<p>haha i love nerdy pickup lines. i wrote about them in one of my college essays, actually..i always force my scientifically-minded friends to explain them to me..</p>
<p>i'm sure you've all heard it before, but my favorite one from high school calculus was, "girl, i wish i was your derivative, so i could lie tangent to your curves"</p>
<p>i really dont get the point of this stuff -- and i cant believe someone would be called a pick-up artist...all seems sort of lame to me...cant you just go talk to a girl without reading up on it first?</p>
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<p>Obviously not. Men who study pick up artistry are usually very insecure and inexperienced. All the stuff David DeAngelo, Neil Strauss, Mystery, etc. teach, works, if you practice practice practice. They basic of all of it is just to convey confidence and power but in a way that's indirect, playful and attractive.</p>
<p>I think PUA is interesting, I first learned about it from VH1 when they had Mystery doing that PUA show. I see it as a melding of 'How to be Charismatic' and 'How to get Girls'. I never read the Game but I might give it a read. At worst, I'll have wasted my time, at best I'll have tons of women hanging all over me, but I really expect just to be interested in the various ways/things I've done in the past or seen others do and to be able to say "Oh, yea, that's right, huh, never really picked up on that before". I think it gets a negative image from women thinking of guys using it to nail women and women being offended that they'd fall for it. For guys, I think it offends because they think they have to change who they are, brings up the competition, isn't natural, or somehow demeans all the trouble/work they've put into getting some. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>I just think you must be yourself. Make her smile, that's the way. The conversation will flow in, if your are confident. I think u succeed in dating scenes when you have the ability to laugh at yourself - I mean if someone rejects your advances or declines for date, just take it lightly.</p>
<p>not trying to be chauvinistic, but 'win like a man, lose like a man'. It's my fav quote.</p>
<p>The experts use the same things. David DeAngelo focuses on 'Cocky and Funny' part. He is just trying to stress on 'sense of humor'.</p>
<p>I tried reading that David DeAngelo thing, and truthfully it was pretty lame. He was using quotes I could have thought of in 3rd grade. I think its good for people with no sense of personality though, seriously people.. just have some confidence and a sense of humor and hold a conversation. It doesn't require that much thought to just be a fun person to be around.</p>
<p>I'm not sure why David Deangelo gets clients. His cocky funny is already basically done by a quarter of the population unwittingly, including me. </p>
<p>"Lesson 1: Be cocky, and be funny. Hmph, I guess that concludes our seminar." </p>
<p>What else can you really do? Have your students memorize a bunch of cocky funny jokes? Cocky funny seems more like see and react to me, more contingent on the underlying individual than whatever he or she can pick up. DD probably just instills them with confidence. Cocky funny doesn't even really seem like pickup technique to me. </p>
<p>I can understand how Mystery, Ross Jeffries, and Real Social Dynamics (Tyler Durden, Papa) get clients though. Routines, tactics, and magic tricks from Mystery, Neuro-linguistic programming from Jeffries, and whatever Real Social Dynamics does. Maybe plowing and micromanaging?</p>
<p>yeah i really don't think you can teach people to be humorous..it should come naturally..</p>
<p>also if you're meeting the right girl, you'll just click and have the same sense of humor already (without having to memorize lines or laugh at things you don't actually find funny). that's a huge priority for me with guys, and i'm sure most other girls would agree. if we don't naturally find the same things funny, it's not gonna work out.</p>
<p>Well that's the thing. You wouldn't realize that they're memorized lines. I just have no idea how DD's cocky funny would cover all the bases. Cocky funny is like a zone defense, read and react, and the other PUA stuff is like a blitz.</p>
<p>We know the cube test, the C vs. U shaped teeth, and the best friends test now and we'd recognized them as canned lines. But the PUA community has definitely come up with new stuff since then.</p>
<p>but my point was that if you're with the right person, you're not going to NEED memorized lines.</p>
<p>now, if the objective is just to find someone to go home with for a night, i guess it could be successful. but if you're looking for something more serious, you're not going to be able to start a relationship with nothing more than an act.</p>
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<p>I think Style and a few other PUA's caught on that their techniques were an enabler for them to get to know girls that otherwise wouldn't even realize what a presumably awesome person they are. A guy and a girl could be the right person for each other, but the girl might not realize it. </p>
<p>For many of the PUAs, their endgame was a relationship. When Style got a girlfriend, the reaction was envy and jealousy from the community. Mystery had a term--"fool's mate"--referring to a girl that engages in sexual activity prior to a decent amount of interaction (on average seven hours, he said).</p>
<p>gotta love the chess reference by Mystery. Goes to show just how cool these guys really are. although in all honesty it is frustrating to know that I am unequivocally smarter and better-looking than the vast majority of these PUAs and yet will never have the "game" that they do.</p>
<p>My sentiments exactly. The Game is an awesome book. The tale is almost too good to be nonfiction; it plays out like a fictional novel. I'd doubt the story entirely if it wasn't written by an already-established journalist.</p>