<p>senior year, vince? oh crap, yeah... bust your butt to get the D out of your final transcript if you're a senior. it will not look good to any school.</p>
<p>the school i was talking about is in CA, so that 2+4 program you mentioned isn't familiar to me. we have a 6-year program, too, but the breakdown is 3+3; we spend a shorter time in pharm school than that 2+4 program i'm assuming.</p>
<p>any pre-pharmacy advantage programs should be competitive; fcuk, any pre-something advantage programs are competitive. i thought i wasn't going to get in because i was competing with people who probably have ap calculus and stuff (i didn't qualify because i had a high A in 1st sem, but a high B 2nd sem; i needed high As for both semesters to qualify for calc in my school).</p>
<p>i hope you get those grades up. demand exceeds space, unfortunately, and you want to showcase the highest grades you can get. if the schools you mentioned are private schools, you may want to check if they do unweighted or weighted gpa. i'm assuming your IB courses are the same as AP or Honors courses, yes? UoP, at least, only takes unweighted gpas. so i'm trying to get straight A's this semester because my 3 honors points will count for crap.</p>
<p>good luck! and good for you on that job. i'll be looking for a register position at least in a pharmacy nearby so i can get some experience. hahaha</p>
<p>i know a school in washington also has a pharmacy advantage program, though i'm not sure which. </p>
<p>i'm actually kinda baffled by how they chose pre-pharm. i had a friend who was accepted into the 3+3 program with a scholarship, but one with even higher stats who was accepted in the school, but not the major. maybe it depends on extra-curriculars...? i'm not sure.</p>
<p>truthfully, i was pretty surprised i got in because they made it sound soooo hard to get in (~25% acceptance rate).</p>
<p>Essays, too, you know? :) I'm glad I took my essays to the ass. The essay is the only way colleges will know who the heck you are.</p>
<p>Have you decided to go to UoP? I won't make it to their Admit Day because it's the same day as UCSD's and I got in there, too. So I'll pay the campus a visit during my spring break and then leave again on April 8 or 9 for UCSD.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for the advice j project!! you've totally cleared up my college path for me! Instead of spending HECKA HECKA money at uop fulfilling my pre- Pharmacy School requirements, i might as well just fulfill those requirements at another cheaper school eh?</p>
<p>as for you...CONGRATS on being accepted to ucsd AND uop!! you must be one heck of a smart person...i've heard that ucsd is REALLY REALLY NICE!! but i also heard that it's a partie school....that means that you'll be VERY easily distracted, especially with all the beaches and stuff ya knoe...<em>winks</em>...and uop is like...in a REALLY GHETTO city...stockton...but the school's just fine...but yea...you should just go visit both schools and see which one you like more...cuz then these are all my opinions and you might think differently...</p>
<p>and as for me...i'm thinking of just going to a random state school and then going to any Pharmacy School EXCEPT for uop...because i'm SOOOOO MAD that they didn't put me in their pre-pharm program...i'm gonna show THEM whut i can do at any other school...hmmmmmph!! THEY'RE SO GONNA REGRET NOT ACCEPTING ME!!!</p>
<p>well GOOD LUCK on your whole journey to college-deciding or college-making or whutever you call it...haha...and tell me how it turns out too!! i wanna knoe which one you end up choosing cuz this is gonna be a pretty interesting choice...</p>
<p>ooooh i got into SD too, jproject. congrats!! </p>
<p>maybe it was my essay.. it was about becoming a leader. it wasn't great, but the content was there, i guess.
i haven't decided whether or not i'll go to UOP. i'm not sure if i want to be a pharmacist... it's mainly my mom that's pushing for it.. and UOP's other programs aren't that good.. so if i drop out of prepharm, what will i have to fall back on? that's why i'm waiting for USC..</p>
<p>i thought UOP's preview days are march 30/april 1 and SD's was april 9..
(or is that only the honors preview day for UOP..?) i don't know if i'll go to SD's, however, cuz it's after my spring break. we'll seeee i guess.</p>
<p>This is probably going to kick me in the butt later, but I decided to go to UoP's Profile Day on April 9. It's the same day as UCSD's, but I guess we're just going to visit UCSD during spring break or something.</p>
<p>I don't knooow... I'm leaning more towards UoP, but for some reason, I'm still itching to go to UCSD. I'm re-evaluating my goals and I'm wondering if Pharmacy's really right for me. Because I don't want to go to UoP and then say "OH! Well, I've decided to major in underwater basketweaving instead." As Becky (thanks for the reply! :) ) reiterated for me, I do not want my parents to pay hecka money if I'm just going to flake out on the program anyways. I get science, but I work at it; it's the challenge that piques my interest and the more I learn, the more things become connected and make sense.</p>
<p>I'm going to visit UCSD's campus at least once just to make me happy. That in itself is a conflict, too. Do I really want to see what I'm going to miss out on if I go to UoP? Or will it steer me away from UoP? People say stuff about social life and crap; that's important, too, but it's not my #1 priority. I'm going to college because I want to study and be rich.</p>
<p>wow.. i have the same dilemma as you. science IS extremely interesting to me, but it doesn't come as easily as english or history does. </p>
<p>however, i am leaning more towards UCSD. considering that a college student changes his/her major about 5x before graduating, i doubt that i would want to major in chem, which i have to study 2x as hard as everyone else to do well. sigh. but we'll have to see, i guess. </p>
<p>oooh, gosh... Hahaha! see, the thing is it's the MOM. she's leaning towards UoP because even though I'll be away from home, I'll still be closer to her. how can i tell her that it's the environment of the campus that's important to me, too? i just applied to UoP because of their pre-pharm program and i haven't even seen it yet. i don't know if i'll be happy there...</p>
<p>but i've been to san diego and the energy that the place gives me is so rejuvenating. i haven't been to UCSD yet, but as long as it's close to san diego, i'm great. they're creating a program, too, sw33tie, for chem majors that want to go into pharmacy so it'll be great.</p>
<p>it's the parent factor. i don't know why it seems like she gets so mad when i talk to her about it and she seems so "well, if you've made your decision, then etc. etc."</p>
<p>i'm getting depressed. getting into colleges isn't such a good thing after all. i wish i hadn't discovered uop's programs.</p>
<p>haha yes.. it's my mother as well. she is the one that wants me to become a pharmacist and also stay close to home (i'm in the bay area). though it is important to please your parents, as they are paying for your tuition and such, it's definitely much more important that you put yourself first. it is you that has to do study that major, go to that school for 4 (or 6) years, and ultimately have that career. i learned this when my parents forced my older brother to go to berkeley. he wanted to go to irvine but they made him go to berkeley bc it was #1. he's graduating this year, and i don't think he's had a very good time there. </p>
<p>and i've heard UCSD is also making a 7-yr program for their brand-new pharm school. it's basically 8 years though, bc it starts soph year--so it's the same as graduating w/ a BA and going to pharm school, right? not only that, but it'll be EXTREMELY competitive because each class only has 60 students. scary.</p>
<p>One of my friends from UC Irvine just graduated from UCSF's Pharm.D. program last year. She finished #1 in her class. UCSF is the best pharmacy school in the country, and she was the best UCSF had to offer last year. So she was the best new pharmacist in the country this year. So by that logic, you should go to UCI.</p>
<p>the dilemma's been resolved, for now. i don't know what my decision's going to be, but i'll be visiting both campuses. and erring on the safe side, i just decided to secure my spot at UoP.</p>
<p>... but i'm sure as heck looking forward to Admit Day. :D :D </p>
<p>aaaaahhh, sw33tie! you're freaking like... 2 hours from where i live!? what on earth is this collegeconfidential site really for?! meeting neighbors, though not next-door neighbors! i thought this was a college support site! LoL!</p>
<p>thanks for the advice alicantekid. i was looking @ that option, too, but we'll see. it's basically whatever goes right now and i'm hoping that it'll turn out for the best... as in, my parents will be fine with UCSD. hhaha</p>
<p>well..i'm going to u. pitt this fall and will be a pre-pharm student...well..i applied very early and i kinda changed my mind..i don't think i want to be a pharmacist cuz i'm taking ap chem and it's very challenging..well...any advice?
is it true that if you study a little bit more, then you can just become a doc..?like um...regular doc??
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<p>Not a little bit...alot. I remember med students always looking like they were exhausted. Tough schedule. Pharmacy and dental students worked alot, but played alot, too. Some pharmacists do actually go to med school and probably do quite well with an undergraduate degree that prepares them well in anatomy and physiology. You could get your RPh and apply to med school, too!</p>
<p>Pharm is heavy on chem, but it is not too difficult. If you can get through organic well, you will have no trouble with med chem, etc. Challanging...yes. Impossible...no. Keep in mind that chem is only ONE of your courses each year. Check the curriculum to see how the rest of it looks to you. Also, bear in mind that the average dispensing pharmacist will not be asked to formulate any new drug molecules! If you think you would like to be a pharmacist, don't let a few chem classes dissuede you.</p>
<p>I agree w/the "if you think you would like to be a pharmacist, don't let a few chem classes dissuede you". However you must still get good grades to be admitted to pharmacy school. Pharmacy school does have lots of chemistry so it doesn't stop once you get in. I don't know if schools still exist for those who "just want to dispense". You probably won't be "formulating new drug molecues" but you probably will be able to make diagrams of them and be able to explain what the drug probably does. </p>
<p>I quit saying "pharmacy is heavy in chem but not too difficult" after running into several people who never became pharmacists because chemistry was too difficult. Once I said this to a math teacher my son had. ooops red face when the teacher said he went into teaching because he just couldn't get chem. v. nice man very good teacher.</p>
<p>If you want to go to med school, go to med school. Why spend at least 4 yrs of time and tuition before doing what you want to do.</p>
<p>Some of my classmates actually did go on to formulate new drugs, do pharmaceutical research, and go to med school. Most, however, went into the job market which is dominated by dispensing (hospital or retail...some did open their own businesses, though). Yes, all of the students must learn A&P, med chem, mathematical models for pharmacokinetics, etc. They all do internships in clinical settings. But, unless they go into industry or obtain a clinical pharmacist position, I think the jobs are mostly dispensing. You still need to know alot about how drugs work and how they affect disease states, you still need to evaluate patients' drug regimens, to provide drug info to physicians, counsel patients, be able to manage technicians, etc. But detailed chemistry...not really. Given that you have the school knowledge, the skills needed to be a good pharmacist are largely obtained on the job. </p>
<p>I do agree with lamom...you don't have to be a chemistry genius, but you will have alot of it, and you may have a difficult time if you hate chemistry.</p>