking (by comparison...) ppl go there
-Wharton, CAS, SEAS
-Social life
-everything else</p>

<p>Why even compare Penn and Dartmouth? They are completely different institutions. One is rural and has a liberal arts feel to it. Penn is urban and more pre-prof.</p>

<p>haha i like the "good looking" and "everything else" part. wow, i didn't know most whartonies (?) don't even pursue mba's. can you still get top-notch jobs that would normally require an mba?</p>

<p>Whartonites is the correct term. It's not that they don't pursue MBA's, it's that they can get a good job initially so the pay that comes with a Wharton degree is attractive enough for one to not pursue further study. Of course, companies might may for a Whartonite to go back to school, but it's not on the student's dime. Whartonites get the top jobs. I hear that some get 80-200 job offers out of college. At other colleges, you would have to apply for 800-200 jobs :P</p>

<p>Dusk, I am busy right now, but, just dropping a note to say kudos to you for defending old franklin so well. :) </p>

<p>Now......back to cooking.</p>

<p>Duckstamper,</p>

<p>The WALLSTREET JOURNAL survey only consciders those appying to Elite grad schools. </p>

<p>It may be that many of Penn's best students don't apply to grad school, for whatever reason, but those that do, do not do as well.</p>

<p>Approximately the same number of Dartmouth and Penn students apply to grad school.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.wsjclassroom.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wsjclassroom.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.wsjclassroom.com/college/feederschools.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wsjclassroom.com/college/feederschools.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I agree with you that Dartmouth is morelike the LAC's, the best of which do very well at grad school placement</p>

<p>1.Harvard
2.Yale
3.Princeton
4.Stanford
5. Williams
6.Duke
7. Dartmouth
8.MIT
9. Amherst
10. Swarthmore
11. Columbia
12. Brown
13. Pomona
14. Chicago
15. Wellesley
16. Penn
17. Georgetown
18. Haverford</p>

<ol>
<li>Cornell</li>
</ol>

<p>Universities often do less well:</p>

<ol>
<li>UMich</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
</ol>

<p>Anyone choose Penn College over Dartmouth?</p>

<p>aaaaaaaaand the first question has not been answered yet. threads often turn into tangents... we turned a look-at-my-stats thread into an azn pride thread. anyway... i'd answer your question but i haven't applied to college yet.</p>

<p>"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-- Benjamin Franklin </p>

<p>find a better quote from someone related to dartmouth</p>

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I agree with you that Dartmouth is morelike the LAC's, the best of which do very well at grad school placement.

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<p>There is a study regarding Wharton in another thread; only about 5% was in grad school. It's really unfair to compare Penn and Dartmouth, considering that some of the better students do not even seek grad school. Likewise, Penn is a more of a pre-professional school. The fact that you said that about the same amount of students from Penn and Dartmouth went to grad school is telling. Penn is a shade under 2,500 and dartmouth's class is a shade over 1,000. So the fact that Dartmouth students are 250% more likely shows that Dartmouth is a completely different school from Penn in terms of the post-grad needs of the students at both schools.</p>

<p>Comparing grad school placement between Penn and Dartmouth is like comparing apples to oranges. LACs are much more focused on grad school placement; People who go to Dartmouth -want- to go to grad school and want to get a complete education, whereas those from Penn want to graduate and find a job.</p>

<p>Honestly, they are both great schools. There is absolutely no difference in recruiting from either, trust me 99% of my Dartmouth friends have amazing jobs. Recruiters love both schools. Sounds crazy, but choose between these based on what kind of social scene you prefer, any other criteria (outside of Wharton) is silly. The differences are too small.</p>

<p>New Hampshire might 'suck' but you dont go to Dartmouth for New Hampshire. I went to Columbia and transferred to Dartmouth once I realized that College (for me) was not about going out to clubs in the city, it was about spending time with great friends. Dartmouth has an awesome social scene, and its small enough that it has a tremendous community. You really end up making amazing friends and for me it never got old at all. Also, the professors are really there for undergrads.</p>

<p>That said the reason I would choose Penn over Dartmouth would be if I were really into an international social scene.</p>

<p>Bartoastt and slipper1234, let me clarify my post to avoid any confusion. From what I do know about Dartmouth, from the 20 graduates I've talked to, they said a few recruiters didn't recognize Dartmouth (and when I say recruiter, I mean, not those individuals who go to colleges and interview/hire students, but recruiter as in a head hunters and company managers). However, as you both pointed out, Dartmouth is still recognized by the vast majority of recruiters and has a strong academic program.</p>