<p>Say what, Bizman?</p>
<p>Bizman, if you think that agnostics think that Howard Stern created the universe and Eddy Murphy created life, then you have a problem.</p>
<p>You fruitcakes aren't spreading God's kingdom on Earth with your *****y bickering! lol. But neither am I by calling you fruitcakes</p>
<p>DRab - i dont think comparing a book someone likes to a college (not just your location, like you said) someone attends is a fair comparison. book vs. college? come on. im not gonna agrue it though; whats the point. still, i cannot fathom how someone (especially someone who attends a school of berkeley's caliber) would not know christianity is a major major world religion (and i dont wanna hear how you DO/DID know this, because regardless, your posts seem to show otherwise). and what is this about: "I just dont have that superior Holden Caulfield intellect you sport". i like the sarcasm, but really, is hardly ANY intellect needed to know the world is teeming with christians? quick question DRab. in all seriousness, would you describe yourself as extraordinarily liberal? this really honestly isnt an attack on liberals or anything they stand for, i just really am curious.</p>
<p>No, Holden, I would not. I am actually a moderate, although at times apathetic, at times ambivalent, at times confused, and often perplexed by stupidity, dogmatism, and other things. My dad is a moderate Republican, and my mother a moderate Democrat. Again, Berkeley Berkeley Berkeley. I agree that my tie to my school is stronger than you to your user name, but I'm more than just the school I attend, and again, don't need you to bring up how great my school is in every post. But feel free to do it again. I haven't even been on the campus for half a year, but clearly my life and being is U C BERKELEY. Perhaps from me, you will learn that even those schools known as the best house idiots such as myself. Of course I know that Christianity is a major world religion, one I've studied multiple times in various settings, in high school, my weekend Jewish school, talking with my friends, who are predominantly Christian, and in my own reading. I appreciate your liking my sarcasm. You are, of course, my audience, and I aim to please, at least sometimes. Sadly, I think there are people who don't know about major things in the world, be they religions or other historic events. Yes, even at schools like Berkeley!!!</p>
<p>Philosophy is a requirement at my HS, and I'm glad it is. It's now going to be my major. </p>
<p>I find political parties to be useless. In fact, they are worse than useless-- they create massive problems between people. The real problem with political parties is that they are way too general and make people choose a side for usually only one or two ideas, while disagreeing with others. Why do you think that the Hispanic vote is majoritarily for Republicans when they would benefit more economically by voting democrat? (Answer: religion, of course.) I find myself to be at about 60% Liberal and 40% Conservative. How do a choose a party, then? There need to be more parties which encompass less and that are of equal power. I can dream, right? I'm just saying it would make more sense. </p>
<p>I know I'm off-topic, but just to put that out there. It's pathetic that if we want our vote to count we have to choose one of two parties.</p>
<p>I agree, jackbauer. The whole two party system we have in america is pathetic and worthless - and very polarizing. And I'm glad you chose philosophy - it's a great major.</p>
<p>slipperyeel, you never said why it is the purpose of existence to "spread God's kingdom on earth" (or even what that means for that matter). If you want to really impress us, you should delve into the philosophical questions of why a perfect being would even need to create something.</p>
<p>DRab - i c. thanks. (ha, and trust me, i am far from having a deep love for your school, i come from stanford people myself :P ...no denying its a good school though)</p>
<p>JBPH - i couldnt agree more. however, as unfortunate as it may be, unless one is a complete idealist (i hope your not, plato sucks, heh heh), political parties are something that must be noted and dealt with. this is off topic too, but what are your plans following the undergrad. degree in philosophy? law school, grad school, something different all together? just wondering because it is a prospective major i consider from time to time (and this thread is getting kinda old and whatnot as well so...).</p>
<p>ahhhh i couldnt resist. "If you want to really impress us, you should delve into the philosophical questions of why a perfect being would even need to create something." i think "need" is not the proper word here. perhaps "want" or something like that. you cannot assume it was there was a "need". semantics, i know i know, but it really could make a difference. but i would enjoy reading responses the question regardless. so:</p>
<p>"If you want to really impress us, you should delve into the philosophical questions of why a perfect being would even want to create something."</p>
<p>My friend and I had a thorough discussion of our existence:</p>
<p>I'll summarize what we concluded:</p>
<p>Note: All men/women are born to have sex and reproduce.</p>
<p>Considering this, we want to maximize our pleasure by marrying someone who is the most attractive to us (combination of looks, smarts, other individual factors). Now, to do this, we go to school. The reason we want to go to school is so that we can maximize our education. By achieving a good education, we increase our chances of having a profitable future. The more profitable our future, the better our chances of having a stable mate that is attractive.</p>
<p>To prove this point, we randomly sampled a couple of our friends and asked them the following question:</p>
<p>If you could be a bum and have the hottest lady/guy in the world, would you do it?</p>
<p>If you knew that your hard work in school was going to be in vain and that you would never marry any attractive person, would you keep attending school?</p>
<p>Question 1: Unanimous Yes.
Question 2: Unanimous No (except for one kid who really loves to learn i guess)</p>
<p>Sooo there ya go.</p>
<p>haha ok Holden, fair enough. Need or want - I don't think it matters for this question. What are your thoughts here?</p>
<p>Not to worry, Holden, I didn't think you had a deep love for my school. Heck, I don't. It's a great place, though, and offers opportunities I wouldn't get anywhere else. Stanford also has its perks, and has a very interesting and successful history which is admirable, from a backwater California bastion for the rich kids to a well respected institution. I have my ties, and find humor in rivalries, although I think Stanford is overrated in ways (as is Berkeley, as is Harvard). Anyway.</p>
<p>You've mentioned on several threads about idealism and realism and Plato and Aristotle. Because so many of us have different notions or no notion of what idealism, realism, or whateverism is, why don't you explain what you mean about idealism sucking? Also, you could say why you think Plato fits in this category of idealist.</p>
<p>robotFOOD, your sample is skewed. Perhaps if you ask people who don't go to school, or aren't from America, or many other kinds of humans, you'll get different answers to your question. Interesting hypothesis, though. There are a lot of assumptions in the logic . . .</p>
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<p>From that conclusion, you have officially proved yourself to be a moron.</p>
<p>And by resorting to name-calling, you have proved that you're the same immature jerk who got kicked off for insulting a lady.</p>
<p>megalomaniac, you should leave CC and reproduce. Isnt that your purpose of living :D ?</p>
<p>Sure. From an evolutionary point of view. But I much prefer sticking around and talking to you:p</p>
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<p>I dont believe in the theory of evolution.</p>
<p>robot, there are other objectives in life for different people. For instance, I would like to see poverty wiped out in the world before the end of my life. However, I live in Indonesia, so I suppose my answer would be quite different.</p>
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<p>So are you one of those rare non-Muslim people in Indonesia? Did you ever express your views in public?</p>
<p>Business_Man, not believing in something does not mean it is not true. For instance, I do not believe in the existence of people as stupid as you. Yet, you clearly exist. See the problem?</p>