<p>I'm applying to Indiana and hoping to get into Kelley. My weighted GPA is a 3.67 and my SAT is 2040 (1390 CR/M) so I'm just a little below the GPA but well above the SAT. Anyone have experience on petitioning? Will I have a chance to get a direct admit?</p>
<p>Our son was in a very similar position as you two years ago. He petitioned, got DA into Kelley, and is now a very happy junior at Kelley. By all means petition, and get going on it right away, as it is like a rolling process. Good luck to you!</p>
<p>Thanks, sebmom. Anyone hear from Kelley yet?</p>
<p>Just checking again…I miss the DA GPA barely (3.67 vs. 3.7 required) but go well past the 1270 SAT. Preparing my petition…any advice on what I should do in my essays to increase my chances? I’m really impressed with Kelley and would love to attend.</p>
<p>Submitted my petition …hoping the fact that i’m just .03 below the GPA, but 120 points above the SAT will get me in. They said we hear by mid-February, but do they roll out the decisions or does everyone hear at the same time?</p>
<p>Just wondering why you would not go to IUPUI and get a direct admit and Honors distinction there right away?</p>
<p>Same degree. Better Internships. Same Placement.</p>
<p>There are a lot of Zealots on this site so do your own research. </p>
<p>Why slide in when you can go in on top?</p>
<p>Food for thought.</p>
<h2>Here is what I have found re internships at IUPUI Kelley and IUB Kelley.</h2>
<p>Kelley IUB
Internships were reported by 88% of the students in the projected Class of 2014 who were actively engaged in an internship search this year. An additional 146 sophomores and 11 freshmen reported internship employment during 2012-13.</p>
<p>Kelley students accepted internships in 34 states, the District of Columbia, and 14 countries worldwide. Most students (67%) accepted internships in the Midwest. The top states were Illinois (28%), Indiana (23%), and New York (10%). The most popular cities were Chicago, Indianapolis, and New York.</p>
<p>Top Intern Hiring Companies
PricewaterhouseCoopers (57 students)
Ernst & Young LLP (38 students)
Deloitte (34 students)
KPMG LLP (21 students)
Cummins Inc. (19)
Kohl’s Department Stores (19 students)
Target (18 students)
JPMorgan Chase & Co. (17 students)
Bank of America Merrill Lynch (16 students)
Altria Group, Inc. (11 students)
Macy’s Inc. (11 students)
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<p>IUPUI Kelley
For IUPUI Kelley, the most recent I could find was 2006-07, when the Kelley IUPUI report listed only five companies the top hiring companies in order, all of which had offices/factories/or company headquarters in Indianapolis. </p>
<p>Here are the five companies:
BKD, LLP – a regional accounting firm (offices mostly in small midwestern cities) with an Indy office
Simon Property Group – shopping mall developer headquartered in Indy
Rolls Royce – has a factory on Indy’s west side
EnviroForensics – a local environmental engineering firm specializing in cleaning contaminated sites
Emmis Communications – headquartered in Indy; owns TV and radio stations </p>
<h2>[AY</a> 06-07 Annual Report](<a href=“http://www.docstoc.com/docs/44465514/AY-06-07-Annual-Report]AY”>http://www.docstoc.com/docs/44465514/AY-06-07-Annual-Report)</h2>
<p>IUPUI Kelley should publish their recent internship placement stats, put them online, or make them easier to find online.</p>
<p>Goodkidsdad,</p>
<p>There is no question that IUPUI has a lot of local internship opportunities during the semester. That is great for someone in need of a good part time job in the related field. </p>
<p>My youngest boy was pretty laid back in HS. My wife and I had to push him to do this and that. But, he knows what he is doing now at IUB. He is actively engaging in club activities and case competition. He met quite a few very smart students. Both OP and your son appears to have pretty good SAT scores. If they want to be in a good position to get into public accounting, consulting, or investment banking, IUB is the way to go. Give him the chance and let him show you what he can do. Especially, the COA difference is small.</p>
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<p>Still wondering why you would not check out IUPUI Kelley? It is a great school. Just do your homework. Again there are some Bloomington zealots on this blog.</p>
<p>The 3.67 and 2040 I think is direct admit level there. Not quite Honors, but Kelley nonetheless. </p>
<p>Food for thought.</p>
<p>Do your homework!</p>
<p>I have checked it out because of your post thanks for that. From everything I’ve seen, there are far more opportunities with a Bloomington degree from Kelley .it just seems like the job and internship opportunities are better. But I also want the real college Big Ten experience that I’ll get in Bloomington. Seems like a big difference there.</p>
<p>Goodkidsdad, send your son to IUPUI if you think that it’s so much better and quit trying drive kids who WANT to be at IUB away. </p>
<p>Or you could let your son pick the school he wants to be at…but that seems too sensible to me. He may have bigger aspirations than you think</p>
<p>I never said Kelley Indianapolis was better. I just think it is viable option. In fact, IUB is a more restrictive school (almost elite) with an excellent reputation.</p>
<p>However, if you can be a direct admit, with smaller class size, intimate faculty interaction, with a little lesser reputation maybe it makes sense to check it out. Maybe IUPUI could be a great fit for some kids. I knew nothing about Kelley Indianapolis before this process. </p>
<p>My son is meeting with the Associate Dean at IUB Kelley and an Ambassador the first week of December. To your point, we will let him decide. We are NOT influencing his decision.</p>
<p>The point about Big Ten college experience is very well taken. One has that, the other does not. I’m glad you checked it out. You have made a solid decision.</p>
<p>Fit is everything!</p>
<p>“He may have bigger aspirations than you think”</p>
<p>Anyone not going to IUB has smaller aspirations. That make sense. I went to IUB and an elite east coast school for my MBA and yet I never thought of that. But I guess I knew this perspective existed.</p>
<p>Heck, he may choose IPFW for all I know. He got a full ride there and I know that folks going there, working full time, and going to school to better themselves, have huge aspirations.</p>
<p>I hope he senses this elitism demonstrated above on our visit and decides if he can flourish in that environment. He will make the right decision for him.</p>
<p>The quote above speaks volumes!</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>Not saying that anyone going to IUPUI, IUPFW, or even IUN (my home satellite campus) doesn’t have big aspirations. But if a kid wants to go into public accounting, consulting, IB, or entrepreneurship…IUB opens more doors than you probably would like to admit. Does IUPUI lock them forever? In some cases (IB, primarily)…maybe. Most cases no, but it is a heckuva lot easier to open doors when you already have the key.</p>
<p>I’m sorry.</p>
<p>Not sure I get your point.</p>
<p>My son could go either way. He was impressed with the faculty at IUPUI. If you looked it up, you would see that they ranked #1 for faculty in the MBA program (we met them) and # 9 for undergrad (met them too).</p>
<p>And he would have face to face contact with them every day.</p>
<p>Have you met the same at IUB?</p>
<p>Just know I was hired right out of the IUB Placement department. I Believe in IU, but I’m not a zealot like some others.</p>
<p>Thanks for your input.</p>
<p>Ace 550.</p>
<p>That is a Great point!</p>
<p>Kids are very adaptable and surprise us all of the time. Bloomington is great place to be.</p>
<p>Sounds like your son is similar to mine. </p>
<p>Tell him to “Kick some butt” for me.</p>
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<p>I know you are an advocate of everybody doing their own research, but please help us find your source for this statement. </p>
<p>Don’t underestimate the desire of company recruiters to recruit the most well-rounded students they can. They want young people with strong social and leadership skills-- it is not just about academics. I think Bloomington has way more opportunities than IUPUI to develop these skills. [A-Z</a> Big List: Indiana University Bloomington](<a href=“http://www.iub.edu/biglist/]A-Z”>http://www.iub.edu/biglist/) IUPUI Kelley has 1600 students, more than half of which are part-time students. IUB Kelley has 5600 full-time students. The entire freshman class of 7100+ students in Fall 2012 at IUB had only 34 part-time students. All IU freshmen live on campus. IUPUI, in contrast, describes itself as a “commuter institution serving largely working, first-generation, financial aid-eligible students in a state ranked 50th in the proportion of adults over age 25 with college degrees. . . . Moreover, most students are extensively engaged in pursuits other than college study; a majority work 30 or more hours a week, for example, and many have family and community commitments outside school.” </p>
<p>IUPUI’s self-description and the demographics of its ugrad business students does not sound like the kind of institution at which top companies would invest their recruitment resources. Of course, IUPUI Kelley’ placement office doesn’t publish an annual report with info on who hires from IUPUI Kelley, so there is no way to know what companies are recruiting IUPUI Kelley undergrads. Only four percent of IUPUI students are from out of state (compared to at least 35 percent for IUB, counting international students), so I don’t think an IUPUI Kelley ugrad degree would be nearly as useful as an IUB Kelley degree to an OSS students who wants to work, say, in the Northeastern US. 17% of last year’s IUB Kelley graduating class got jobs in the Northeastern and Atlantic states.</p>
<p>Here is a list of Kelley IUB student organizations.</p>
<pre><code>180 Degrees Consulting
AIESEC Indiana
ALPFA
Alpha Kappa Psi
Alternative Break Program
American Marketing Association
Ascend Indiana University Bloomington Chapter
Beta Alpha Psi Honorary Accounting Organization
Business Careers in Entertainment Club
Business Literature Team
Business Professionals of America
Chinese Business Association
Civic Leadership Development
Collegiate Entrepreneurs Association
Corporate Strategy Club
Delta Sigma Pi
Emerging Markets Club
Global Business Brigades
Global Microfinance Brigades
Global Sales Leadership Society
International Business Association
Investment Banking Club
Investment Banking Workshop
Kappa Eta Phi Professional Fraternity
Kelley Hospitality Industry Club
Kelley Korean Finance Seminar
Kelley Networking Club
Kelley Portfolio Management Club
Kelley Professionalism Organization
Kelley School of Business Case Competition Club
Kelley School of Business DECA
Kelley School of Business Toastmasters
Kelley Student Diversity Council
Kelley Student Government
Kelley Undergraduate Women’s Financial Association
Kelley Without Borders
Legal Studies Club
Mu Beta Lambda Minority Business Fraternity
National Association of Black Accountants
Net Impact: Sustainable Business Club
Phi Chi Theta Professional Business Fraternity
Real Estate Club at Indiana University
Student Accounting Society
Student Business Ambassadors
Student Career Forum
Supply Chain and Operations Management Association
Technology Management Club
The Ad Association
The Business Discussions Club
The Kelley Bstore Club
Trockman Microfinance Initiative
Undergraduate Finance Club
Undergraduate Investment Club
Undergraduate Leadership Initiative
Wall Street Journal Society
Women in Business
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<p>[Student</a> Organizations: Undergraduate Program : Kelley School of Business: Indiana University](<a href=“Undergraduate | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Indiana Kelley”>Undergraduate | Bachelor's Degree in Business | Indiana Kelley)</p>
<p>Goodkidsdad, I’m not even a Kelley grad, so it’s hard to call me a zealot. </p>
<p>In terms of face-to-face faculty contact, it doesn’t matter as much as you might think. I’ve never once heard a Kelley student complain “Man, I wish I had more face time with my professor.”</p>
<p>Bthomp and I are saying the same things: IUB has more recruitment opportunities for students than IUPUI does (based upon the little information we do have on IUPUI). It’s a very tough economy these days–I’d know, I graduated in 2011 into the heart of the recession–and students need to take advantage of every opportunity they have, no matter how small, to give themselves a leg up over other students. IUPUI is a great school, and if it’s what your student wants then it’s what they want…but if you’re choosing between IUB and IUPUI, it’s more than worth the few extra dollars to send your student to IUB. Things have changed since you graduated from IU, and the recruitment opportunities available at IUB could be the difference between your kid having a job secured fall of senior year or coming back to crash on your couch.</p>
<p>This makes sense. A good and reasoned perspective based on personal experience.</p>
<p>I agree that IUB has the best opportunity for kids who flourish in a system like that. My kid will need to make that determination. Also he really may veer toward a more “college” experience like IUB. Or Ball State Miller for that matter.</p>
<p>I still have the opinion that he could “max” out other opportunities (even IUPUI) if he wanted to and do just fine. There are actually a fair number of people who transfer out of IUB Kelley for a myriad of reasons. Stress, washout, fit etc.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your help and excellent sensibilities.</p>