<p>Pros and cons? This is for Penn CAS and UMich (applying to Ross as a freshman).</p>
<p>Penn’s got the apprehend when it comes to most academics (since engineering doesn’t apply to you) compared with Mich’s LSA. Getting into Ross is difficult, about 17% of applicants who apply for preferred freshman get in, and 37.5% of applicants who apply as freshman in LSA are admitted. Honestly, you can’t go wrong either way. Penn is probably the safer bet, as Penn’s CAS (mostly) > Mich’s LSA, but Penn’s CAS and Ross are both near the top of their fields. I’d make the decision based on fit and cost of tuition (like if you are in-state or receiving financial aid from either). Mich definitely has the upper hand when it comes to school spirit, and Mich athletics are awesome! Penn has a good social climate though, it is known as the social ivy. </p>
<p>How do you know you got into Penn, likely letter?</p>
<p>dfree124, although I agree that Penn CAS has a better career office than Michigan LSA, from an academic Michigan LSA and Penn CAS are roughly equal, both in terms of quality and in terms of reputation. If the OP wishes to receive a good education that will prepare her/him well for graduate school, both schools will exceed expectations. </p>
<p>On the other hand, if the OP’s intent is to secure a job in a particularly exclusive industry (such as consulting or IBanking), Penn CAS is indeed a better bet than Michigan LSA. However, Ross at Michigan is extremely well recruited firms in such industries and is flexible enough to still allow its students to double major at the school of LSA.</p>
<p>It should be noted that although Ross is highly selective where high school applicants are concerned (preadmit), it is significantly easier to get into once at Michigan. A candidate that is sufficiently accomplished to get into Penn should be able to get into Ross once at Michigan, assuming he/she make an effort. The majority of the 60% of the undergraduate students who are rejected by Ross are not up to scratch (sub-3.5 GPA while at Michigan).</p>
<p>If there is a significant difference in cost of attendance, I recommend the cheaper option. If cost is not an issue, then I agree with dfree; go for fit.</p>
<p>Penn for the prestige, academics, intelligence of classmates, reputation in the business world, on campus recruiting, possible internal transfer to Wharton, etc. etc. Penn is simply the most recruited school in the world for finance and consulting. If you feel like Michigan is the better fit though, going there won’t stop you from anything provided you’re in Ross.</p>
<p>The quality of education at Penn CAS>>>u-grad business programs like Ross though. Why not just go to Penn and get a great liberal arts education as well as an amazing job?</p>
<p>Certainly Penn>>>Duke. I mean Penn is in the Ivy League. It is much more prestigious. Geez…</p>
<p>“Penn’s got the apprehend when it comes to most academics (since engineering doesn’t apply to you) compared with Mich’s LSA.”</p>
<p>Please list the academic departments where CAS has the “apprehend” over Michigan.</p>
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<p>I initially typed “upperhand”, right clicked for spellcheck, and clicked on the first option which was “apprehend” (the second option was upper hand).</p>
<p>I’m not aware of any department ranking, but you could point me towards one if it exists.</p>
<p>I could cite numerous rankings that put Penn above Mich overall if you’d like.</p>
<p>dfree123, overall rankings tend to be flawed. Most of the ones I have seen rank Michigan and Penn right next to each other (within 5 or 6 spots of each other among US universities). The only exception is the USNWR which has a methodology intended for private universities and therefore hurts public universities. </p>
<p>Virtually all subject-based rankings suggest that Michigan and Penn are identical in quality, as do virtually all reputational ratings I have seen, from Fiske to the USNWR peer assessment score. </p>
<p>As you suggested earlier, I recommend comparing more personal traits when deciding between peer institutions, such as cost of attendance and fit.</p>
<p>Alexandre, I hate playing the ranking game, and I completely acknowledge that a difference between 5 and 6 (or whatever) shouldn’t be the reason to pick one school over another. Fit and FA are the way to go here, I just wish OP would reply.</p>
<p>Since only ED info has come out for UPenn so far this is an abstract discussion at best. Either the OP already has an admission in hand and must decide ASAP based on the FA offer or the OP has the same 14% chance of getting in as other applicants.</p>
<p>Likely letters have come out for Penn.</p>
<p>I got a likely letter for Penn CAS. And I’m not really looking solely at numbers either since I’ve heard great things about both Mich and Penn. I’m OOS for Mich so cost is roughly the same for both… Also I did apply to Ross as a pre admit but I’m not depending on getting in right now cause its so selective.</p>
<p>PS thanks for all of feedback! I’ve been to Mich for a day and spent the summer at Penn, but I think I’ll visit each one once again.</p>
<p>Go where you think you’ll be the most happy insominiac93. Best of luck to you.</p>
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It was actually 12% overall last year, and 9% for Regular Decision applicants. But since the OP has received a likely letter, it’s now closer to 100% for him/her.</p>
<p>I agree with the others–go with fit and finances. If you thrive at either of these excellent schools, you’ll have opportunities aplenty.</p>