Personality>test scores?

<p>Can students like me (who has relatively low SATs) get into Princeton because of the emphasis of personal experience they've put in admission?</p>

<p>I believe so. unless your SATs are really incredibly awful.</p>

<p>what do you consider low sats?</p>

<p>Anything < 2100</p>

<p>it depends on whether you r international as well....</p>

<p>sure internationals are judged less harshly in SAT terms?
i'd say they require them to be on "native speaker level"...</p>

<p>hopefully a 2250 isn't too bad for an international student?</p>

<p>they can still be on the same if not better native speaker level, but internationals dont focus on SATS the same way normal american kids do.......</p>

<p>hehe thats wat i love abot Pton. They ask you a lot of questions to get a good sense of your character, not just ur numbers. But they are still quite "number conscious." Stupid USNEWS takes average scores into account when ranking colleges</p>

<p>I disagree about a 2100 being the minimum score Princeton accepts. I think that if you have something REALLY interesting about you, and they want you at the school, low SAT scores can be overlooked. Also, obviously the essays and recs mean a lot!</p>

<p>Think about it this way: they need to "justify" accepting someone with low numbers, because they will bring the averages down, albeit slightly. So if you have what it takes for them to justify you in terms of essays and recs, then you will be fine.</p>

<p>I had the same fear... I'm international and I sent an e-mail to the Admission Office of Princeton, and this is what they asnwered me:</p>

<p>Dear Patricia,</p>

<pre><code>Thank you for writing to Princeton University. It may help you to know that, at Princeton, every applicant is reviewed individually and valued for his or her strengths. We do not have a profile of the ideal applicant, nor do we map out a checklist of all the particular “types” of students we plan to admit in a given year.
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<p>Also bear in mind that with any application process, there is never a guarantee of
acceptance.</p>

<pre><code>From what you say, it would appear you have some worthy credentials to offer any college. It is true that Princeton is very competitive, but we do look at the entire candidate, not just grades and scores.

We look at a variety of indicators to assess students’ academic abilities and achievements, including the secondary school program and record (which is ultimately the most important factor), as well as SAT results (and other standardized test results if applicable). Teacher and counselor recommendations are also important. We weigh the combination of these indicators to gauge how students might fare in our rigorous academic programs, in which liveliness of mind and independence of thought are valued as much as sheer ability. Intellectual curiosity and academic excellence are the most important factors in our decision.

Are there minimum grade averages, class ranks, or test scores required for admission?
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<p>No. We consider all of these measures in the context of the applicant’s own school and situation. In general, our most promising candidates tend to earn grades in the highest range in comparison to their high school classmates, and as a group our admitted freshmen have comparatively high test scores among the entire population of test-takers. While grades and test results are useful pieces of information for us, they do not by themselves provide a complete picture of a student’s academic accomplishment or potential.</p>

<pre><code>For last year's class, the Middle 50 percent of Verbal SAT, Mathematics SAT, and three highest SAT II Subject Tests are listed below. For example, 25 percent of the applicants had Verbal scores below 650; 50 percent had Verbal scores between 650 and 760; 25 percent had Verbal scores above 760. Applicants had the following scores:
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<p>Critical Reasoning: 640-750</p>

<p>Math: 660-780</p>

<p>Writing: 630-740</p>

<p>Sat II of 670-770</p>

<p>More information about applying to Princeton University can be found by going to <a href="http://www.princeton.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.princeton.edu&lt;/a> and selecting the link to Admission & Aid. You may also want to read our Princeton in Brief located at <a href="http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/brief/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/brief/&lt;/a> on our website. </p>

<pre><code>We hope this is helpful to you. We wish you all the best.

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<p>The UG Admission Office</p>

<p>Princeton University</p>

<p>what you guys are saying is completely true
someone from my school last year got in with a 2040 and equal SAT IIs...she was NOT a urm, but she was a true leader around school and held many leadership positions...</p>

<p>"Intellectual curiosity and academic excellence are the most important factors in our decision."</p>

<p>I realize this is from the admission office, but according to collegeboard.com, the only "very important" factors at princeton are CHARACTER, teacher recs, rigor of courseload, and special talents. GPA and Test scores are only "considered."</p>

<p>I'm guessing that "character" would be determined by the content of your essays (as opposed to your writing style), teacher recs, and those "favorites" that don't matter any. Pretty much, the people who get in are the people who the adcoms like the most.</p>

<p>very interesting that test scores were only put as "considered"....</p>

<p>ya P'ton is not as number based as some other schools, which is why the app is so extensive and asks random questions that peek into our character</p>

<p>I agree with Clendenenator. If the adcom likes you or really wants you for some reason, they will overlook lackluster 'numbers.' (esp. if you have a plausible reason for having lower stats)</p>

<p>their middle 50% ranges are different in the common data set than the ones that were provided on this thread....</p>

<p>Thank you for all the replys...
and Clendenenator...that's how I start out this question...browsed through their factors on collegeboard...
however, when I was reading Princeton Review today, Standardized test was the last one out of the very important factors (include GPA, EC, Personality, RC, Essay)...
P.s. I wasn't born in U.S., but a permanent resident.</p>

<p>does that affect your chances???</p>

<p>not being a citizen, but a PR??</p>