Pitt Honors vs Drexel Honors

<p>Hey everyone,</p>

<p>Thanks for taking the time to help me out. It's time to start thinking about my future college, but I'm stuck. I got accepted to Pitt Honors and Drexel Honors, but I am unsure of where to commit. I plan to enter college on a pre med path and although Pitt seems like the obvious choice, here are my thoughts/ the comparison of both schools. What would you guys do if you were in my position?</p>

<p>Cost=relatively the same at each school w/ scholarship and aid so that's not a big factor. Here's the breakdown-</p>

<p>Pitt Honors Advantages:
Close to home (I live in the area)
Can go to a school known for its medical school and its solid overall programs
The Honors College (basically its just a nicer dorm called Sutherland) is a good program to be in</p>

<p>Disadvantages:
I'm not really in love with the campus, it's just ehh to me. I could get used to it, but I'm not ecstatic about it.</p>

<p>Drexel Honors Advantages:
Accepted to Honors Program(which seems like it has benefits, e.g priority registration)
Accepted to Star Scholars Program (between summer of freshman and sophomore year, I get a $4000 stipend to do research at Drexel which is nice on a med school resume)-do you think this is major?
The campus and facilities seem new and well kept
I get to explore new places- Pittsburgh is getting a bit old
A Co-op in my junior year if I'd like to get some work experience</p>

<p>Disadvantages:
Some people tell me it's not that great of a school overall and it's pre med programs is not ranked as high as Pitt's- i know it's growing in prestige but people have told me it'd be stupid to pass up pitt honors.</p>

<p>I know it's a lot, but I would really appreciate some input from others. </p>

<p>Thanks so much in advance guys! It's a hard decision, and I wrote a lot but I think it's important to listen to others' opinions.</p>

<p>Regardless of honors colleges, the you’ll have a lot more quality research opportunities at Pitt. And most of Pitt’s labs are on the undergrad campus. For the most part, Drexel’s labs aren’t on the undergrad campus in West Philly. They are across the Schuykill River towards downtown…not nearly as conveniently located. That means running in and out of a lab to check on experiments between classes or social activities is likely going to be more difficult.</p>

<p>As far as campuses, I certainly understand if you want somewhere new to explore, and both campuses are urban, but suggesting Drexel’s campus is nicer than Pitt’s pretty much makes me wonder if you have even seen Drexel’s. I lived in West Philly and Oakland, and I think even the the most Drexel-biased person wouldn’t think Drexel has nicer facilities or campus. Beyond subjective aesthetics, Drexel certainly doesn’t have better medical and research facilities. However, preferring Philly to Pittsburgh is a different argument. To each his/her own, and as you mentioned, you might just want to explore somewhere different.</p>

<p>Regarding Drexel’s Star Scholar program, an intramural research stipend awarded before you even start school isn’t going to impress people enough to get you into med school, but it is nice to have, that is for sure. Pitt’s honors college has a [variety</a> of research fellowship programs](<a href=“http://www.honorscollege.pitt.edu/programs/fall-and-spring-research-opportunities]variety”>http://www.honorscollege.pitt.edu/programs/fall-and-spring-research-opportunities) that you can apply for once at Pitt as well. Of course there is no guarantee you’ll receive those, you’ll certainly be able to get into doing research as early as you want at Pitt. </p>

<p>Now your actual research experience will help get you in to med school, particularly if you are able to get some sort of authorship in a publication out of it. And again, you are likely to have a better research experience at Pitt on multiple levels as it is seriously one of the best in the nation for health/biosciences: #5 in NIH funding (that’s the gold standard right there), top 15 medical school, top 15 medical center, and top 20 in nearly every health-related program. The atmosphere and experiences in these fields, even as an undergrad, and especially in the honors college, will be significantly better at Pitt. Bottom line is that Pitt is a flat out better school across the board, particularly in medical and bio/health sciences.</p>

<p>Regarding Pitt honors, someone did a statistical comparison of honors colleges a while back (see [here](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1041074-best-honor-programs-public-universities-updated-12.html]here[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1041074-best-honor-programs-public-universities-updated-12.html)</a>) Pitt’s college favorably stacked up against others.</p>

<p>Co-op experiences for pre-med or biosciences aren’t really meaningful at all. You need hospital volunteering hours, physician shadowing, and research experience, along with kick-ass recommendation letters from faculty you have a real relationship with (probably the ones you are shadowing or working in their labs). The research experience will be better if you can settle into a lab you like and do long term project (stretching over multiple semesters/years) in order to get enough research done to present your project at national/local meetings and/or get some sort of authorship. Doing a summer co-op at a company where you may or may not get real lab experience isn’t going to get you that experience and could disrupt your research. And really, in health or biosciences, you’re likely going to end up at med school, some other clinical professional grad school or a research PhD graduate program. Few people go into industry with a BS in bioscience fields, and if they do, they reach a ceiling very quickly and end up in graduate or professional schools, even if they end up back in industry eventually.</p>

<p>Now, that said, Drexel, nor most any other university, isn’t going to keep you from achieving your goals. So if you aren’t going to be happy at Pitt, perhaps you shouldn’t go there.</p>

<p>Thank you so much for your detailed response, getting rid of the uncertainty that I had for a while. I’ve realized that my willingness to get away from home has made me oversight the wonderful opportunites available at a college so close to me. The research opportunities seem to be among the best in the country at Pitt, and though drexel is still a great university, the co-op and star programs don’t compare to the potential for valuable and long term research that I could participate in at Pitt and are basically required for admission to medical schools. The only reason I liked drexel’s campus was that it wasn’t Pittsburgh, and though I still like Pitt’s campus( I made it sound much too horrible in my description), I think there will be opportunities for me to travel away in the future, possibily for graduate school. </p>

<p>This takes Drexel farther out of the picture for me, but I want to know if you have an opinion on Case Western or Northeastern as well? I got into those schools as well for pre med, but how would these scholls stack up against Pitt? I visited Case, and it seemed to be a beautiful campus with lots of opportunities with the Cleaveland Clinic and other hospital, but I know little to nothing about Northeastern. Case Western gave me generous aid and a scholarship, which would make the expected cost approxiately the same as that at Pitt. Northeastern seems a bit on the expensive side though. What are your thoughts of these universities? Thanks so much for your insightful input, for this college decision process has been stressful lately.</p>

<p>Case is a great school. I think you can’t go wrong there or at Pitt. They’re both on a different level than Drexel in opportunities and academics. </p>

<p>I’m not particularly familiar with Northeastern. My impression is that you won’t have the opportunities there that you will at Pitt. It generally isn’t that well known.</p>

<p>Just considering pre-med/bioscience programs and opportunities, I’d focus on Case and Pitt.</p>